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Graham is our main source of info though. It would be good if there was a yamato section of the forum for an official yamato rep to post in for news. (like a locked thread which doesn't allow responses) Seems a little silly to bother graham each time we want some info or updates. And it comes off as being annoying to you, but remember too that people genuinely want to know stuff not to whine. Legit need for info shouldn't be lumped in with the people who whine about tiny *nitpicky stuff. *what constitutes "nitpick" and "major" concern will of course vary with person to person. (hello BoB!) But don't put us all in the same category. Even people who are happy with their yamato may want updates.

Easy. When the aliens use their laser beams to burn the target the light gets reflected back or to the sides lessening damage. Its like the anti-beam coating you get in the gundam mecha universe. If they don't keep the special coating reflective the mecha will take more damage. The candy colors are to stay hidden in the anime world. Since everyone is colored in cartoony primary colors the mecha have to be as well to camouflage them. Red hides the mecha on mars, blue for sea missions launched from a sub, and green is for the army. These are my bullshit explanations, to help cope with the colorful robots I have displayed which reminds me of a 2 year old's playground and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Looks good. Can the figure support the weight of the stuff hanging off the back?

Imagine if the terminatrix was the good guy in t3 and conner took advantage of her as his sex buddy and forced to follow his orders because he is john conner the leader, and since she must follow her prgramming she couldn't go against it. I'm pretty sick, I know.

They look more colorful, like candies. Thanks for the pics. Still going to wait and see. Durability is going to be important as is the arms' ability to hold poses with the gun in hand. Toynami Alphas were improvements in durability to vf-1 mpc, so if these are slightly better in durability again, it will as least be a gradual improvement. They should do the clawed, black one too.

I want capcom to make the videogames on it. And it will all be done in a 2d hand drawn and hand animated sprites. "Predator vs aliens vs terminator" The predator would be a little like wolverine in the x-men fighting game, terminator would be slow with ranged attacks (like the cyborg in street fighter 3 but with guns) and the alien would be like Strider from marvel vs capcom. (really fast and quick and button-mash abusive, with high agility, super jumps, wall jumps and triple jumps to psyche out the opponent) A random Colonial Marine could be there somewhere as an android version who you can tag in using the powerloader. It would be the ultimate fanboy wish, like what marvel ultimate alliance is for fans of the comic characters. If they made a movie out of it, it would probably be pg13 and try to tone down the horror for little kids, so maybe they could just use cg like final fantasy movies always do and focus on fights. (did anyone see that master chief vs samas Aran cg movie? Yeah the whole thing would be full of fighting scene after fighting scene like that. fart story, it's the fight pron we want to see. )

To the guy who bought jazz but didn't like it, maybe you could cash in and sell him to people who can't find it yet? "Jazz Limited edition low visibility paint scheme" as not seen in G1.

Well they could do a movie where the terminators actually win and finally kill all humans and have the future be set. Then they get bored as robots and realise they can't experience love and decide to clone humans and remake the world, being the gods of the humans. Sounds like something from some japanese square-enix RPG. The terminators could have gladiatorial fights to entertain themselves and stuff and base their civilisation on humans, but thousands of years later realise their existence is pointless or something. After making humans, the machines decide to protect humans like an endangered species of animal. Eventually aliens invade and try to destroy both the terminators and humans putting them both into slavery. The machines then create robots that look just like the aliens and copy the aliens' technology and disguise themselves as aliens by making alien cyborgs. The series of movies would eventually go into space where the terminators decide to conquer the galaxy and each alien race has to defend itself from the machines. Originally invented by humans who were too weak to fight them. Then the terminators encounter the aliens from the "alien" movies. They both respect each other for surviving so long and not being able to be truly killed from sequel to sequel of each movie and form an alliance. The aliens get angry one day because the terminators killed off all their food supply that they needed to feed to thier children and are overpopulated and running out of things to impregnate. Terminators decide to terminate the aliens but their acid blood eventually proves too much a threat to the machines to live with, so they engage in a huge war that lasts for 1000s of years which hollywood can make hundreds of sequels about. The predators which have been invisible throughout all the movies, gets pissed at both of them and starts a campaign to kill both the terminators and aliens by using their superior hunting skills and high tech blades that cut through anything. And finally that is the end of the terminator, predator and alien sagas. The few cloned humans eventually try to clone some of the aliens and remake robots to rule again, and the predators let them do this to allow them to hunt something once in a while as they sometimes get bored of all the things they kill that require them to handicap themselves with primitive gear due to none of them being a big enough challenge to their superior fighting abilities. (deaths from hunting help to weed out the weak from the strong, sorta like the spartans euthanising their own skinny babies to keep the bloodline strong. After all what good is being a warrior if there's nothing to war against and sharpen skills?)

Maybe they use use sophisticated holograms, and only the audience can see the imperfections because we know they are disguised robots. Sort of like how in cartoons when they have an invisible character we can see the outline of the person when we shouldn't if they were really invisible. So which toys are worth getting? So far the only one that looks interesting to me is jazz. I think movie Star scream looks too short and dwarvish in robot mode and the guns are too oversized. Why do today's robots have to have massive weapons that would be so heavy that it would probably put them off balance to try to hold properly? I hope the autobots get jetfire in the second movie. That way we can finally have a macross style valkyrie with fighter gerwalk and robot modes in a movie with realistic cg fx. Forget macross zero dogfights. Jetfire vs starscream dogfights is what I want. Think about it: lots of mid air transformations, circle-strafing, ducking and rolling between buildings like macross plus, close quarters combat with maybe one dying dramatically. (Jetfire should "die" just like he was supposed to in the original tv series where he gets buried and the autobots don't even bother to dig him up to see if he is still alive )

What if the toys could come to *life? Would you dump your GF over a female figure of your fave anime character? *sort of like that nerd movie "Wierd science" where the girl in the magazine becomes real but it's your toys. "Milia don't put those shiny objects in the microwave and blow up my kitchen!" I can see some drawbacks!

For me it's battroid mode on the stand. Looks so evil in that mode. The intakes don't bother me much in fighter, just like to have battroid modes displayed with the exception of the VB-6 monster. If the anti-un won, all the future VFs would look like human-chicken hybrids. Maybe they could do a marvel comics thing and make an alternate universe story where the un lose to the anti-un and have to fight the aliens? just kidding.

any info on FP for 1/100? I am now ready to buy a 1/100 vf-1j. This will show my support for toynamis macross stuff. I'm hoping they don't just abandon the FP altogether due to perceived lack of interest. I haven't actually bought a single toynami thing yet. Almost considered getting the MPC vf-1 when I first came to the boards though. Maybe they should redo the toynami alpha as the "mospeada legioss" (with all new box and everything, and proper naming of characters) and have all the improvements in it? Robotech fans can't complain since it is a "Mospeada" toy for US fans of the japanese show. Not for fans of robotech. Two totally different things.

Will revoltech ever make non-transforming mecha from macross. I think if fans all bothered them for it, maybe it will come about someday? For me if the transforming valk can't transform I'm not going to be interested in it as it is just a super posable figure. But for all the non-transforming stuff like the monster, glaug, regult, spartan, tomahawk, qrau, zentradi male power armor, I'd be very happy to see. I want a small qrau to pose doing all kinds of cool actions. It's one of the more agile mecha in the series so it would be perfect. It needs bendy legs for crouching.

Pics of the sv-51 looks great. Looks menacing in black. I wonder how heavy this will be? Will the joints be tight (not to the point of cracking something hopefully) and rely on friction or be clicky? Skinny robots always make me worry. I'm going to be extra careful with transforming this.

I wish jazz didn't have the big empty space in his arm. Otherwise I like his design.

Well the only time I want to see a naked terminator walking around in the daylight (not bothering to seek cover or trying to be stealthy), is when it is the result of some kind of battle damage where the human disguise is wearing off or slowly decaying and it as a robot decided it no longer cares if people recognise it as a robot anymore given the circumstances. (ie being detected, having the dogs alert everyone, or generally having mechanical parts hanging out with sparks and stuff coming out of it) Just don't make them these indestructible tanks that can survive a rocket to the face. Don't make them into mindless monsters. Make the drones or the HKs like that. I think the general idea is as they were getting more advanced, the machines had to be more creative and then used stealth to "hunt" the hiding humans. I get the impression that it wasn't like the humans were a match for them toe to toe since robots/cyborgs are tougher than weak flesh and blood humans. More like the humans were the guys in the concentration camps slowly becoming extinct and losing, and not really powerful enough to fight them unless this great leader had showed them how to beat the robots through some knowledge of the robots' way of thinking (like seeing all the tricks it is capable of when he was a kid) and the weaknesses to exploit. Robots don't have to eat. They can run 24/7, never complain, don't let emotions get in the way, and when one dies, so what? It's a mass produced thing that can be rebuilt, so it can go on a suicide mission without any problem or counting as a huge loss. Humans are less accurate, have less "armor", get tired and fatigued, have less strength, take ages to train, and they might not fight as fiercely if they get scared or believe they are going to lose which may affect their attitude and bring down performance. If a human dies so do the unique skills, knowledge and experience. Machines have the upper hand when it comes to killing since they are the very weapons the humans themselves made to make themselves more sophisticated at killing. It would be interesting though to see if humans build their own *robots that are like mecha which are manually controlled to help combat the terminators. Like the power loader in aliens with guns on it or something or those ones in the later matrix movies.. No reason they can't make their own primitive form of powered armor is there? *not really robots then. More like vehicles like a car that needs guiding, but with robot limbs and no robot brain.

Ok but the sneakiness of the terminator coming from out of the shadows is what I liked so much about no.1 It's just Reese and the assassin. So if John is to outsmart these machines he can't just rely on firepower alone. He has to maybe capture some, study it, hack them, (just like young conner did with the ATM using an atari console ) hide from them, use more scientific ways of avoiding their sensors and learn some weaknesses of the machines. (maybe even show how their own heavy weight could be used against them and set traps for the machines that they could not have planned for since it is not within their logic to think up because the idea is unique to humans) So it's like instead of the humans just fighting them head on in the daylight, and the terminators marching towards them in plain sight as naked robots, they have to sneak in the nighttime, (using whatever scanners or intelligence they have on them) bomb the treads of the HK, and slowly think like the terminators by looking for weak points. And the terminators start to study us and think like us, trying to copy our tactics and adapting. Not just mere machines are what make them scary, but the threat of the AI actually getting smarter and smarter and more advanced as time goes on and learning from mistakes through studying human behaviour. Like HAL but for the terminator universe. Remember that scene when arnie uses a voicechanger to trick sarah into thinking she was talking to her mom? That's what I mean about cunning. In the sequels they had the same trick, but it seemed the focus was on just firepower and getting more armor and more indestructible. (ie the bit in t3 when the terminatrix survives the rpg) So it was just like watching a brawl of two people exchanging blows until someone is too tired to fight. Not an intelligent movie where one guy is trying to outsmart the other and paranoid that the robots will read his thought and be one step ahead. (unlike horror movies these robot monsters are smart. Normal monsters aren't - they can just take a lot of damage) Hopefully in the future they will bring back some of the post apoc feel of the original where people are on the brink of extinction and the cyborg is like some mass murderer that comes out of nowhere for surprise kills carefully planning how to best wipe out the human based on what it thinks we behave like. Not just act typically "robotic". Even the aliens in alien movies found unique ways of escaping capture and they are just animals. In a way it reminds me of what made the Raptors in jurrassic park so menacing because they can work in packs like cunning wolves to best survive. If the terminator networked their brains to share info to make more smart decisions that would make them deadly in a cunning way, where the efficiency of machines can best be shown, not just as a monster with lots of physical power. Merely making them stronger just goes down the dragon ball z path of repeating things at higher levels, like a videogame where you fight more healthy boss/leader. That's where the risk of people getting tired of the movies is, where they can predict what is going to happen due to repetition and then predict the pattern. In summary what I want to see more of is the "thriller" part of the series to return, and combine that with the action part. But not have one be sacrificed completely for the other.

The monster kicks ass but mine is a bit loose in the swivel in the elbow. Clicky joints would have been good. I have left mine in gerwalk for months. That is the coolest mode for me. Still need to apply the stickers though. It kind of looks skinny when you look at it from the front, head on. But if you put it at an angle it looks beefy. That probably is the effect of needing to fly around and being transformable though. I hope the monster makes an appearance in the new macross tv series? Variable Glaug and Variable Monster would be great to see as new toys: 2 chicken-legged mecha that are not Variable fighters. Not that my wallet is quite ready for it yet, but I want to add the Variable glaug to the yamato wish list.

Women can treat men like pets on a leash that need to be trained, and act as a controlling mother telling you to pack your toys away and clean you room. Men can treat women like sex slaves for pleasure like a toy. It's pretty equal. There are bad women, and good women. Bad men and good men. Just blame the person not the whole sex. Its all about the "desperation level" of the individual really. Everyone has different priorities. Some will hate control freaks, others will want stability in a partner that takes charge of things and gives them orders. What's good for one might not be good for another based on what you find important. Maybe its just that people have different taste so they might think that a person who wants to make the room look all feminine is "controlling them" when the intention is to just arrange it to make it look pretty, not to piss you off and show power over you. Having control, and "who has the power? who is the boss?" might not be the real issue, it's just that two different people with different tastes clash.

heh I guess I just don't want to see terminator turn into a bright science fiction movie when the original was so dark. Lots of shadow, 2 stalkers coming from out of nowhere to get to someone, cops trying to catch this mysterious phonebook murderer. etc. Sarah's own friends being brutally killed. There is some suspense too, not just explosions. Now when you watch 3: the future is well lit, the robots are lined up in easy sight so you can see them marching towards the humans to kill them: their metallic bodies shining in the light. Obvious that they are coming towards to use brute force to take on the humans. Not the same as the first. The first was dark and gritty, shadows everywhere, robots trying to sneak around as if they were one of us, and not naked with their robot parts showing for all to see. An assassin could pop out of the shadows and strike at any time to kill looking just like humans. All you have is a dog to bark as an alert and even then how do you know which person is the terminator? The robots weren't typical in that they'd take the most direct route, but you could sense that they were cunning and have knowledge of us humans and study us and copy us, and ambush. They had plans on how to trap and trick people. As the franchise went on the machines lost the "element of surprise" that I liked, (trying to "be" one of the humans and learn thier tricks) and they were just human tanks that got stronger and stronger but not necessarily trickier or more cunning as they hunted.

I think it would have been better if they were conscious of the disease inside them and that they should bite intentionally knowing that it will convert the victim to their cause. Nothing scarier than zombies that can think and plan. Seems that zombies are becoming faster and smarter these days! The next step in zombie evolution: zombies that are able to group together as a team to raid towns and create an undead (or in this case living) army to take over the world and form a zombie empire.

One of the faces reminds me of the quintessons. They had some pretty menacing looking faces. lol If you combine all these robots together they form the ultimate disguise: the junk yard. It will be hard to make out who is who in a cluttered scene with fights between two robots. Ah no wonder I love G1 so much. It's easy to see who is who thanks to the colors being simple primary colours.

Terminator always needed a story that fleshes out what happens in the "real" future imo. As a fan I would like to see a whole movie dedicated to the war itself not on current day conner. So long as the humans have the tech, they will eventually be tempted to use the robots for themselves for defense and end up coming to the same conclusion: the machines go out of control and decide they should terminate humans. I hope they put as little humor in the next movie as possible and focus on the sufferring you see in the first movie. Post apoc setting with humans eating rats to survive, and disguised terminators with rubber skin (early versions before they used realistic "smelly breath" models) disguised to infiltrate the bases to kill as many people as possible. Characters should be ultra paranoid of each other (suspecting each one of potentially being a machine underneath) they would have to use lots of sniffer dogs to sniff people before coming in to the base, and it's should feel like a survival movie. (enemy out numbers and overpowers and people have poo weapons to fight with and have to hide and stuff - go back to the roots of what made the original machine so scary and unstoppable) Honestly after seeing 3 I think it would be ok to have some new person fill the role of the terminator. The thing is I always thought arnie was more powerful as a bad guy with no emotion than a good guy helping people, learning to smile, or making wisecracks in no.3. Without the fear, it loses the horror angle of the machine being this thing with only one thing on its mind. If they humanise the machine too much like they tried to in no.2, you end up feeling sorry for it even though it was designed to kill you. That's a bit sick imo. Like the girl in the patlabor anime who is in love with her ingram because its like a pet had, or the kids in the gundam wing anime who talk to their robots as if they weren't just these killing machines out to destroy. Come on it's a sophisticated killing machine built by power hungry humans to make killing easy, not a kids toy. Death, suffering, horror should come back. Less humor, less trying to make the machine nice, and less generic action. More suspense, paranoia, fear, and uncertainty. Now that conner lived, he should be twice as good as the original conner that sent kyle back to save his mom. Because now he knows what is coming and has the training. Hopefully they toughen up the character and make him totally dependant on his skills like he means to win, as opposed to noob still trying to come to the realisation that : "omg, its actually true. mom wasn't crazy." That's what 3 was for. No more mouth agape expressions, just show us this great leader who finds out what to do and how to kill them easily. The theme should be about the hunted becoming the hunter. As these machines become more realistic, it should show how humans slowly find new ways of spotting differences between humans and machines and the focus is on "who can be trusted? How do you know if one of the soldiers isn't a terminator amoungst you biding its time to get at the leader?" And then go into the little details of why is conner so important to the fight against the machines. Perhaps his death is inevitable, but so long as he can keep sending back Kyle Reeses in the past to warn current day humans of the imminent future they can keep the war going on and postpone the inevitable for indefinite amounts of time instead and at least saving the people who live in the past so the future can still exist? As opposed to no future at all and no fight? Maybe they could change the theme back to the "future IS set", but how it gets to become this way is based on what we do now. If more leaders like John Conner were around in the current day who listened to the messenger, you could avoid the rise of the robots in the future rather than having to fight against them. They may be virtually unstoppable but better to stand and fight and not let them have their way than to succeed in taking the past too. John HAD to die to remind the soldiers of the future why there needs to be people like him to lead. Kill him and so long as his spirit lives on amoung all the other soldiers to keep going, then eventually another new leader can arise. I think the whole emphasis should be on allowing others to follow in conner's footsteps to lead the resistance instead of just relying on john. Let john die, lets us weep, let us see the doom of the machines taking control for a while and allow some other character to survive it and use all the teachings and training of the leader to survive the holocaust. So the machines end up getting the future that was predicted but a soldier IN the future finds new ways to continue on from where john left off after being motivated from conner's inevitable death. That way the fight can continue on in the future and they can have a series of movies dedicated to show a long drawn out war in the future. 3 movies already in the present. 3 in the future. All the latter shows the gradual progression and evolution of the machines as they get more sophisticated: from the gundam-guntank types, to drones, to rubber skin model, to realistic skin model, to morphing ones and then to hybrids of morphing and solid ones. Maybe have one elite model that is completely humanoid brain, and so sophisticated that the sniffer dogs don't know the difference? And that one is what studies the humans and gathers the info about us that allows for the machines to gain a major advantage and beat the leader. (since john may not have been warned about those models in time to be able to prepare) But the whole movie isn't as simple as humans fighting robots, it's the paranoia of not being able to detect which one amoungst them IS the terminator, and not wanting to tip that terminator off by letting it know that you know its there amongst you. The first movie was good the way it was a chase and survival and not just action. Instead of having kyle be the bodyguard of sarah, the future movies can show a new character entrusted to guard future conner and be just as paranoid and uneasy abou his safety the way his mom was. Only to witness the death and become the next leader to allow the war to continue after his death.

The two challenges of making a live action movie were going to be: the mass shifting and the "where does the guy's gun/prime's trailer go when transforming?" problem. This is one of the reasons why I had always like the autobots more than the decepticons since they as cars would be ok. But when you get into the cassette tape players and jets and pistols, you run into the scale problem. (starscream would easily be able to kick megatron's but if he just stayed in fighter jet mode!) One of the things about the toys is they are never to scale. Unless they add some kind of magic that allows for character to individually grow or shrink (ie like the hulk movie) it's not going to be *believable. But having said that they could work it into the story and have various rules that explain why it was possible. The makers of each bot gave the robots the powers (so they are not just robots but super robots ) which allowed them to do what they do at will. Sorta like x-men with thier abilities. So a character like Skywarp could do his teleportation like nightcrawler while a dinobot could just be like the hulk: super strength, not just for his size but for ANY robot. (explains how someone like him who is average size in robot form could have a strength of 10 along with some of the super sized robots) So if they made the transformers more like superheroes with powers it might be more easy for people to accept. Grimlock becomes like the movie hulk and similarly megatron gets to be a mass shifting pistol. I think they could have made a whole movie about alternators. Each bot is forced to only be the size of the things alt mode. Then have these alternators understand flight which is discovered through reverse engineering the more advanced decepticons, the autobots then use that to invent more sophisticated versions of their own weapons and integrate that into their body (remember the dinobots could fly) as they catch up to the enemy. I've just been watching the cartoon again and it explains that the decepticons were "a new type of robot that could fly." (one of the eps in five faces of darkness) That means decepticons are like the newer more advanced ones. They got super powers and generally more advanced while the autobots have to make do with what they have or catch up to them. After discovering antigravity, they learn new ways of getting portions of themselves from one place to another (info gathered from skywarp's teleporting powers and technology from the space bridge as seen in the cartoon when megatron is trying to get the energon supplies to cybertron) and this helps them deal with guns coming from one place to another whenever they transform into robot modes. Basically they miniturise technology from the space bridge (I know it probably doesn't existin the LA movie) into their robot mode or some kind of a teleportation machine or "warp gate" is responsible for doing this for them at their base which tracks the location of where they are at all times. This teleportation is all automated of course so that when any robot that is tracked by the teleporting machine, senses a robot transforming, it just uses the info from their location to help bend space to shift all the weapons and stuff to the location of the robot. So you could say they had advanced to a level where the teleporting of guns are triggered automatically when the devices they have integrated into their body send a signal to whatever machine knows their location, to teleport all the extra parts at the spot near where they are standing. That includes large objects and small stuff required. Problem is that nothing is perfect and it might be too expensive for the robots to rely upon so only a few key robots which the machine is is familiar with get items shifted to them properly. (instead of things getting teleported out in the middle of nowhere) It might just be "magical" warp where the machine tracks the spirit or soulspark of the robot or something.. This could also be used to explain the size of robots growing and shrinking while transforming. So when Starscream grows into a jet, he is doing a combination of teleporting all the materials he needs into the location they need to be and glueing or morphing what is already there to the extra just-teleported parts to make his jet mode. When he goes into robot mode he is normal sized. So in transformation: he does a tiny little jet fighter which morphs into a normal sized one. Two forms of transformation: one is the mechanical one and the other is the teleporting of bits which fuse to his body and allow him to gradually stretch and grow into a bigger object. (the same way that rodimus can have a razor blade in his forearm and a hand in the same spot in the toon) Later when they discover they can abuse this: insecticons are introduced which eat the energy and use it to create the clones you see so they can then infest planets for easy takeover later by the decepticons. All the energy they consume is used to mass clone other versions of themselves which then know where to go by message sent by the original insects. So all the insect like looking robots you see, only look that way as that was the original purpose of the first decepticons: instead of fighting the people on each planet they could just send these insects to breed and infest, which would consume and destroy the existing native lifeforms of the planet. It would be more energy efficient to use the existing planets resources to do the work instead of using energy from planet cybertron which is running low on energy. They eventually made the insects bigger and stronger over time and the insects could "grow" and become larger. Essentially the insecticons would play the "alien as a bioweapon" that you see in the movie "Aliens". Again the decepticons are the main problem since the car robots are "less advanced" and don't need as much shifting of mass. Just say that the "military" robots (decepticons) were generally the first to get all the experimental new "powers" since they had a more crucual role of defense and so needed them, while the "consumer products" (autobots) got those later on as they fought as resistance fighters trying to steal the tech from the bad guys who had a head start in the war. (the only thing going for them being the robot developed by alpha trion (optimus prime) which was custom designed to be a battle robot after it got destroyed by megatron when prime was still a teenager robot called "Orion Pax".) Although prime is just a truck, in the origin story of the cartoon alpha trion made optimus battle-hardy. So really each robot is more than the vehicle it represents. The vehicle's alt modes were originally the disguise mode, but also served as useful modes in time. A fighter that is also a robot isn't just a fighter jet when in jet mode, but something more. A truck that is a robot is more than just a truck. Those disguises don't actually limit what the robot does while in vehicle mode. So they could say that megatron isn't powerful because of physical strength but more because of some kind of gift given to him when "born/made". Like how some guys have teleportation, others have speed, some have super strength, intelligence etc. that is unique to that person. Comics and cartoons can get away with it because they make up a lot of make believe rules for how things began. Once you introduce these make believe rules it makes it more believable. Maybe not "realistic" but believable enough for a comic book crowd. *as in people asking "where does stuff go?"

So will all the plastic be changed to something more strong? And what about the hands? Will these be easy to break? I remmeber people saying that those fingers are really delicate. I'm planning on getting a garland when all the new ones with shoulder fixes are released. So I tend to want news on the durability of these things since I am a fan of the mecha but scared of the QC. (only thing holding back on purchases) Hopefully it doesn't turn out to be a case that early releases have big flaws that later releases don't which means people end up waiting until the problems are fixed for ages. (get it right first time)