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Yamato's version 2s can take well over a year (Roy VF-0S) or only a few months (1/60 YF-19) or never happen at all. With the Nora scheduled for release we might see some improvements in design right away but that doesn't mean we'll see a new Ivanov right away. Scream Man, don't forget it took a while to find out the 0 had huge shoulder troubles... we might not have seen the last of the SV-51's problems just yet.

Another thing to consider, black shows stress marks REALLY well.

What's with the mega image quote? This would give A7 an aneurism on the spot.

[vent] Okay, so I'm seeing now that the anniversary valks are up for preorder. Has it occurred to anyone else that we're getting completely friggin' ripped off by Yamato (and others) these days? How many people wanna bet the new YF-19 doesn't come with fast packs or a fold drive? Are you still going to spend $200 to get it (after shipping and all that good stuff)? Graham stated that the 1/48 was initially expected to be a very limited scale series featuring only a few extremely popular paint schemes yet the 1/48 VF-1 did not debut with a price tag of $200... it was much closer to $100 (about $130-$150 to get one to the states). So, if the 1/48 was only that much and was only expected to have three or so repaints, and it's clear we're going to get at least that many with the YF-19, why the $50 idiot tax? It doesn't stop there though, even the VF-1 has gone up in price despite the fact that mold was probably profitable five releases ago. Now I know one of my fellow economists is thinking "Dude, it's the value of the Yen to the dollar." Really? If that were true the most expensive point to buy 1/48 VF-1 toys would have been January of 05 and they'd be CHEAPER right now. In fact, our dollar was as strong as the day the first 1/48 was released in recent history (admittedly it has slumped recently... but it's still well above where it was for the majority of 05. It strikes me as terribly odd that this is a board of typically very friendly members yet we haven't been able to do a lot more to save each other money. It also saddens me that when people do go out of there way to try to save people some funds we get members like Agent GHQ trying to ruin it for everyone. I wish Amenbo didn't disappear . [/vent]

Aren't all those things considered fixed as of the fast pack release?

Robotech's The Macross Saga is 90% the same as Macross so you can kind of envision the Macross you know and love as being the starting point here. The biggest difference then is that the Protoculture have been replaced by a group known as The Robotech Masters and the term Protoculture now refers to a biological mega energy source. So yeah, spaceship crashes on Earth, is refurbished and attacked on launch date, folds beyond Pluto, Zents try to capture it instead of destroy it, Zents in-fight, Zents get corrupted by Minmay's singing, Dolza shows up to destroy Earth and all the corrupted Zents, corrupted Zents and SDF-1 win at a huge human cost. Those are the pretty big plot points that likely will receive some serious altering for this movie. My vote is for an unknown fighter to replace the F-14 as the valk's origin, I think it'd be too much a Starscream rip-off at this point to make it too similar to the F-22. Who thinks they opt for "direct mind control" of the mech? Seeing as Robotech already implied this in their novels, I wouldn't be surprised to see the movie go that way.

Yeah, think of it this way, HG owns the right to the show itself and has the ability to sell whatever they want to support that property they own (outside Japan). They do NOT own the rights to the designs though so they can NOT use those designs for anything NEW (video games and comics being excepted, I believe because they can still be considered promotional items for that piece of animation they own).

You would think... but I've seen numerous examples of the yellowing on the CFs (mostly TRU) gear bay doors yellowing, my own included. Other than that though, everything has seemed fine.

I have a few 1/60s and the only one showing yellowing is my TRU CF, it has a couple landing gear doors that just ain't right. Fortunately, I don't do DYRL Paint schemes so that helps limit my losses.

I haven't seen any prices. I can say that the Toynami Beta price was always more of an excuse not to make the product rather than an actual price that they determined. I have no doubt that that toy will cost no where near that amount. Those are the old pics, we know that CMs is currently re-working the toy so there's a chance this looks nothing like the final product. Patience, it's too soon to say whether or not the final product will please or disappoint.

I think you guys are nuts to think Toynami would be involved in any toys for a new Robotech movie. This would be a new project with its own rights that could go to anyone and we know Toynami doesn't have much in the way of production capacity so it seems far fetched to think they'd try. Well, one scenario I suppose would have Toynami and another company getting the rights, that other company would make the common toys while Toynami released "high end collectibles" like another MPC. On another note, it's been a pretty safe bet for the last 10 years that we were never going to have any legitimate Macross products in the US and this doesn't change anything. If HG can't have their hand in the pot, we're not getting Macross items. If people were hoping HG would just vanish then this probably doesn't help there... I'm sure HG stands to make some money off this deal.

I'll be pretty surprised if CMs makes a January release. Originally Toynami said the Cyclones would hit this fall.... I don't see that happening either. The only thing that seems likely is the December MegaHouse release.

I think we can all agree that the licensing issues essentially mean the Macross portion of Robotech will not be much like Macross at all. I don't think we need to worry about if the Regult has enough cool factor... the only things the aliens would likely have in common is their size. The humans may retain their names but I'm guessing we'll lose "Minmay" as a name also and I'd have to guess all the aliens would be due for new names as well (and I'll bet the term "Zentraedi" wouldn't exist either). More realistically, I wonder how long we'll have to wait before determining this will never actually come out.

Holy crap man, I hope you had some wood to knock on whilst typing that DND! That's almost like saying "I've never had a problem with a yamato first edition" as you put in an order for a VF-0S

GCM lends itself remarkably well to a movie because so much of it is disposable (charming... but disposable). If RT is going movie form I'd love to see them treat it like a trilogy with all three parts getting their own movie (but obviously tied much closer together... like have Leonard be Gloval's second in command or something). I'm at work so I can't scan through but I wonder if the thought of this happening was part of the reason Shadow Chronicles was so deliberately vague. Maia is half "alien" because the aliens might all get new names. Earth's history is summed up in 1 minute because the events might be altered.

the 1/60 line, i find, is very prone to yellowing. It's really obvious on the landing gear doors on the legs... it's not at all uncommon to see yellowing there. It's not light or heat though, i've known some well stored ones that came out yellow, it seems that Yamato just had the occasional problem with the plastic which causes some to break down pretty quickly. You can also tell it's not being caused by outside conditions because of how uneven it happens, as redemption has mentioned.

The three on the left are their poseable figures, probably a bit larger to accomodate joints (that don't work).

You can see more pictures of those, and read about them, by clicking HERE. Here's a picture from my review to help you judge how big they are:

Fortunately the most profitable Macross item out there is the VF-1 so there can always be hope for a retooled 1/60 VF-1 in the future. I, for one, would love to see it and I know there have been threads where others made the same claim. It's sad that so many cool toys are getting remarkable 1/60 treatment (although sure, those toys suited them better to 1/60 because of their larger proportions) while the VF-1 got what was clearly a beginner's effort. How cool would it have also been if you could take your 1/60 VF-0S Roy and put him in you 1/60 YF-19 and then put him in your 1/60 VF-1? That's not gonna happen... but it woulda been cool.

Is this like a dating sim? Kinda looks like a reboot of those old Sega CD games where you'd be Sherlock Holmes and just go through pre-ordained paces and hope not to get stuck along the way.

I remember one quote from this movie. There's a hot girl on screen and I believe Ben Stiller is watching her (maybe them) and I think the rest of the crew is wondering what her super power is and Mr.Furious announces "I can feel my pants shrinking!" Okay, my memory may be horrible, but I swear that line is in this movie and I found it hilarious. The rest of the movie? I thought it was TERRIBLE. I saw it in the theater 'cause I figured with that cast it'd have to have some good teenage comedy in it... I remember feeling that I had been wrong.

Here's how I understand, everyone correct me where I'm wrong: 1) VEFR-1 "Funny Chinese" was probably an attempt to replace the "sitting duck" Cat's Eye. Everything not essential was stripped and replaced with sensory equipment. Since it wasn't going to engage the enemy, just run from it, no attempt was made to give it a functional battroid mode. 2) I'm not sure when the VT-1 came into existence but it obviously leant itself better to the recon mode than the "Funny Chinese" craft. It could be adapted into a VE-1, packed with all the sensory equipment without the need to forego any of the VT-1 features (not specific to training). This also meant the VE-1 could theoretically be armed if a situation ever arose that was so dire it required it.

Haven't those two planes affectionately been named the "Dark Birds." Can't really call them "Stealth" any more since Yamato has given us a "Stealth" paint scheme and those planes are different from it. I think we see them again later when gravity is lost at some point and it shows them banging around in a hangar.

For the record, I love the VF-4 in fighter mode but I think all other modes look... forced. I honestly feel exactly the same way about the SV-51 but it's starting to grow on me in the other modes so maybe the VF-4 would do the same thing. Hey, what do you think are the odds Yamato will use DYRL's 25th anniversary to rethink the 1/48 VT/VE-1 situation??? For anyone who is upset about the tampo on the VF-1 and were hoping to get something equivalent to the credit card valks, why not just buy a VF-1J stealth and strip the gray paint? Should be an easy procedure. You don't really have a choice on the YF-19 though.

Some thoughts of what should have happened: 1) Yamato should have saved the AngelBirds paint scheme for the 25th anniversary. It's an odd duck that didn't sell well but if it were limited and included a "25th Anniversary" decal (or several) I think people would have been pretty thrilled. Sure, lots of people hate the AngelBirds but at least the fact it's a canon paint scheme should reduce some of the unhappiness. Also, we never see a VF-19A in the AngelBirds paint scheme but it's not much of a leap to suppose one should exist. Do the same thing with that, include the 25th anniversary decal, and it'd probably go over relatively well, although probably not as well as the VF-1A Angelbird. 2) Yamato should have made the Engima scheme paint jobs. For the VF-1, it makes too much sense at this point since it'd go PERFECTLY with the Urban GBP. Plus, it's just a bad-butt scheme so it'd probably look great on a YF-19 (and it'd leave the door open for an Engima VF-0A/S further down the road. I'm pretty sure they didn't want to do a potentially successful paint job as a one off though and I'm sure the initial thought was they wanted something High Vis, not Low Vis, as evidenced by those horrible gaudy prototypes we saw.