Aurel Tristen Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 I present to you, my fellow fans, The Super Macross (Super Attack-Type), from the people who later formed studio GAINAX. Enjoy: http://www.macrossmecha.info/joke/super_macross.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaramu Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Hehe! Cool! Thanks! It was the Daicon IV animation piece that got me into anime and ELO when I was a wee lad. That and BGC and Project Ako! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neova Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 (edited) That is WAY cool! Thanks Nanashi! PS: What does the text say? Can someone translate? My Japanese is way rusty... Edited June 1, 2004 by Neova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Now that's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechamaniac Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Yeah, that's pretty neat!. Arigato Nanashi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikuro Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 (edited) The first thing that came to mind when seeing that, "OH NO CAPTAIN HARLOCK! WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?!" Another thought that comes to mind is "dear god, I don't think anyone would like having their ship rammed by an air craft carrier withah giant Fin skull on the front." But I think the japanese says, "Make skull bigger" Edited June 1, 2004 by Hikuro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 (edited) The ultimate crossover! Now imagine a TV series running around this one Edited June 1, 2004 by Boxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Tristen Posted June 1, 2004 Author Share Posted June 1, 2004 Hehe! Cool! Thanks!It was the Daicon IV animation piece that got me into anime and ELO when I was a wee lad. That and BGC and Project Ako! Yes I agree, DAICON and ELO rule! ^o^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF18 Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 I always think that in Super Robot War Alpha, they should just attach the White Base to Macross once it become obsolete. Double front door = double fire power compare to Daedalus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JELEINEN Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Very nice, Nanashi. Do you have the picture of the VF-1 pulling the beam saber out of its head as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Tristen Posted June 2, 2004 Author Share Posted June 2, 2004 Very nice, Nanashi. Do you have the picture of the VF-1 pulling the beam saber out of its head as well? å‹¿è«– ; ) http://www.macrossmecha.info/joke/daicon_vf1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Whoa!!! Now THIS is what the ship should have been in Otaku No Video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radd Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 (edited) Gotta love it! Edited June 2, 2004 by Radd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Another use for the head laser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akilae Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 uhh... is that the Yamato attached to the left arm??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Tristen Posted June 2, 2004 Author Share Posted June 2, 2004 uhh... is that the Yamato attached to the left arm??? Hey everybody, he doesn't know... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerwalker Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 uhh... is that the Yamato attached to the left arm??? Hey everybody, he doesn't know... lol uhh... is that the Yamato attached to the left arm??? Hey everybody, he doesn't know... lol uhh... is that the Yamato attached to the left arm??? Hey everybody, he doesn't know... lol Wait a minute...you mean that Yamato is making a toy out of that!!! What would be the scale?? 1/100 ?? Bahhh, I hate small scales I want it in 1/48 !!! (Sorry Akilae, it was very tempting...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final Vegeta Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Lame Gainax, The design of the turrets it's all wrong. Only ONE turret, the one in the crotch area, has THREE "bumps". All the other turrets have TWO bumps. There was a reason behind this. FV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Tristen Posted June 2, 2004 Author Share Posted June 2, 2004 Lame Gainax, The design of the turrets it's all wrong. Only ONE turret, the one in the crotch area, has THREE "bumps". All the other turrets have TWO bumps.There was a reason behind this. FV Kisama! What your tongue! : P Actually..... hmmm, yep, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. hahaha Gainax's arrangement of the converging energy beam guns and missile launchers are all correct. The design is based on the TV series version of the SDF-1 Macross You, sir, are mistaken ^.^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Yeap, Nanashi is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Tristen Posted June 2, 2004 Author Share Posted June 2, 2004 Lame Gainax, The design of the turrets it's all wrong. Only ONE turret, the one in the crotch area, has THREE "bumps". All the other turrets have TWO bumps.There was a reason behind this. FV See for yourself: http://www.macrossmecha.info/tmp/macross_s...atic-front.html (Caution very large image : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JELEINEN Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Very nice, Nanashi. Do you have the picture of the VF-1 pulling the beam saber out of its head as well? 勿論 ; ) http://www.macrossmecha.info/joke/daicon_vf1.html Wow. That looks like a sketch for an actual cel. The level of detail they put into that film is just amazing. If anyone has it, I highly recomend watching it frame by frame. There's tons of little bits they threw into it that you can't catch watching it normally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akilae Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 uhh... is that the Yamato attached to the left arm??? Hey everybody, he doesn't know... lol ahh.. but I'm pretty sure it's the Yamato... unless there's something I'm totally missing here... again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radd Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 uhh... is that the Yamato attached to the left arm??? Hey everybody, he doesn't know... lol ahh.. but I'm pretty sure it's the Yamato... unless there's something I'm totally missing here... again. Yes, that is the Yamato, and the other arm is Captain Herlock's ship, the Arcadia. Three of anime's most famous spaceships, in one single form. This is from an animated intro to a Japanese sci-fi convention called 'Daicon'. Gainax did the two famous opening animations floating around fansub circles. The entire animation was a send up to anime, comic books, sci-fi, and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Are screenshots an impossibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That NOS Guy Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Kisama! What your tongue! : PActually..... hmmm, yep, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. hahaha Gainax's arrangement of the converging energy beam guns and missile launchers are all correct. The design is based on the TV series version of the SDF-1 Macross You, sir, are mistaken ^.^ 0wn3d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final Vegeta Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Gainax's arrangement of the converging energy beam guns and missile launchers are all correct. The design is based on the TV series version of the SDF-1 Macross You, sir, are mistaken ^.^ Big pic, but you can read it was not drawn by Miyatake. I really appreciate your work, honest, and I don't want to belittle it, but you have fallen in your usual mistake. I have other images: Yellow Submarine DYRL? SDF-1 This is animation: Macross Plus Even Macross Cannon is a converging beam cannon, and it has TWO bumps. It's not said anywhere, but logic would say one is positively charged and the other is negatively charged. Between runs current due to the difference in potential (the animation shows something like that in the first episode). A third bump would be useless. I suspect that in Regults one barrel fire positively charged particles. It's not said anywhere even this, and the Compendium don't mention it, but the more you keep shooting your electrons the less electrons you will fire, because your mecha is too charged in other way. If one of the barrel fires positive particle and the other negative, you will keep your balance. Furthermost, if you keep charging your opponent in a way and then hitting him with the opposite charge, the damage increases. Zentradi are typical for two barrels design in their particle weapons. The Quel-Quallie have two double-barreled particle cannons. They are not listed as four, but as two couple. I still have not said the reason I was talking about, though FV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radd Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Yopu do realize that you're comparing the movie version of the Macross to the tv series version? There were a lot of differenes. Here, I've got the Perfect Memory book. Just one moment and I'll scan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radd Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 http://steampowered.net/temp/sdf1.jpg Not as large as the image Nanashi posted, but you can clearing see the same gun arrangement as in Nanashi's shown picture. This is the tv series version of the SDF-1 Macross, there are many differences between it and the DYRL? version wich has been used in all Macross productions ever since the movie came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Tristen Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 Gainax's arrangement of the converging energy beam guns and missile launchers are all correct. The design is based on the TV series version of the SDF-1 Macross You, sir, are mistaken ^.^ Big pic, but you can read it was not drawn by Miyatake. I really appreciate your work, honest, and I don't want to belittle it, but you have fallen in your usual mistake. I have other images: Yellow Submarine DYRL? SDF-1 This is animation: Macross Plus Even Macross Cannon is a converging beam cannon, and it has TWO bumps. It's not said anywhere, but logic would say one is positively charged and the other is negatively charged. Between runs current due to the difference in potential (the animation shows something like that in the first episode). A third bump would be useless. I suspect that in Regults one barrel fire positively charged particles. It's not said anywhere even this, and the Compendium don't mention it, but the more you keep shooting your electrons the less electrons you will fire, because your mecha is too charged in other way. If one of the barrel fires positive particle and the other negative, you will keep your balance. Furthermost, if you keep charging your opponent in a way and then hitting him with the opposite charge, the damage increases. Zentradi are typical for two barrels design in their particle weapons. The Quel-Quallie have two double-barreled particle cannons. They are not listed as four, but as two couple. I still have not said the reason I was talking about, though FV First of all the Daicon animation openings were presented in 1983, prior to the theatrical release of Macross: Do You Remember Love? The parody is based on the original television series SDF-1 Macross design, as I stated prior and is accurate (with exception of the attached arm ships) with Kazutaka Miyatake's design of the SDF-1 Macross. The turrets of which you speak are not beam guns. The ones with three projections are "large-type missile cannons", not converging energy beam cannons. (See Macross Guide Book, p.189) Also more specifically, the Macross' main cannon is a super dimension energy cannon which uses polarization/convergence system. The other smaller converging energy beam cannons do not appear to use this super dimension energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon Krieg Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 The turrets of which you speak are not beam guns. The ones with three projections are "large-type missile cannons", not converging energy beam cannons. (See Macross Guide Book, p.189)Also more specifically, the Macross' main cannon is a super dimension energy cannon which uses polarization/convergence system. The other smaller converging energy beam cannons do not appear to use this super dimension energy. After checking out my this is Animation #3, #5, and #7 TV series books, I came across a pic of the SDF-1 firing missiles out of the "crotch" triple turret as in Nanashi's pic. The picture is in This is Animation #7 on page 36. The picture actually bleeds over onto page 37 and is at the top of the two pages. *Bows with respect to Nanashi* As usual , Nanashi is absolutely correct. The triple turrets on the original TV series SDF-1 are in fact heavy missile launchers. I do have the this is animation for DRYL but there is no indication of what the triple turrets actually are as far as type of weapon system. Palladium books (Yes I know Kevin's reputation for accuracy in the Macross books ) lists it as a beam cannon. But I am sure Nanashi can tell us what it actually is. (most likely the same as the TV series). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final Vegeta Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 I have learned a new thing. Thank you, Nanashi and Radd. I have watched Macross TV only after Plus and DYRL?. Anyway, this is the weaponry of the SDF-1, according to the Compendium. Cannons:Main: Overtechnology Macross bow-firing super-dimension-energy cannon with beam polarizing converging system. Auxillary: 8 Overtechnology guided converging beam cannon system, 4 high speed 178-cm-diameter electro magnetic rail cannons. Missiles: Main: large automatic anti-ship missile launchers. Auxillary: various missile emplacements. The main "large automatic anti-ship missile launchers" is the one in the "crotch", right after the Macross Cannon in Battle Fortress mode. Three "bumps" means missile launchers. Two "bumps" means converging beam, and it's true also for Zentradi spaceships' turrets. The only thing is: with the TV version, how many are the beam cannons? 5? I will check the number of the turrets. Wasn't the DYRL redesign supposed to show up in the series, but it didn't make it? I think that may be why the Compendium lists 8 beam turrets. FV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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