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Sorry for the impression. Nope, I'm not riled. Cool as a cucumber. Thanks for the answers, though.

So the criterion for inclusion in DW is whether it's canon or not? What about the Advanced Valkyrie stuff? Isn't some of that non-canon? Is it in DW?

That's a good point, but are the VF's from Macross II in Design Works? If not, I think we have weak evidence that a Valk makes it into Design Works if and only if it was designed by Kawamori. I.e., not in DW means not by Kawamori.

27.0217%. Total Geek.

Ah, I missed that post. Well, are you sure the credits say that? Could they just be crediting Kawamori for the original Macross concept and/or the original Valkyrie design on which the SOL is based? Because others have commented in this thread that the game was made by BW without SN's input. Notice that the credits for Macross II (shown here) credit Studio Nue even though they didn't do the actual designs.

Well, obviously the cockpit would have to be redesigned. Also, the break between the chestplate and backplate would change--on the 1D it goes straight across, while other valks have a notch under the neck. And there are four black thingies on the chestplate of the VF-1D that I can't identify--are they just painted on, or are they molded panels/vents of some sort? For a preview of what would have to be done, compare the Valkyrie factory pics: http://www.menet.umn.edu/~ngo/vf-1d_ya.html http://www.menet.umn.edu/~ngo/vf-1j_super_...a_battroid.html

Gives a whole new (and wholly unwanted) meaning to the term "holy water".

You nailed it. It's cool, and it's silly. I'm not sure if the gunstraps ever appear in DYRL or any of the sequels/prequels. If not, we can probably assume that Kawamori decided they're sillier than they are cool.

How do you know the VF-1SOL was designed by Kawamori?

What is that, a Frankenstein job? (Kanata67-stein?) Where did the red chest intakes and tailfins come from?

Who are you and what have you done with Agent ONE? Oh, okay. All is right with the world.

As far as I'm concerned the jury's still out regarding M7. Haven't seen enough of it to decide. But I wanted to comment on this bit by Keith: This may be a good way of reconciling something in SDF Macross with M7, but to me it's an unfortunate dilution of one of the best elements of the final episodes of SDFM. Which is that we get to see Kamjin grow from a somewhat comical villain into a complex, sympathetic, almost tragic figure--while still being a bad guy. The scene in question (along with others) shows that he's been partially acculturated, making him immune to "culture shock", but he's so obsessed with destroying the Macross that he doesn't entirely realize he's become a lot like his enemy.

Saw it when it was first on TV. (I was about 14 at the time, so I trust my recollected judgment.) Probably my favorite miniseries, or at least one of my top three. (Roots and Masada being the other candidates.) Basically, although it may be guilty of various historical inaccuracies, I don't think they did anything wrong dramatically/filmically; Chamberlain was fine by me. EXCEPT, I disagree with the decision to leave out translations of dialogue which is occurring out of earshot of Blackthorne/Anjinsan. If the idea was to show his experience, then they might as well leave those scenes out entirely. If the scenes were worth showing even though he wasn't present, they were worth subtitling. (Somehow I remember that they originally had no explanatory text at all for those scenes, but at some point--maybe in repeat showings--they at least provided a general gloss of what was going on.)

The best translators are the amikai-based ones. Sometimes you even get readable prose out of them, and even if you don't, as long as there's enough text you can often piece the meaning together. Amikai-based translators include ones at nifty.co.jp and excite.co.jp. BTW, Shawn started a thread on this topic a while back. More details there, including some comparison translations.

Tell me more. What is it you don't like about the coloring technique?

10-4...er...I mean roger that!

(Stunned.) You're absolutely right. I'd never thought of it that way for some reason, but if the VF-1D wasn't intended for combat, why would Misa have ordered Hikaru to take off?

Color me surprised. To me, P. Chung is a real original. I love his spindly, pointy character designs, reminiscent of Gothic architecture and armor, and the way people in combat coil and move. I also like the freaky mystical elements of the Reign/Alexander story--which either by accident or because of Chung's treatment remind me of the freaky supernatural stuff in the longer Aeon cartoons. (Aeon first appeared in a series of very short pieces just a few minutes long in which she rarely if ever spoke; later, she was featured in roughly half-hour shows with deeper plots and dialogue.)

Yes, I'm talking about the much-praised clip that shows Skull team taking off from a carrier, after which there's an attack and a beam weapon cuts right through the carrier.

No, a joke would be... "A rabbi, a priest, and a minister wak into a bar, and..." That's a joke. I agree with the general principle, but the VF-1J in GBP gets a lot of screen time in one episode of the TV series.

I wonder what this discussion would be like without all the swearing and name-calling.

I'm pretty far behind the curve anime-wise these days, so I had no idea this existed until I wandered into an episode during Adult Swim and thought, "What are all these freaky superhero guys doing reenacting the Alexander saga? And why do they look like they stepped out of Aeon Flux?" Must say I'm enjoying it. A fascinating reimagining of the story of Alexander the Great. I'm a big fan of Peter Chung's work on Aeon, and I think the dubbing is quite good. In fact, I'm wondering if this might have been conceived as a joint US/Japan release from the start. Also, the overall similarity in feel to Aeon Flux extends beyond the graphic style. Were P. Chung or any of the other Aeon Flux staff also responsible for the story/script in any way?

That's because those weren't AMM-1s. What were they?

Forget the head. Put a bag over it and do your business.

Very nice! But no mention of Max's method of mounting extras on his tailfin (in Blind Game I think it is).