Shaggydog

huh? But you compared it on the toys section didn't you? http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/toys/y...-comparison.htm 424256[/snapback] I hadn't seen this before. I respect Graham for putting all the facts out there, as he always does (when he can). But the Yamato lineart sure doesn't come off too well there, does it? It looks pretty squat and ugly compared to the other three from the side. For now I'll just take his word that the final toy will be better.

Well, personally, I'd say the burden of proof falls more heavily on someone who would make the affirmative claim that concerns about HG's license did influence Yamato's vf-1a head design. The negative claim (that such concerns did not play a role) would be the default assumption. For example, if I suggested that random electrical discharges in the Crab nebula influenced the HG-bashing sentiment on this bbs, and you countered that they did not, the onus would clearly be on me to establish that they did, since that claim is so obviously improbable. The same is true here. I am forced to say 'someone' in my first sentence because you don't have the balls to decide if you're going to back that affirmative claim or not, but instead use innuendo to put the idea out there, and then swipe at those who pooh-pooh it. (note the little smiley, which makes it all a joke!)

How does THAT work? Like HG's Disasterpeice stuff looks any closer to the TV A head then the 1/48 DYRL head? 421791[/snapback] that toynami can't even rip off better designs well has nothing to do with yamato not wanting to get into a legal battle with HG. 421882[/snapback] This is such classic MW. Something that clearly had nothing whatsoever to do with HG/Toynami, and yet somehow they get blamed. I'm waiting for the thread where you prove HG was on the grassy knoll...

I keep thinking there's actual news or new pix in this thread. Instead I find out that the vf-19 is 70% different than the yf-19.

Yeah, Toynami SUCKS!!!

Sorry, that's bullshit. The MPCs had one great thing going for them: you could play with them, pose them, transform them, no problems. The 1/60's would shed legs if you looked at them wrong, and flop over backwards if there was a slight breeze. Trying to get the chest plate to lock down in battroid took more time and patience than picking a good lock. Originality is great, but only if the design works. Speaking as an engineer, there's no pride in creating an original design if it turns out to be inferior. Of course, if your only concern is how a toy looks, not how it plays, then sure, the 1/60's have the edge. Otherwise, the MPCs had em beat hands down, and those who disagree either didn't buy one, or let groupthink make up their minds for them. There, I've let myself be pulled back in again. I'm getting dumber as I get older.

I don't wanna get into this crappy mess again because I'm sick of fighting it, but I'm glad someone is finally acknowledging that the MPC valks were superior to the 1/60 Yamato vf-1's. In fact, the MPC valks were really great toys, at the end of the day. Very few quality problems. It's just that people came to them with a lot of resentment over the legal issues and didn't give them a fair shot. It's a shame that toynami took a step backwards with the Alpha toys, which are admittedly pretty bad in a lot of ways (good looking in battroid mode, tho).

The old 1/72 actually looks good to me in those pix, although the 1/60 is more 'accurate' I guess (and the construction of the 1/72 left something to be desired). I like the new 1/60 toy. I think it does look a bit fat in the rear, but I don't think that has to do with the wings, it's just that the rear is a little fat. Maybe battroid mode requires it. I suppose the wings could stand to be a bit skinnier, but I don't really think the wings are a problem. And if it transforms as nicely as the vf-0s, I'll be one happy mf.

Fort Max, where did you buy your Garland?

Sounds like it's a statistically small number of defective bars, like Graham said, and NOT an issue of using excessive force. Time will tell. For myself, I don't like reading the instructions on transforming a toy. I think of a transforming toy as a puzzle, and part of the fun is figuring out how to do it. For that reason, I like transforming toys where you can 'tell' if you're doing it right, and I abhor transforming toys that break if you do one step slightly wrong. Garland is a pretty good toy by these standards. But speaking of this, wouldn't it be easier for Yamato to just slightly redesign the dumb backpack flap on the vf-0s to allow it to fold, rather than insulting their customers as Graham's sig suggests? That's a classic case of something that *seems* like you should be able to do (fold it up), but if you do it, it breaks. IMO, that's poor design. Actions that will break a toy should be 'obviously wrong'.

Great news. And here I thought I was done with Macross. Yamato keeps finding a way to pull me back in..

While they are not meant to be played with in the way that say a 5 year old plays with his toys, they are meant to be strong enough that an adult collector can repeatedly transform and repose the toy without having to fear breakage through normal and careful daily handling and transformation. Graham 409751[/snapback] Yeah, I remember some idiot SW guru making a point similar to Hikuro's (in regards to the Sideshow Anakin, I believe) and I'm glad people around here aren't buying it. If I'm paying 100+ for a transforming toy, I'd better damn well be able to transform it, and not in sheer terror. That said, reports of this breakage aren't really widespread, so we can hope that these incidents are isolated. Gives you some perspective when it happens to you, don't it?

Well, that's quite the clever reply But, of course, it was your bad taste I was referring to, and the suffering you will undergo as a consequence. Sucks to be you!

Those with bad taste deserve to suffer

I'm with Graham on this one. The VF-17's are great toys. I never got a gold/chrome version, but I did get a gold version of one of the DX V gundams (which I believe were made by the same people around the same time), and I wasn't very impressed. I'd go with the normal colored version.

hee hee

Well, Yamato clearly ripped off Toynami's idea for the leg armor in their latest valkyrie toy (the vf-0s), so that tells you something. I've heard some people here loudly deny this fact, but they haven't produced anything resembling good evidence, and the resemblance between the two is so obvious that you'd have to be a rabid Yamato partisan not to concede it.

How do you photographically confirm the magnet polarity being reversed, genius?

Hey, that's an UNCONFIRMED problem, since you didn't present photo evidence (sarcasm, for the tone deaf)

Not sure if you've seen these. I give them the thumbs down, personally. Thanks to zipa.

My sooper-sekrit source sez the new low-viz will definitely be a different version than the previously-released limited version. Then again, nothing is for sure 'til you hold it in your hot lil' hands.

http://www.zincpanic.com/view_article.phtml?id=25292 I don't know if it's a vf-1a again or not (yet).

With all these rude 'requests', I'd refuse to take any pictures, on principle. Then again, I'm a crotchety old bastard.

Woops, sorry, didn't mean to bash a fellow toynami vf-1 fan. The links to the reviews are certainly useful. The only thing I'm trying to say is, I wouldn't be totally confident that this toy won't suck. Takara is good, but even the big boys screw up toys once in a while. I've seen a lot of exkaizer pictorials, it certainly looks good in pix.

It's interesting to me that when someone asks for opinions from people who own a certain toy, there are always people who don't own the toy who will respond anyways, with fully-formed opinions based on next to nothing. Oddly, those people are also the ones who bash toynami the most. Takara has a mixed track record. They have screwed up many toys, in addition to producing many great toys. Regarding King Exkaizer, there have been positive comments about the engineering of this toy, but also negative comments about the tininess of exkaizer and chrome flaking. When mine arrives from hlj, I'll let ya know what I think.