seventh-moon Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 the arm joint on my hikaru 1/48 1s is broken. will hlj replace the part? or will they only replace model kit parts? money and time are no objects as long as it dosent cost more than the toy and dosent take a year to get here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 You are sooooooo screwed. Why not fixing the part? Cant be done at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventh-moon Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 its literly cracked in half, ive already done surgery to remove the remander part, upon closer inspection it looks like i might need a whole new right arm. im lamen when it comes to reparing or even model building, if there is a way that it can be glued or repared than sombody please tell me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stamen0083 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Perhaps images will help? I'm no good when it comes to word descriptions... I might want some 3 images to fully describe your situations. That amounts to some 3000 words. Take your pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventh-moon Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 ill try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Yeah. Post some pictures, otherwise... no way I can help at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal_D Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Yeah. Post some pictures, otherwise... no way I can help at all. you can't help at all anyway sebastian. lol j/k! these toys are kind of fragile, but never heard of people breaking the arm joint. yah, pictures might really help, most everybody on MW is willing to help you out when they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 HLJ was definitely willing to be the middleman when my first 1/48 VF-1A arrived without any hands. All I did was e-mail their customer service and refer to the parts as labelled in the instruction booklet for the Valkyrie. It took about 6 weeks all total. They would probably charge for replacing a broken part if it was not broken when you received it. If you can't fix it yourself, it couldn't hurt to drop them a line and ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventh-moon Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 (edited) the broke area is circled in red. do you need pictures of the arm to? Edited February 18, 2004 by seventh-moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 I am in office right now, I will chek my 1/48s as soon I return home... maybe I can come up with an idea to solve your problem... But cosidering some "coments" I wont be able to help at all I guess I will have to kick some asian ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechamaniac Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Every time I transformed my 1/48 Hikaru 1A, I thought that tab was going to snap, it is an unfortunate weak point, and I'm surprised that more of these haven't broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventh-moon Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 ill try to find a glue that might work, but if i dont im going to have to get on the horn with hlj. i cant afford a new one. the cause of this was a very very nasty fall in mid transformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal_D Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 wow, that piece definitely looks tough to fix. my suggestion is........wait till Sebastian goes home to take a look at his valk, and tell you the same thing. but seriously, doesn't look like any type of simple glueing will solve that problem. you may be able to reinforce the two broken halves with cut piece of styrene. but if you do a lot of transformation, I don't think it'll hold up too well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 wow, that piece definitely looks tough to fix.my suggestion is........wait till Sebastian goes home to take a look at his valk, and tell you the same thing. That´s It! I will take my revenge as soon as you get off the plane! Ho yes! I am a very Dangerous and Evil person! Muaaa Ha Ha. And the BEST part is I just checked my 1/48 and I have a solution! Buy a new one. LOL You cant use super glue on it and also cant insert metal pegs because drilling the parts of the ABS will weak the plastic and it will end broked again. I though maybe that was a possible way, but no the piece is just to flimsy. Guess you will need to make a new piece... sorry, but D was right as usual, I cant help at all. But on the other hand to sculp a new spare part from ABS is really easy, you should try it. I had fixed a lot of toys in that way. You will need a dremel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Dibs on the 1S head!!! j/k Hopefully you can get someone to swap it out for you, or maybe you can be the helpful one and sell it off for parts. Just be glad it's not a Low-Viz. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventh-moon Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 first im going to try hlj, as i said before money and time are no object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neova Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 (edited) HJL should have been able to take care of that if you ship the Valk back to them since it was new . They can replace it for you through Yamato. I think you have to cover at least one way or both ways shipping costs though. Good luck! Edited February 18, 2004 by Neova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventh-moon Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 i didnt buy it with hlj. is that a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Hmm....first time ever I've seen that part break on a 1/48, strange! Need to check is it actually screwed or rivited in place as well. If it's rivited in place, you'd probably need to get a whole replacement backplate assembly. I wish people would stop calling the 1/48s fragile though. IMO, they are pretty tough toys, with the exception of part # BP8, which even I admit is too fragile and needs to be handled with care. The only parts I've ever heard of breaking on a 1/48 are several backpack hinges (part #BP8), a couple of head lasers, but that's usually through carelessness and I think on one or two occasions the canopy hinge. But considering the total quantities produced, there has been little to complain about generally. Still, it does suck though when something does break on such an expensive toy. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNor Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 (edited) if you're going to glue it: go to an autoparts store, get JB weld, it takes a night to dry but when it does its hard like a rock and strong as all hell. **edit** practice on something first, its a little difficult to use, but its good stuff. good luck. Edited February 18, 2004 by KingNor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFrenchOne Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 I am quite amazed that so many guys broke parts of their 1/48 ( and so sorry too). I have carefully transformed each of mine a couple of times (all the 7), put and remove super parts and i still have no broken parts to report. I take my time to transform a 1/48 and never force any part during transformation IMO it is the only way to transform such a toy. The 1st time i transform 1S from Fighter to Battroid it took me something like 20 minutes to proceed carefully through each steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soze Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Don't know if it's possible, but can you sand down the flat underside a bit... so it's a little thinner and put the pieces together and use a thin strip of metal for a brace? Like a thin strip of metal on the underside where you would have sanded it down, only you are using it to hold the broken piece together (with glue of course). Basically putting the 2 pieces together onto a thin metal plate and gluing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neova Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 i didnt buy it with hlj. is that a problem? I would say you should talk to whoever you purchased the Valkyrie from and see if they can help you out. I don't know about HJL's parts service but it not easy (nearly impossible) to get parts alone. Its much easier to replace the whole Valkyrie though. Good luck! KingNor's suggestion is great. JB weld is REALLY tough. Welded a lock to a metal door with 2 tap rivets and that thing is rock solid, even with hard use. Without the JB weld, the lock would eventually wear the rivets loose and need replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Göönk Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 (edited) If my valk break at that point, i will build a new piece out of aluminium sheet. I'm sure it's possible to do something correct and easily. If you look closely, you can see it can be thicker than the 2 mm near the arm hinge which allows the holes for the axe of the arm. Where can you fond aluminium? I don't know. try to look around your house for material. Then build. Then nobody will notice that it's custom made because it's under the valk in fighter/gerwalk mod or inside in battroid mod. [EDIT] LOL I found a piece of aluminium that would be PERFECT for this surgery in less than 2 minutes. The holes for the hinge may be difficulte to drill, i admit, but with patience and good tools it's possible. Edited February 18, 2004 by Göönk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soze Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Someone go recast every part in die-cast metal, and make an updated chunky monkey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbo Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 JB Weld sounds like a good try. You also may wanna try Metalset A-4 According to the description, this is the strongest epoxy they have found for reel seats, gimbals, butts and ferrules Over 3000 psi tensile strength!!!! Comes in tubes for easy mixing. Sets in 1-2 hours. a 6oz tube cost you $ 9.50. http://www.mudhole.com/docs/epoxy.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Göönk Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 the problem is not the strength of the epoxy, but will it glue on the white plastic of the toy i don't believe in glue at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
柿崎速雄 Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 (edited) hope this can help you : no too difficult method but must buy some tools 1.)buy modeling drill , which can use a very little drill head for thin prastic broad 2.)buy some thin metal rod the most difficult part is drill the very accurate grip for each little hold between the two parts I suggest use a ruler and ink pen to mark the grip first than drill it carefully than use the metal rod to join the two parts don't forget to use the super glue ~ here is some demo pic for you I think this method is suitable for your case (and sorry for my poor english ) Edited February 20, 2004 by 柿崎速雄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
柿崎速雄 Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 (edited) 2. ( I think you can drill 3 to 4 hole for each parts to get a stronger bonding) Edited February 20, 2004 by 柿崎速雄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
柿崎速雄 Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 3. JOIN them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stamen0083 Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 It looks like you might be crap out of luck if you have never modded anything in your life, but if you have used hand tools, you will be able to get through this. Drill and pin. It looks like that part leaves just about enough room for a pin. Drill and pin it, then use superglue to join the pieces. Just make sure they match. If you have a hobby shop nearby, you can also buy some aluminum sheet, which you can cut and shape into that part. All you have to do is drill holes for the screw to go into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newca Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 sorry to hear that just before I got my first 1/48 Yammie... must to handle with 200% careness... I've got a Tamiya 1/100 A-7 Corsair II without canopy from HLJ last week, after wrote to them, HLJ staff has contacted Tamiya for me, the parts is said to be on its way to me today, take no charge, nice service! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf-24 Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 (edited) Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Do what you said and what everyone has suggested, call HLJ or e-mail them and explain the situation. If you e-mail them, show them the pictures. They seem to be very understanding and hopefully you'll get a replacement of the whole craft. If that doesn't work, then move on to the next step which is to try to repair it yourself with the suggestions that everyone has offered you or purchase another fighter. Take the damaged fighter and sell it for parts and maybe you can make a profit or break even. Or you could always keep the damaged fighter and save it as your spare parts just in case the backpack hindge breaks (which is common) or any other part breaks off. Since Yamato isn't dealing with overseas customers in replacing parts, this might be your best back up to have for spare parts. Btw, just as a suggestion, I have bought 1/48s at BigBadToyStore.com here in the states and have had good success with them. I haven't checked prices lately and compared them to HLJ but they are roughly about the same. the plus side of getting a new valk in the states is that if there is something wrong again, it might be quicker and easier to deal with exchanging and shipping costs. Look at their policies. some offer free shipping if something is damaged when you send it back to them. Basically no cost to you. Good luck and keep us posted. Edited February 20, 2004 by vf-24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit29 Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 (edited) I've had my share of good/bad luck with the 1/48 but seventh-moon I got your part. Its the right one isn't it? Luckliy this uses a screw instead of a rivet. Check your PM. Here's my ebay feedback for reference http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?View...5&since=-1&rd=1 Edited February 20, 2004 by dejr8bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventh-moon Posted February 21, 2004 Author Share Posted February 21, 2004 ive pm'd you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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