port Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 What scale was that 11 that Yamy made? Thanks. Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermillion01 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 the orginal Yamato Macross plus line was all 1/72 scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 It was officially 1/72, but in reality it was a bit off. I forgot what it was more sized to. I'm sure someone else with a better memory can chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpaint22 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 (edited) Wasn't it close to 1/60 scale even though it was said to be 1/72, can remember it was brought up in one of the yamato threads. Think it was the anniversary 1S and 19 tread but not sure. Edited September 21, 2007 by warpaint22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermillion01 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Yeah the actual size eludes me, but they were advertised and marketed at 1/72. I think like 1/65 is more realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valk009 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 The original Mac Plus Yammie line was supposedly to be 1/72 scale. But since the toy was hand sculpted without the aid of cad (correct me if I am wrong) the scaling could be a little bit off. Furthermore, Yammie might thought that the smaller VF-11 would look odd when packaged and placed together with the YF-19 and YF-21, so they decided to make all three valks roughly the same size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 The VF-11 ending up being 1/64, 1/65, right around there. It was enlarged from 1/72 due to fragility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Bleh - those toys were really ugly when compared with the current crop. The only things I appreciate are the 1/60 VFs with their attempt at perfect transformation look - so they do look good (still like my Elintseeker to date)... but in general the 1/72 Plus jets were just yucky.... particularly the yf19... bleh.... VFTF1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermillion01 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 This aint no fashion show!!! Just a question of size... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneWolf Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 The VF-11 ending up being 1/64, 1/65, right around there. It was enlarged from 1/72 due to fragility. Really? Yamato's VF-11B looks like a shrimp compared to Bandai's 1/65 Fire Valkyrie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermillion01 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 and it should... kinda. The VF-11B is smaller than the VF-19, I think the comparison would be like the VF-0 to the VF-1 (both in 1/60) it should be a bit smaller. Remeber the "19" is a next gen fighter and was bigger to accomodate the new technologies and advanced avionics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneWolf Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 and it should... kinda. The VF-11B is smaller than the VF-19, I think the comparison would be like the VF-0 to the VF-1 (both in 1/60) it should be a bit smaller. Remeber the "19" is a next gen fighter and was bigger to accomodate the new technologies and advanced avionics. The reason I was surprised is that in the animation it makes the VF11B look like it's around the same size. In M+ Isamu's VF-11B doesn't look that much smaller than Guld's YF-21 (which is as large as a VF-19) in episode 1. And in M7 none of the VF-11C's look significantly smaller than Basara's Fire Valkyrie. Although since it is TV animation I'm not going to give it much credit, but I would like to think that the M+ OAV would get the sizes right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermillion01 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Good point... I was always of the believe that the 19 and 21 were the largest valks (with the VF-0) due to their advanced nature... hmmm time to check the compendium or M3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneWolf Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 (edited) Good point, just checked and the VF-19 Kai is approximately 2.5 meters taller than the 11B Edited September 21, 2007 by TheLoneWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermillion01 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 According to specs.. VF-11 - Wingspan: 11.2 meters Overall length: 15.51 meters Overall height: 3.49 meters YF-19 - Wingspan: 14.87 meters Overall length: 18.62 meters Overall height: 3.94 meters YF-21 - Wingspan: 15.36 meters Overall length: 19.62 meters Overall height: 4.04 meters so says M3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 The VF-11 ending up being 1/64, 1/65, right around there. It was enlarged from 1/72 due to fragility. the 1/72 VF-11 is actually a .5 inches LARGER in toy mode than it would be had it been in 1/60 scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostryder Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 (edited) So if Yamato stays close to 1/60 scale on their upcoming VF-11B, is this what we can expect? (Squidd's pic) Edited September 21, 2007 by ghostryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I doubt it, like the "1/72" I'm sure yamato will just make it in the same size range as other 1/60 valks and even though it's actually 1/50 or somthing, they'll just call it "1/60" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
port Posted September 22, 2007 Author Share Posted September 22, 2007 That 11 doesn't look like a 65th scale. But thanks for the info. Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 It's hard to give an exact scale when it's not accurate in any dimension to any established figure (since the line art doesn't agree with itself, nor the animation), but I recall 1/64 or so being said by Graham way back at Alt.Fan.Macross, IIRC. Of all things, overall length is probably the worst thing to go by to compare scales of toys to the lineart/established numbers. The noses are almost always shortened on the toys, while everything else maintains size. Generally/roughly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 and it should... kinda. The VF-11B is smaller than the VF-19, I think the comparison would be like the VF-0 to the VF-1 (both in 1/60) it should be a bit smaller. Remeber the "19" is a next gen fighter and was bigger to accomodate the new technologies and advanced avionics. If that's so, then when Yamato comes around to finally making a new VF-11B... ...it will be in 1/48 scale. (runs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermillion01 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 If that's so, then when Yamato comes around to finally making a new VF-11B... ...it will be in 1/48 scale. (runs) I wish! nah Yamato are infamous for doing their own version of scaling.. it will (if it ever materialises) most likely be a 1/60 that will not be quite right next to a YF-19 or YF-21, but we can always hope they dont screw up the scales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneWolf Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Here's a pic of Jarrod's 1/100 models, the VF-11B is noticably smaller than than the VF-19S. That's what I get for relying on the animation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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