Gundam Show Thread - MSG thru GQuuuuuuX

[Seto Kaiba]

Well, GQuuuuuuX ended today.

I'll say this for it.  The ending is the best episode of the series.  Still not great, but actually enjoyable to watch where a lot of the rest of the series has felt like a bit of a slog though filler.  There's a fair amount of fanservice, multiple betrayals, and a proper explanation of WTH is actually going on with the universe.

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So, apparently I was mostly correct... the GQuuuuuuX timeline is a product of Lalah Sune Zero Escape-ing herself repeatedly in a bid to create a Golden Timeline where she and Char both survive and can ideally be together.

Rose of Sharon Lalah is not First Gundam Lalah, though.  She's from another alternate timeline where it was Char who died fighting the RX-78-2 Gundam not Lalah, and her despair caused the first zeknova.  This alternate Lalah has spent a small eternity frantically save scumming the One Year War with her Newtype time powers in an effort to tweak the circumstances enough that Char survives the conflict.  She has supposedly created, then discarded and destroyed, innumerable alternate timelines in her frantic despair to find some combination of circumstances that doesn't get Char killed.

Shuji Ito is her hatchet man.  His job, as a fellow native of The Other Side, is to kill her and thus Reset the World and destroy the current parallel timeline.  He claims that this is something he's done countless times before as Char dies in practically every timeline.  He shows us Char's custom mobile suits from a bunch of Lalah's failed attempts... with a Char's Custom Gouf, Zudah, Bigro, Big Zam, Galbaldy Beta, and some giant MS I've never seen before.  The GQuuuuuuX timeline is implied to be the closest Lalah has come to success: an alternate timeline where, by having Char steal the Gundam, Lalah has successfully prevented Char from being killed by it during the war.   What Shuji's concerned about, though, is that since this Char rejects the distortions Lalah has made in the world that his rejection of her will drive her mad with despair and cause her to unintentionally destroy BOTH realities.  

So there's a final clusterf*** of a confrontation as Shuji tries to kill Lalah to reset the world, Machu and Nyan try to stop him, and Char and Challia have it out over what's best for the future.  The whole mess ends with Shuji summoning a kaiju-sized white Gundam, the GQuuuuuuX turning into an Evangelion and beheading it, Kycilia getting blown up similar to how she did in First Gundam, and Lalah waking up and deciding to go the hell home.  So she destroys Yomagn'tho and takes herself and Shuji out of the universe.

The rest of the cast get happy endings.  Machu and Nyan are besties again, hanging out on a beach somewhere on Earth since they're still wanted terrorists in Side 6.  Char escapes the destruction of the Red Gundam and goes to Earth to meet this timeline's Lalah.  Challia is rescued from the wreck of the Kikeroga by Xavier, and then goes on to oversee Artesia Deikun's installation as sovereign in Zeon now that Gihren and Kycilia are dead.  We even get to see that the Pomeranians, who've apparently been living on the run in their junk guild ship, have found a new MS for Clan Battle (a Zock) and are planning to salvage what remains of the Yomagn'tho for the junk guild.  

 

[Hikuro]

Hm....

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For me it still doesn't make up that the majority of the series rather blew. But at least they gave us something and had Keith Silverstein reprise his role as Char from the other world.....though Lucien Dodge I don't care for. That dude and I had beef way back when we were novice voice artists and he just really pissed me off cause he was sore that people preferred my voice on a certain character we both did over his and he just bashed the living hell out my variant and I didn't say squat on his.


 

But hey, 12 episodes, series is over, 12 episodes of meh, and now I really feel like I'm losing faith in the Gundam franchise once more. 

[Hikaru Ichijo SL]

It is over yay. Now I can forget about this show.  Zero reason to ever watch it again.  I hope the next Gundam show is better.  But I am losing hope quickly.  I thought Witch was bad this is far worse.

[Big s]

Well, shows over.

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Have no idea where artesia has been this whole time. Was she still sided with earth? Did the fact that she took over mean that she has a bigger role not only of Zeon, but the earth federation as well?

I kinda get the feeling that this show was meant to be far longer, but got cut short and they just had to cram everything in The last few episodes. 

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The fact the junkers had an amphibious mobile suit kinda gave the impression that there were supposed to be more earth episodes 

I definitely enjoyed it more than witch and overall thought it was fun despite many many flaws.

[pengbuzz]

3 hours ago, Hikaru Ichijo SL said:

It is over yay. Now I can forget about this show.  Zero reason to ever watch it again.  I hope the next Gundam show is better.  But I am losing hope quickly.  I thought Witch was bad this is far worse.

Watch the next one be about:

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A distant future Earth (well after the Universal Century or any other variants) where mutant bunny rabbits who are at war discover the remains of the Mobile Suits and create a whole new series of them to fight their wars....

 

[Seto Kaiba]

Just now, Big s said:

Well, shows over.

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Have no idea where artesia has been this whole time. Was she still sided with earth? Did the fact that she took over mean that she has a bigger role not only of Zeon, but the earth federation as well?

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A much bigger role, yeah.

Similar to the original Mobile Suit Gundam series, Artesia Som Deikun joined the Earth Federation Forces under her longtime alias "Sayla Mass".

Unlike the original Mobile Suit Gundam series, in the absence of Amuro Ray it was Artesia who became the Federation's ace Mobile Suit pilot.  Her signature machine was one of the Federation's Light Guncannons painted in the classic Gundam paint scheme:

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We know that she was instrumental in two of the most pivotal battles in the GQuuuuuuX timeline's One Year War: Solomon and Granada.

At Solomon, Artesia was the one who took down Admiral Dozle Zabi's Big Zam mobile armor and cleared the way for the Federation to capture Zeon's frontline fortress.  She was also on the front lines at Granada, trying to stop Zeon's forces from diverting Solomon's course by blasting it into pieces.  She confronted and defeated Char inside of the fortress, and the two vanished in the Zeknova that saved Granada.

Where she's been since is anyone's guess.  Probably Earth, since she is aligned with the Federation.

 

 

Just now, Big s said:

I kinda get the feeling that this show was meant to be far longer, but got cut short and they just had to cram everything in The last few episodes. 

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The fact the junkers had an amphibious mobile suit kinda gave the impression that there were supposed to be more earth episodes 

I definitely enjoyed it more than witch and overall thought it was fun despite many many flaws.

Nah, this series was definitely meant to be this short.  

There's a lot they could have done with it, but most of what they did was screwing around to waste airtime because they didn't even have enough actual story to fill twelve episodes.

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As for the Pomeranians, that they show up one last time on a junk run with an old MSM-10 Zock they intend to retrofit for Clan Battle is pretty much a joke at their expense.

The Zock is an infamously sh*tty one-episode wonder of a Mobile Suit that's best known for being defeated incredibly quickly and for Char's immediate reaction of disgust when he saw it for the first time.  It's barely a Mobile Suit.  Its legs are purely decorative.  It can't walk.  Its arms have a very limited range of motion and can't hold weapons.  Overall its mobility is nearly zero.  It's basically an extremely ungainly self-propelled gun turret thanks to its built-in mega particle cannons.  It had to be made symmetrical  and have a ton of built-in guns because it literally cannot turn around properly.  The only place where it excels is in underwater straight-line speed due to its shape.  It's the very last mobile suit that has any business being anywhere NEAR space.

[Old_Nash_II]

About the last episode of Gundam 

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[VF8000G]

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Tsurumaki: Giant White Gundam?  Get it?  Because it's a homage to Giant Naked Rei teheeheee!

I hate this show.  It transcends member berries homages and becomes an Inferno Cop level shitpost. 

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Also really bad optics to bring back Tohru Furuya after all the horrible crap he did. 

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[Big s]

8 minutes ago, VF8000G said:

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Tsurumaki: Giant White Gundam?  Get it?  Because it's a homage to Giant Naked Rei teheeheee!

I hate this show.  It transcends member berries homages into an Inferno Cop level shitpost. 

I thought it was more of an odd Dunbine reference 

[VF8000G]

2 minutes ago, Big s said:

I thought it was more of an odd Dunbine reference 

I don't think so, the show never hides its own self-indulgence with the Gainax staff.  Or maybe, it was forced to be this way by the committee.