bandit29 Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 The current size of 1/100 is fine with me since I'm not a huge fan of the VF-0 in general. But if it were going to bigger 1/72 is good. That's a good standard scale. You 1/48 fanboys would be the first to complain once the price of a 1/48 VF-0 became available anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 nope im prepared to shell out 150-170$ for a 1/48 VF-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Ye Gods, is that thing huge!! I'd have to say that a 1/60 VF-0 would be my ceiling for a larger scale toy, both in shelf space and credit card capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caufield Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 no complaining here! i'm dropping 520 bucks (CDN) tomorrow on two 1/48's : 1J w/ fast pack and 1S Roy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirohawa Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 (edited) 1/48 all the way. Let shelves everywhere tremble in fear! Yamato seems to be selling the 1/48´s better than the 1/60s - based on them reissuing the VF1S Roy and the VF1A Hikaru. Also remeber When the 1/48s where announced they said they would make 3 or 4 versions of the toy and now they are up to 8 versions of the 1/48. So it seems a better move to make them in the large scale. Steve Edited January 29, 2004 by hirohawa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draykov Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 (edited) they are up to 8 versions of the 1/48. Not to mention that two of those were reissued and still sold. Well, they do already have the mold for a 1/48 M0 style pilot. Edited January 29, 2004 by Draykov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imode Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 What happens when you run out of shelfspace and can't fit another 1/48? You buy another shelf of course! Common sense! 1/48, kthx bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druna Skass Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 (edited) 1/60 max, I don't have the room or the money for anything bigger. I have a 1/48 F-14 kit and I need to keep that sucker sitting on it's tail since I have not room to keep it otherwise. Edited January 29, 2004 by Druna Skass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocco_77 Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I voted for 1/60... I would really love to see it in 1/48, but I just think for most people it would take up too much space, and the price would no doubt be pretty high. 1/60 is a good solid size that allows for sufficient detail. And with the size of the VF-0, a 1/60 with perfect transformation may be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weaseldancer Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I'd prefer the 1/60th scale. That would be plenty big and I could still fit it on my shelves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingPika Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 (edited) I would rather have one 1/48 VF-0 than ten 1/100 VF-0's But thats just me. AS totally upractical a 1/48 would be, i think it would be a different story if you got that thing in your hand. Unfortuntely i think well be seeing 1/100 and 1/72 VF-0s Edited January 29, 2004 by FlyingPika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Prefer 1/60 for size, cost, and compatibility with the other 1/60's, so that's what I voted for. 1/72 would be okay for size, cost, compatibility with M+ Valks (even though I don't have any yet) and compatibility with toys/models of real-world aircraft. (Not to mention 1/72 ground crew figures, etc.) I wouldn't buy a 1/48. Too big, and likely to be too costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbs357 Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Wow, that's a big difference. How in the world can a VF-0 simply be a VF-1 minus the nuclear engines with such a size difference? I guess some other things were left un-canon. o_O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 You missed several of the flamewars^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H discussions about the relationship between the VF-0 and VF-1. Basically, the VF-0 is a completely different airframe designed to test technology, which has been pressed into service since the VF-1's nuclear engines aren't ready. (The arguments are whether the VF-0 is supposed to test stuff for the VF-1 or for later, more advanced variable fighters. You can find them using the Search function...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxi Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 (edited) 1/60 because it's the only scale with as complete a set of the VF-1 as u're gonna get (don't hold your breath for 1D or Super O for 1/48). There are no more VF-1's to make except extremely niche (Max 1S, Kakizaki, etc). 1/48 is ridiculous. A 1/48 VF-0 would be 200 bucks minimum, but I'd be extremely surprised to see it happen at all. I don't remember a "Sith Proclamation" that Yamato was done with 1/60 after the Q-rau, but if so, it simplymeans no enemy mecha. <_< I'll hold out for 1/72 and 1/100 (the latter gets better the more I think of it). I hope they do everything in one (or both) of those scales from VF-1 to Q-rau to Monster to Regult and Glaug. EDIT: Oh yeah, and what's wrong with polls? Not like anyone forcing anyone to make a decision... I mean some of them are silly but how is that bad? Where's that quote about MW whining as a hobby? Edited January 29, 2004 by Uxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nani?! Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I would LIKE a 1/60... but I guess the Mac 0 series will follow the Mac + series with the 1/72. Hey, all good for me. Bring Em On. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imode Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 1/60 because it's the only scale with as complete a set of the VF-1 as u're gonna get (don't hold your breath for 1D or Super O for 1/48). Heh, why not? All that's missing from the 1/48 line is the CF but it was replaced with an equally cool Low Viz and surpassed soon after by the Hikaru 1S. So far, the the two lines have mirrored each other almost exactly, especially with the release of the three super J's. I suppose the next few months following Max and Millia will be make or break for the 1/48 line. If they decide to continue, I'd guess it would be a 1D, or dare I say it, a Full Armor set. If those are released, there's a good chance we'll also see a VT and VE. I won't say it's definite as they got rid of the guy that did the original sculpting for the 1/48 and the VE and VT will require some significant modifications. However, if Yamato goes all the way with VF-1 line for 1/48, then there's still hope they have a 1/48 VF-0 waiting in the wings as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 i remember graham saying there was a handful of releases for the 1;60 line and after that it was basically dead. I am guessing at the time there were 3 known"Vf-1 something, monster and qrau" and the rest were the GPS1 and armor add on pack stand alone set. YOu guys gotta realize the benefits of a 1/48 VF-0. it would be a lot EASIER to make perfect trasnformation in a 1/48 since its got more space for yamato to work with...1/72 only com,plicates this matter as yamato tries to figure out hwo the hell to make the trasnformation in a smaller toy. small no not SMALL i said smaller scale. and the poll resultws speak for themselves more people wnat this damn thing in 1./48. Imode hve the japanese BBS done a similar poll?Any of them bitching for a big ass 0 like i am? Also in this case bigger IS better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Ace Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I don't really care about relative scale, I just like my toys about 11"- 14" inches tall. They're just more fun to me. My girlfriend always says this, too. Anyway, I'd pay good money for that 1/48 VF-0. The shear size of such a display piece alone makes me want one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbs357 Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 You missed several of the flamewars^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H discussions about the relationship between the VF-0 and VF-1. Basically, the VF-0 is a completely different airframe designed to test technology, which has been pressed into service since the VF-1's nuclear engines aren't ready.(The arguments are whether the VF-0 is supposed to test stuff for the VF-1 or for later, more advanced variable fighters. You can find them using the Search function...) Ah, thinks for the clarification. I was under the impression that it was essentially a VF-1 minus nuclear engines. Apparently it's alot more. =p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 well to me not only is it biger than a Vf-1 but it LOOKS in some ways BETTER to me. Now of course VF-1 will always be my fav design btu VF-0 is jsut forking beautiful. Its like bridging the gap......still like aconventional jet powered engine and trasnformable.. F-14 VF-0 VF-1 get me? its lke inbetween. its also awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis! Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Mate , this threads are so friking funny I want to play the game too ! look at me : I want everything in 1/48 damnit !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druna Skass Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 YOu guys gotta realize the benefits of a 1/48 VF-0. What good do those benefits do if one doesn't have the space or the money for something that big. The Zero is about the size of an F-14, and the 1/48 F-14 kit I have is one of the biggest space whores I have at about 3x the size of the 1/60 VF-1. But then again that's just me, I don't really have a big need for perfect transformation or something the size of a frikin' dinner plate or a lawn gnome, just good detail and close line art accuracy. And bums like me can't afford expensive-ass toys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 (edited) and the poll resultws speak for themselves more people wnat this damn thing in 1./48. Not really. Even if we accept the poll at face value, it currently shows a plurality of people wanting 1/48. But if you lump the 1/60 and 1/72 people together, there are more of them than 1/48 people. And there are a few people who don't care about the scale. BTW, congrats to Valk-1S on his poll design. But I think a far more important question than "what is your preferred scale?" is "will you buy it if it comes out in X scale"? It would be good to add some assumptions, such as whether other scales will be available, whether it will have perfect transformation, and whether the price will be roughly commensurate with the absolute size of the toy given what we've seen so far. That means a 1/48 would be about 50-100% more than a 1/48 VF-1, a 1/60 about the price of a 1/48 VF-1, a 1/72 about the price of a 1/60 VF-1. I predict that if you created a poll like this, assuming perfect transformation and that there will definitely only be ONE scale for the "high grade" VF-0, you'll find that nearly everyone finds the 1/72 and 1/60 scales acceptable, while only a minority would be willing to buy the 1/48, being content to own 1/100's or nothing. So my guess is that the 1/48 would only make business sense if Yamato made two scales beyond the 1/100. Probably 1/72 and 1/48, in order to avoid having the "mid-grade" and "high-grade" lines compete with one another. But I really think we'll just see a 1/72 or 1/60. Edited January 29, 2004 by ewilen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingPika Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 The people complaining about the size and cost of the 1/48, thats what the 1/100 is for, low cost, and size of the VF-11, perfect for you. Now with regards to the people wanting perfect transformation, let them ask for thier 1/48 and stop biatching at them for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imode Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Mate , this threads are so friking funny I want to play the game too ! look at me : I want everything in 1/48 damnit !!! And the soon to be released expansion packs: I want everything in 1/60 damnit !!! and the I want everything in 1/72 damnit !!! Haven't we been here before? <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  Mate , this threads are so friking funny I want to play the game too ! look at me : I want everything in 1/48 damnit !!! And the soon to be released expansion packs: I want everything in 1/60 damnit !!! and the I want everything in 1/72 damnit !!! Haven't we been here before? At least they phased out the I want everything in 1/55 damnit !!! model. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  Mate , this threads are so friking funny I want to play the game too ! look at me : I want everything in 1/48 damnit !!! And the soon to be released expansion packs: I want everything in 1/60 damnit !!! and the I want everything in 1/72 damnit !!! Haven't we been here before? At least they phased out the I want everything in 1/55 damnit !!! model. Vostok 7 Yeah but they just started the I want everything in 1/100 damnit !!! crusade... <_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Yeah but they just started the I want everything in 1/100 damnit !!! crusade... Actually I would say it's more like the 1/100 is fine with me damnit!!! crusade. I don't care what size it is, I just want transforming VF-0 toys. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Yeah but they just started the I want everything in 1/100 damnit !!! crusade... <_>Actually I would say it's more like the 1/100 is fine with me damnit!!! crusade. LOL, just wait until Yamato announces the 1/144 Mac 0 Destroids... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirohawa Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Why is everyone assuming the 1/48 VF 0 would be so much more expensive than the current 1/48 VF 1 series. If Yamato is selling the 1/48 scale better than their other scales chances are they would follow suit and charge the same pricepoint for a 1/48 VF-0. There is a business model of sucess with the current 1/48 VF 1 series (2 models being reissued). That is not the case with the 1/60 and 1/72 line. Shelf space? Wouldn´t it be worth consolidating your collection for something as cool and detailed as a 1/48 0, especally if it was the same price as the current 1/48s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imode Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Shelf space? Wouldn´t it be worth consolidating your collection for something as cool and detailed as a 1/48 0, especally if it was the same price as the current 1/48s? Consolidate space for one toy!? My god man, are you insane?! You must have 20, or none at all. That is the way of Macross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel's Fury Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 And the 1/60 Monster or the Queadluun-Rau aren’t??? Why is it that everyone loves the idea of those two but the moment someone mentions a 1/48 VF-0 or YF-19 or some other large valk it’s oh no that would be too big I mean seriously a VF-0 is not that much bigger it’s about the same size as a F-14 and companies make plenty of 1/48 scale versions of those. It's not that I don't like it to be in 1/48 scale, it would be nice if it would. It's the first time for me having heard of a toy that big. (in a good way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigkid24 Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 For a bigger scale though, I think 1/72 would be nice. 1/48 would be just way too big. And we know Yamato is ditching the 1/60's after the Monster and Q-Rau. Vostok 7 Bigger scale: 1/72 (I'd say that would be just about right.) I didn't know that they were goin' to ditch the 1/60's after the Monster and Q-Rau! Thanks for the 411. Yeah, I didn't realize they were ditching the scale. That's too bad. I gues we're not getting Glaugs or Regults. Anyway, my two cents would be 1/60 scale but if Yamato is truly ditching it then 1/72 is okay by me. At least they'd be in scale with the Mac Plus stuff. As nice as the 1/48 scale would be I'd prefer not to have to store the box for that sucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit29 Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Why is everyone assuming the 1/48 VF 0 would be so much more expensive than the current 1/48 VF 1 series. If Yamato is selling the 1/48 scale better than their other scales chances are they would follow suit and charge the same pricepoint for a 1/48 VF-0. There is a business model of sucess with the current 1/48 VF 1 series (2 models being reissued). That is not the case with the 1/60 and 1/72 line. Shelf space? Wouldn´t it be worth consolidating your collection for something as cool and detailed as a 1/48 0, especally if it was the same price as the current 1/48s? One reason it would more expensive than a 1/48 VF-1 is because the VF-0 is bigger than the VF-1. The VF-0 is about the same size as a Macross Plus Valk. Why the VF-0 would be that big in Macross Zero doesn't make much sense continuity-wise. The other is lack of variants. IIRC the VF-0 has only 2? Correct me if I'm wrong. The VF-1 has several and is the franchise mech. The VF-0 is barely two years old and most likely not as well known. Shelf space? huh whats that? lol I'm running outta room as it is. Between NASCAR, Macross, LOTR, Berserk and other figures, I have stuff all over my house lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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