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  1. As if the man would wanna fly anything that's not a VF-19, lol. I know there's a YF-29 with "Isamu colors, but let the joke play out A bit more interested on how would the transformation look for the new designs. I don't think we're gonna go back to the more rounder and/or bulky design aesthetic from Plus/7, and Delta's designs were very derivative of Frontiers as much as I prefer the latter's designs overall.
  2. Probably not much, considering it was such a solid design it had the moniker as the "Varja Killer," so it had both the power and speed for potential colonies and fleets. At most I can see just general improvements on the design, like the VF-14D and VF-19F were to their initial production runs.
  3. To be perfectly fair we're supposed to believe the Feios Valkyrie (from the VF-X game series) came from the VF-11 prototype in 2030 despite looking closer to the VAB-2/FBz-99G.
  4. The Megaroad-class were the first of the Long Range colony ships that were used for the first emigrant colony fleets, the Megaroad-01 was just the first of its kind and the most infamous due to its disappearance and connections in Delta. The planet which the Varauta Army would later become arrived there in 2025 (iirc) in the Megaroad-13 for example. I don't know how many of them were built, but the highest number went up to Megaroad-24 and Megaroad-25...Which were destroyed during construction.
  5. I'm still wondering why we haven't heard anything from Nozomi since. But considering they were apparently recently bought by Crunchyroll....I don't wanna come to the worst conclusion, but it's mildly worrying. Seems to be the case, though I still think it's kinda funny that Timoshee from VF X2 has been working as a soldier since the SW1, and by 2051 he still looks like a somewhat young adult. Huh...I never really caught his last name! Kinda funny that him (at the very least his last name) and a SDFN class named after him would be the closest thing he'd be referenced by after the original series.
  6. I believe the Plus prequel novel also says something about Neumann being a child prodidgy, or at the very least working on the YF-19's development when the friendship between Isamu, Guld, and Myung broke apart. And speaking of Selzer's previous name, it seemed that some modern material (like The Ride) seems to suggest the DYRL naming scheme for Zentradi is leaning towards the """true""" names of uncultured Zentradi, and the "full" names they have like they did in the TV series seems to be after being enlightened of sorts. Oh wow, that's a lot. Unsurprising considering their role, but it's nice even up to Frontier they still go strong in such high amount of numbers. There's other factors to consider how widespread they are (overall fleet amount on planets and other colonies, coexisting with other variable craft, etc.) Does make me curious about how any planets or other astronomical bodies the UN has colonized. So I was curious and looked if the Master File got that from somewhere, or made it up (like the all-Zentradi pilot VF-19 fleet iirc.) Apparently it was in a kit, and man do they look stylish in black and grey. Was going through the Macross Technical Manual, and I was curious about the research about the Fleet count of the NUN military and the population of the New UN, but even with Internet Archive they seem to be eternally 404'd. Does anyone recount the info there, or is there new information about that since? Master File seems to be ripped with short, but great Macross stories all over the timeline. Official or not, I like how it makes the world in the franchise even bigger then the pockets or insight we see in the series.
  7. That's actually kind of impressive, if not mildly disturbing. You know what, those are very good points and characters I do like. And even though The Ride isn't translated in any compacity (that I know of) I do like Chelsea and her unique struggles from what I can gather. Really now? Guess I haven't been in that particular bubble of sci-fi to say otherwise, but I can see how it could be. That's a very good point. Apparently there is a unconfirmed planet under the star's habitable zone from observations in 1989, so there's a possibility they grabbed that chance when it revealed itself.
  8. Somehow the biggest piece of evidence that Frontier was the really rich colony out of the rich colonies. I bet not even Zentradi-only colonies would go this hard with macronized Zentradi life. 😆 Though Exsedol and Veffidas (at least before Fire Bomber) managed to live as giants in colonies, though that's almost definitely the minority. Being one out of 10 Zentradi fans in the world is just constant pain, I just want more Zentradi based Valkyries. Or series. Or characters who won't be red shirts/evil. Anything for that matter. 😭 Jokes aside, I had a stray thought about Eden. I'm kinda surprised that Macross Plus made a entirely fictional planet instead of using Proxima Centauri's exoplanets as the first space colony since the mass immigration, since it's been well known to exist since 1915 and the "close" proximity it is from Earth.
  9. Reading that I assumed the VA-14 was made bulkier then the VF-14 because Zentradi overall preferred something less fragile like the VF-11 and more durable that can last longer in endurance, like Zentradi technology usually is. Though if it's supposed to be a heavier version of the VF-14 (Which checks out with Kawamori's finalized design), it feels weird since it was already considered a Heavy fighter to begin with.
  10. For some reason I keep forgetting Manfred and his suspiciously similar colors Miriya's VF-17S had. Maybe it's precisely because of that. 😅 Liked the ominous music whenever he popped up too, especially when (according to the soundtrack name) it's from the Jamming Sound Device as well. I also keep forgetting Macross 30 has a story as well; I just don't think it's as well documented as VF-X2's. Time Travel is involved, iirc? It went back to even SDF, to an extent. While we know how much guns are attached and how many VF's and Destroids UN ships can hold, if any, the Zentradi warships are officially "many mecha" and "many weapons" to paraphrase.
  11. In all fairness considering how much Zentradi that fought alongside the SDF-1 Macross turned against humanity who were unable to get over their programming, the UN wouldn't bet to try to do this to every fleet they come across, least they end up with more glassed planets. Though I don't think it'd be impossible if more "culture-shock" incidents like the Chlore Fleet happened semi-frequently in the colonization in space.
  12. The VF-17/VF-171 also has a good reputation in and out of universe, though it helps the VF-17 was tied to a major character in 7 and were never (barring Delta's involuntary instance) used as the antagonist Valkyries. And yeah, from what we could tell from the remains even the Zentradi-only (and presumably General Galaxy dominated) Macross 5 preferred the lightweight and versatile VF-11C as their main fighter instead of the VF-14, which shared a lot with their VA-14.
  13. Shame I can't get them now, but that's nice! Any new information that seemed to pop up? The more Macross goes on the more it feels like the VF-14 feels like the neglected weird middle sibling with an identity crisis. 😅😆
  14. Something I've always been confused about is the notion that Gerwalks are pretty much useless in space. Granted in the TV series itseld they don't do much, but I like how they're used in DYRL, where it's more or less used as anchors for the Valkyrie to stop itself since there's no wind resistance in space. Maybe it's one of those technical movie-only things like how the VT-1 could land in water with no issue, but the Gerwalk is honestly a unsung/overlooked iconic part of the issue and it's mildly annoying when they pass it off. And speaking of the VF-1, I don't know if I missed something, but it seems like they're one of, if not the only Valkyrie model that has it's head turrets be able to turn instead of being fixed, much less being the turret under the canopy in Fighter Mode. I get the ones from the VF-11-onwards are useful for its blind spots, but at the same time it probably could also be useful as a quick-thinking weapon if a gun pod isn't available
  15. Okay so I was just overthinking it the whole time. 😅It does make sense considering how huge the UN's sphere and control, much less the galaxy, is. Some parts of the galaxy wouldn't have Shinsei Industries to make stuff for them "in-house" so to speak. I think even on the Macross Mecha Manual page it's explained one of the reasons why the UN ships in Frontier look different then how they did in Plus/7 is because of different manufacturers, if not due to their date of construction. On a extended note it would definitely mean there's many, many, MANY more sub-variants of Valkyries, ships, etc. then we see onscreen.
  16. Sorry for doubleposting, but I got curious of the existence of the VF-19/MG21. It's the Macross Galaxy licensed VF-19 yes, though that also means it was made by General Galaxy. Unless I'm overthinking this, but would they have the legal rights to make something their rival Shinsei Industry has made? Would this mean theoretically General Galaxy could make, I dunno, something like a Zentradi-type VF-11 then? Then again this is the Macross Galaxy, illegal operations is just how they roll.
  17. Right, this game does have unique animated cutscenes. In the first level it even shows the SDF-1 and the Skull Squadron leaving earth right before the Zentradi glassed it from high heavens. I dunno how much it lines up with the movie (and, at least to me, it's implied Minmay has a sense of what happened on the planet), but I know the whole thing of "Zentradi having a jamming device to block out music specifically" doesn't at all, lol.
  18. A part of me considering one of the concerts from Zettai Live!!! wonders if they'll go completely 3D. At this point I'd say their character animation in that field doesn't look bad in it, though I can imagine that being somehow more expensive. Honestly considering Kawamori usually goes forward within the franchise, I wouldn't mind if later down the road we get side-stuff that's not written/directed by him but still has the Macross feel, whether that'd be light novels (such as The Ride) or even a ONA of sorts from a previous time. Even though it's a dream that probably won't come, a part of me really wants a Gundam MSV type series where it showcases designs not particularly for a series but just to show off and make kits of, for Valkyries, Zentradi stuff, ships, etc. This is definitely not an excuse to finally get official designs for unseens like the VA-14, VAB-2, or YF-24, no siree. 😁
  19. I dunno if it's me or not, but the one at the bottom middle seems two ship "arms" away from being a Zentradi-based Macross-type ship. They kinda look too..."triangular(?)" to be Kazutaka designs for the series; his ships had a lot of round edges and not like his later DYRL Meltradi ships. Wouldn't be surprised if these were from the Studio Nue animators themselves.
  20. It is also noticeable that even the UN-built battleships had a slight nod to the appearance of their captured Zentradi ships, where the ships from Plus-onwards follow a more linear progression of the UN designs from SDFM. Though I did hear a interesting theory in a comment from a Macross Mecha Manual FB post that in universe (since the regular stealth frigate was design prior by Kazutaka) the Zentradi-Type Northampton was built first before refitted with NUNS technology. Would make sense considering how up until the Plus/7 era most of their ships that weren't ARMD or the rare Oberth ships were either captured Zentradi ships or visually similar looking (like the M3 battleship) Think it's even more apparent that all of the current VF's in MII was based on the Zentradi Valkyrie, which was made for cultured Zentradi that became apart of the UN (Kinda like the VA-14/VF-14, funny enough.) At least with the VF-1->VF-11->VF-19->etc. the current series is a lot more linear in terms of VF design, as opposed to the Gundam esque "throw on the wall and see what sticks" mentality. In a way, maybe. MII was more focused on the "more guns" ideology that Kawamori ironically steered away from. Unless you count the odd Armored Packs that continues to pop up. Though on the loose topic of VF design, I do wonder what was the VF-16 was at the very least, designed for. It's not like the other unknown designs (VF-5, VA-14, VAB-2) where we knew what role they held, but aside from a plot device for the VF-11MAXL Custom, I'm not sure if it was supposed to be in wide numbers like the VF-11, or a special forces unit.
  21. Oh, I didn't even know those 20+ mentioned were solely the Sol System Thank you and goodnight! I'd assume they were all spread out in the galaxy. Remembering Macross: The Ride, Fasces acquired the Factory Satellite the Protodevlin used to make the Elgerzolns, Panzersoln's, etc. So I assume that used to belong to the Varauta government itself. On a side note, can imagine those belonging to the frontier fleets being a source of trading disputes and what not. B-52 variable bomber when? I don't believe a connection has ever been mentioned there. The Valkyries that HAVE been influenced by the Nousjadeul-Ger are, Variable Glaug excluded, all in the Macross II parellel world timeline. In hindsight the Variable Glaug's Battroid form is very Nousjadeul-Ger inspired, especially with the head and beam cannon. Pretty much the most "modern" equivalent of most Zentradi mechs. Kinda like how the YF-21/VF-22 is very Quadluun-Rau esque. Speaking of, since the Neo Glaug was a 4th generation Variable Fighter, I wonder if it was subjected to the same export restrictions the VF-19 and VF-22 did.
  22. That does make me curious; Macross Chronicle 2E Mechanic Sheet states that more than twenty factory satellites were placed under the control of the UN Forces. So that makes me wonder two things: Are all of them barring the Quimeliquola factory were made to manufacture Regults, or there were a few or more that originally manufactured something else (like Ships, Nousjadeul-Gers, Zentradi clones, etc.). And aside from the aforementioned two, do we know who specifically would have control over them? Would they be moved to the more "important" key places of the Central UN, or any regular colony fleet/government that comes across one can keep one if they stumbled onto one?
  23. Oh, I see. The generalization does make sense overall, being stationed on a planet with a well established population would make you protectors of said planet by default. The best date I had for their destruction was in 2029, one year before all hell broke loose. I'm assuming that uprising had a lot more rise in tensions even more so compared to Kamujin's. I probably answered my own curiosity when I remembered it was so bad giant Zentradi were banned outright from being on Earth... Look, how would they know that messing around and finding out would result in awakening space vampire eldritch abominations? Not even Sharon and the Varja was that out there! 😆 Yeah, and with Macross 5's case, it seems that having a fleet full with pure Zentradi based technology would work best with an all Zentradi population. Though I would assume a human probably wouldn't have too much issue piloting a VA-14 or Variable/Neo Glaug if necessary. Though, now I'm wondering what kind of "themed" culture Zentradi would have to make an entire city have that aesthetic? They're trying to preserve culture as best as they can, it's not their fault the majority of Gundam Unicorn and the new Star Wars trilogy never existed. 🤣 Though depending on who you ask that might be a good thing. And in case those jokes didn't land, this is what I was referencing: I don't know what's possessing you to making these kinds of memes, don't don't exorcise it please.
  24. Well in the context of Delta they were closer to a more populous area iirc. I can assume city defense is a more higher status then those dead end postings, if Diamond Force's transfer to defend City 7 is to be believed. Now that I didn't catch on! That's a bit interesting, and explains a lot on my pondering's about the military's flexibility. I'd imagine they'd be a result of the 2030 attack, considering the Macross 5 fleet was grouped up with the malcontent Zentradi Emigrants in Macross Chronicle (And confusing me in the process...) Though, are you referring to the Megaroad-24 and Megaroad-25's destructions? I assume those were from accidents as opposed to deliberate malicious intent.
  25. Right, that's absolutely fair. Does make me wonder if NUNS Marines doing regular garrison work is somewhat common, or that can be filled by any branch of the New UN military. Speaking of Zentradi-only affairs, I wonder when and why mostly/only Zentrad colony fleets and planets came to be. Not from the anti-Earth Zentradi emigrant ships that peaced out in 2031, but talking more in lines like the Macross 5 fleet. It'd be less conspicuous if they were just coincidences, since it's not a stretch at all to assume there's a lot more human-only colonies in the galaxy. But considering there's specifically Zentradi tailored variable craft and ships at a point Overtechnology was being utilized everywhere by the 2nd generation Valkyries, it just makes me curious to think why they're made to be so obvious. It does feel like the other single-biome planets like Varauta IV, Gallia IV, and the other icy-planet in 7 seem like the exceptions to the rule; at least in the sense of that they're breathable but not exactly habitable per se. It would make sense, considering the desert and ocean (as Eden and Ragna shows) that it's the best place to begin a colony.
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