pfunk Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 OK, Please ease my wery mind, A)Macross (super dimensional fortress) (original TV series) 1)Robotech (the macross saga) a)edited english dubbed slightly changed script and content (Protoculture,ect) B) Macross Do You Remember Love (Movie sumarizing the original Macross TV series) 1) Clash of the Bionoids (heavily edited for visual content released in GB) 2) Macross The Movie (English dubbed of the original DYRL) C) Macross II (japaniese only? no engish dub) (4parts?) D) Macross Plus (Japaniese and English Dub on DVD) Ok guys, Lemme have it, Are thiese in order and are they true, I've been doing research and such to Find the facts. Maybe a topic like this should be "pinned" Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsvictor1976 Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 (edited) I think it should be in this order: 1. Macross 2. Robotech 3. DYRL (Macross movie) 4. Clash of the Bionoids (shitty english dub) 5. Macross II (later was found to be illegitamate and an alternate timeline) 6. Macross Plus (the legitimate timeline) 7. Macross 7 (legitimate timeline after Macross Plus) Please note DYRL and Clash of the Bionoids doesn't really fall anywhere in the Macross timeline as it was suppose to be a "movie within a movie" that takes place in Macross 7. Confused yet? Go here for more info: Link Edited October 13, 2003 by rsvictor1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted October 13, 2003 Author Share Posted October 13, 2003 (edited) Oh yeah, I've seen Leheads site, its all good. basically Im looking for unedited english dubs (unlike clash of the.......) and how the macross series and movies sequence to eachother A little digging gave me this SDF Macross (original TV series - 1982) Macross: Do You Remember Love? (movie - 1984) Macross Flashback 2012 (music video - 1987) Macross II (OVA & movie - 1992) Macross Plus (OVA & movie - 1994) Macross 7 (series, movie, OVA - 1994) Macross Zero (OVA - 2002) I just have to find the "better" dubs if I can of each (the ones that got released) Edited October 13, 2003 by pfunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted October 13, 2003 Author Share Posted October 13, 2003 wow, you edited before me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 There aren't any "officially" released dubs of M7 or M0; I doubt there are any of Flashback 2012. As for the movie, I know that there have been more than two different English language releases--though aside from the editing, they may only differ in terms of videotape box design. In addition to the "Robotech" dub of Superdimensional Fortress Macross, there was a dub done in the Philippines. Also an abortive effort by HG to do SDF Macross "straight", before they decided to edit it into Robotech. Info on both are in this thread: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...&hl=phillipines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 (edited) If you go to http://www.anime.net/macross/production/an..._remember_love/ and search on "English" you come up with the following. (I've edited and rearranged a bit for brevity and clarity.) Super Spacefortress Macross Video Tape 115 minutes, color, monoaural, English-dubbed Victor Entertainment 1987 March 5 Super Spacefortress Macross Laser Disc 120 minutes, color, digital stereo, English-dubbed, Japanese-subtitled Victor Entertainment 1987 April 21 (discontinued) Clash of the Bionoids (North America Release) Video Tape 90 minutes (edited for content), color, English-dubbed Best Film & Video Superdimensional Fortress Macross Video Tape 115 minutes, color, English-dubbed Best Film & Video 1995 July 11 Clash of the Bionoids (UK Release) Video Tape 90 minutes, color, English-dubbed [Removed box pictures...see next post for why] Edited October 13, 2003 by ewilen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 (edited) [i had uploaded some box pictures before I realized they're all on the MW main pages. Click here to see them.] Edited October 13, 2003 by ewilen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 Here's one that's not on the MW main pages. It's probably the full-length version (no edits, or just a few). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted October 13, 2003 Author Share Posted October 13, 2003 I know thiers a DVD for Macross plus, thier selling it in the stores, They are for region 1 and you can play it Japaniese with english subtitles digital dolby or you can play english in std dolby 5.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAG Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 I have that version, and I believe that its not edited.....but I could be wrong. Either way, loads of fun to watch for the Major's Clint Eastwood impression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Payne Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Here's one that's not on the MW main pages. It's probably the full-length version (no edits, or just a few). Somewhere, out there, there's a subtitled version of DYRL that has minor edits: the zero-gee love scene is slightly edited to get rid of Minmay's nude shot--the editor extended the shot of the showerhead to cover the nude yet keep the timing of the song correct. Also, three decapitations are cut -- The Zentradi being killed by Millia, a UN spacy soldier in the final battle, and the long shot of Hikaru blasting away at Bodolzaa is slowed down to get rid of the closeup of the bullets ripping into Bodolzaa's head. I've seen it mostly because in my misspent youth, that was the only full-length movie I had ever downloaded of the Internet. Superspace Fortress Macross is NOT edited, although the translations are real iffy. The Kiseki translation is even worse. (Scene on Earth, where Hikaru and Misa are talking about Hikaru's parents) Regular: Hikaru: He was doing an aerobatic manuver, and he went "zoom, crash!" just like that. Kiseki: Hikaru: Wow, you change subjects just like an acrobat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 Ok, heres what I got so far Macross plus parts 1-4 Macross II the movie Should I even get Macross II due to the lack in timeline? How are both of them? Thanks , Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 There's a dub of Macross II the Movie by Manga and I think US Renditions. I'm not a fan of Macross II. To me none of the mecha look right (well they weren't designed by Kawamori). I don't love the valkyries in this one, but that's just personal taste, I know there's a lot of people out there who love em! Character design is Haruhiko Mikimoto. I liked the music, it has an early 90's-ish kind of feel, and I bought the soundtrack just for the opening song. The opening animation was directed by Masami Oobari (if you've watched Fatal Fury/Garou Densetsu, you'll see what I mean). As for story... Its alright, nothing outstanding or great. The whole reporter thing wasn't that great of an innovation in my not so humble opinion. Since I've never heard the original Japanese voices, I can't go screaming about how the dub sucks because the voices are all messed up. But, just on the basis of voice acting it was alright. It wasn't like the old Macross Movie dub (the Best Video corp release, completely unedited) where it sounded like English wasn't the first language of the dubbers. "A man aaand a wo-Man? Whats that?! A man aand a wo-Man!" Watch it if your bored, that's all I can suggest. When I first bought it I thought it was a waste of money, but it grew on me, and I occasionally watch it when I'm in the mood for something different, but still Macross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 How about plus, is that a good one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wabbit Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 I have the video (PAL) Clash of the Bionoids and it's basicly DYRL dubbed in English with original Japanese music. The English Minmay sounds like a nicotine-junkie with a heavy nasal voice, or is it the quality of the tape...? Hikaru sounds like a whiny slow-witted kid, it's just awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wabbit Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 How about plus, is that a good one? Certainly, although I would've liked to see more mech action than that triple soap opera between Isamu, Guld and Myun, the dvd's aren't that expensive, so you can always try them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 I bumped this, cause thier was a lot of questions that can be answered about the dubbing and content Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southcross Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Thanks for the bump, very interesting read. Having been of the "Robotech" generation, I understood that it (Robotech) was a combination of three different Anime stories "perverted" from their original story to make enough eppisodes to get a syndication in the US. Although I (up untill the last few years) never knew the correlation of one "Macross" to the other... Like II being a tangent story and really having no place in the "real" timeline. Several years ago I came across Macross II in a video rental store. I rented it and I was so disappointed. Now that I have learned its place in things, I wish I could see it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 A Note on Macross Continuity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southcross Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 (edited) Flashback 2012? Thats a new one to me... I still haven't seen 7 yet, but maybe I need to find Flashback... dunno... I wish these were easier to find, I don't personally know any Anime buffs I could borrow it (or anything) from. Scrolling back up I see pFunk mentioned it, its still a new one to me... Edited January 23, 2004 by Southcross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JValk Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 definitely see flashback, if only for the new animation and the compilation of cheesy music vids! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 ... loads of fun to watch for the Major's Clint Eastwood impression. Lebhead described that as "John Wayne on acid" but I personally loved the dub just for the parts with The Major. They made him into a maniac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 ... loads of fun to watch for the Major's Clint Eastwood impression. Lebhead described that as "John Wayne on acid" but I personally loved the dub just for the parts with The Major. They made him into a maniac. Hey now, no ripping on us manics! Don't mess with bi-polar people! You know, I don't usually think of Agent when I think of "getting it straight", if ya know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 ... loads of fun to watch for the Major's Clint Eastwood impression. Lebhead described that as "John Wayne on acid" but I personally loved the dub just for the parts with The Major. They made him into a maniac. Hey now, no ripping on us manics! Don't mess with bi-polar people! You know, I don't usually think of Agent when I think of "getting it straight", if ya know what I mean. No worries, we are both maniacs... It is those who can't taste the fruit of OUR vision that are lacking in life. I prefer to think of, what many call my "insanity" as a 6th sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 <_< I think I know what your talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Thanks for posting that chart Exo, but it's a little out of date. I've done a bit of renovating to it to reflect how things should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel's Fury Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I guess you really hate Mac 7 bsu! Btw, isn't Mac 0 after SDF Macross unless I'm wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 LOL.. Perfect BSU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Btw, isn't Mac 0 after SDF Macross unless I'm wrong? Macross Zero takes place in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I guess you really hate Mac 7 bsu! Btw, isn't Mac 0 after SDF Macross unless I'm wrong? No, takes place before... Have you seen Zero yet!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel's Fury Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I guess you really hate Mac 7 bsu! Btw, isn't Mac 0 after SDF Macross unless I'm wrong? No, takes place before... Have you seen Zero yet!?? No and thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Thanks for posting that chart Exo, but it's a little out of date. I've done a bit of renovating to it to reflect how things should be. hahaha!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Thanks for posting that chart Exo, but it's a little out of date. I've done a bit of renovating to it to reflect how things should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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