Gakken85 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Could you elaborate on metallic vs gloss? Gloss like plastic with sheen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think that's backward, I believe metallic is true V2, the original red shoulder releases had a normal red shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) Ok. So I'll inquire about the version from the seller. I guess my main concern.. should I be falling over my wallet to buy a turbo when the clear parts (assuming V2 with metal/plastic shoulder) is almost as good? And isn't the left shoulder more anime accurate? Edited April 8, 2013 by Gakken85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOW_ALT Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think that's backward, I believe metallic is true V2, the original red shoulder releases had a normal red shoulder. That's what I thought until I bought MISB metallic shouldered one and it was version 1, it even said so on the box. The ebay seller swore up and down that it was a version 2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 That's what I thought until I bought MISB metallic shouldered one and it was version 1, it even said so on the box. The ebay seller swore up and down that it was a version 2... lulz. Did you ask for pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOW_ALT Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 lulz. Did you ask for pictures? At the time there wasn't much information circling around about stickers defining the version on the box, which is out of character for Yamato. All there was to go off of at the time was information that all the metallic painted shouldered units were version 2, which obviously is not correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Well I'm glad you're here to help now. Thanks bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Mine is a version 2 with metallic shoulder so maybe not much can be gleaned from the shoulder paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Jenius - do you have the Turbo Custom? What are the main difference between the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Mine is a version 2 with metallic shoulder so maybe not much can be gleaned from the shoulder paint. I think all v2 comes with transparent green 'eye' whereas v1 green 'eye' is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 My Yamato dogs are in storage right now I'm afraid so I can't stay much for specifics other than the legs on the TCs are totally different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Ok. So I'll inquire about the version from the seller. I guess my main concern.. should I be falling over my wallet to buy a turbo when the clear parts (assuming V2 with metal/plastic shoulder) is almost as good? And isn't the left shoulder more anime accurate? I had these same questions when I wanted to jump into Votoms collecting and watching the TV series and OVAs helped answer many of them. Early in the TV series, a character named Vanilla Varta is souping up a scopedog for Chirico to go into battle. And somewhat as a joke, he paints one of the shoulders red, as for the famed death squad the Red Shoulders. When Chirico points out that he painted the wrong shoulder, they realize he used to be on the Red Shoulders himself. So the model 'Red Shoulder Custom' speaks to vanilla's paint job and is always the left shoulder. I believe the DMZ accessory set for this even comes with a ladder and spray paint can for Vanilla. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Takara-1-18-Votoms-Scopedog-Red-Shoulder-Custom-Parts-Vanilla-Microman-Figure-/190821464673?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6dd87a61 The OVA Last Red Shoulder features a squad of ex-red shoulders that get some tc dogs together to exact some revenge. NONE of the scopedogs actually has a red shoulder. So that's why the Yamato big reddish box Last Red Shoulder Turbo Custom does not actually include a red shoulder piece. The OVA Roots of Ambition (which is one of my favorites) features many turbo customs that have a red shoulder so that's where you get the Yamato Battle Oddon Turbo Custom set that comes with a dark red shoulder piece. Eventually I'd like to get the Yamato Vanilla RS Custom set and then I'd have to choose a standard release to put with it. So if I ever get to it, I'd have to get a V2 with clear armor to attached the Vanilla pieces to. Yamato does have a RSC set (vanilla) that comes WITH a scopedog. But I have no idea if that is a version 1 or 2. To be safe I'd lean towards getting them separate to make sure I get a V2. But it is my recommendation if you have limited funds, to go strongly after one of the Turbo Custom models shown in these pics here. They seem to be much tighter and problem free over either the V1 or V2 standard green scopedogs... Edited April 9, 2013 by DarrinG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Here are the Yamato Red Shoulder Custom offerings for reference. The combo pack and the accessories by themselves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) I'm watching the show right now! SPOILERS! haha Thanks for all that info though. I just saw the episode where Vanilla paints the shoulder. Good stuff. Edited April 15, 2013 by Gakken85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Spoiler, the series is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Does anybody know if the Parachute pack fits the strong Bachus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Yes it does - but will he stand up with it on? Barely. I saw a step by step somewhere of someone hollowing out all the pieces of the pack to make it lighter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Maybe use the gun as a counter balance? haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I hope it works. I just got the pack for 25 bucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I got him today. I'm not really sure why people say these things aren't sturdy. Picking it up and moving it.. it feel solid like a tank. It's obviously not something you fly around the room and shake up, it's something you handle lightly due to all the moving parts, but it's not a glass sculpture like a lot of the reviews I've read. I can say it feels a lot sturdier than a 1/60 VF-0 or a 1/48 VF-1. It's really beautiful in it's design. I am in love with this toy and really happy to have it. I love the dual scope visor too! Also, I'm pleased to say the back has hooks that look like they work with the parachute sack. I think it will look fantastic with the missile launcher. Unboxing Album: http://imgur.com/a/DRFSV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Congrats on the buy! Liked the unboxing pics too. The forearms on yours already look better than mine, tighter, without a big gap. The arm punch mechanism I have looks to be pulling the whole area apart. Here is a custom Bachus from someone really talented at painting and weathering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Nice. Yeah I plan on getting a missile upgrade pack. I think with the parachute pack and the missile pack he'll look very imposing haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) Got the Parachute sack on. It just slots right on. I'd say for $30 bucks shipped it's a lot of value. The Sack has a lot of moving parts and it came with some spare ammo and hip covers. I like that it perfectly matches the gray/blue of the gun and his visor. Looks really good on the SB I thinik. Plus, there is a plastic bag of replacement parts for the joints? I can't tell as I can't read Japanese. Updated my Album with more pics of the upgrade pack: http://imgur.com/a/DRFSV Edited April 13, 2013 by Gakken85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I believe those joints are only to help out the V1 green and purple scopedogs, to help support the ankles. Yamato started including them to answer customer outrage. The TC + Oddon set only went for 47,500 yen, thought it might have been more... https://www.rinkya.com/new/en/auction-n123481620 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antibiotictab Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Sorry to interrupt you. I went to the Volks' event "Hobby Round 9" yesterday. From 3:42, the Votoms items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Its no interruption! Enjoy looking at the Volks 1/8 line. They are dream purchases. I assume this is simply to show their history, not announce a re-release of any of these kits. ( votoms is back! pffffft ) I LOVE the Vanillia sculpt. He comes with the TC, Cocanna with the Bazooka / Round Mover and Chirco with the standard Scopedog. The also made a Fyana, wonder why she was not displayed... Edited April 15, 2013 by DarrinG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) I got it translated: These support parts are for locking the moveable joints in a fixedposition so that you can add other accessories (such as weapons) andkeep the body in the desired posture. So they are fixed position lockers? that's weird. haha. Idk, I don't have any major problems holding poses, though I haven't tried anything too crazy. cool video Edited April 15, 2013 by Gakken85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I never inserted the pieces because I do not have a true V1. So I do not know anything about how they work, or how well they work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Yeah strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) I got my Takara DMZ 06 today!!! My favorite mail-lady handed it to me right as I was going to work. Very nice way to start the day. I really need to tip her or buy her some cookies soon. Nothing like having the Mail person on your side for EMS packages. haha. I found it for $200 including 3 day shipping from Japan. Can't beat that. Lowest I could find it on Ebay/Amazon was $260 before shipping. From what I've read it has the following improvements over the 01: 1. Articulated hands 2. Slightly different paint scheme 3. Tighter joints and head movement. 4. Different head sculpt on Chirico I don't have the 01 so I can't compare, but I'll look at Jenius review later on tonight. I'll also post pics of the unboxing Edited April 16, 2013 by Gakken85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) Mini review! http://imgur.com/a/s8s2m Opened up my DMZ today. I have to say.. It's an awesome toy. I also have to say... Yamato basically ripped everything off to make their 1/12 up to the V2, and actually made a few improvements. I actually learned a lot about my Yamato playing with this Takara. Haha. The Gun and Hands are pretty much the same. The upper arms are exactly the same. I think the DMZ does the rocket punch much better. It springs easy and is a quality lock. The Legs are almost the same, but I think the Yamato wins out for having slightly better ankle swivels which is important. The waist skirts, and parts stay on a lot better with the Takara over the Yamato. The detailing and paint is much better. The balance is about the same, which surprised me. I thought this version would be a lot easier to handle. With the round mover on it's back it's about the same set-up as the Parachute sack on the SB. It's a little back heavy but poseable in the end. The articulated hands that come with this version over the previous 01 DMZ are cool, but I couldn't get it to lock hard enough to hold the gun. So I stuck to the static gun hand. I can see it being cool for certain poses with a splayed hand. The round mover is fantastic, though a little heavy. It has some cool articulation. The Chirico is really cool and full of articulation. 30 points. He has almost .. too many optional hands. I assume to hold his gun and make him crawling in and out of the dog. There are a set of flesh colored AND a set of glove colored. I doubt I'll ever use them. He also comes with a little plastic stand, which is nice. There are two heads that slot on, the helmet head and the normal head. The interior is pretty fantastic. Lots of color detail and Chirico even holds the little handles, which move. The box was tight as hell, but each end opens up to remove the tray, unlike the old versions. The instructions are minimal to say the least. Overall I think it really is a better value than any single Yamato offering bar the TC, which I don't own yet.With all the parts and figure right out of the box you really can't beat it the way Yamato nickle and dimed due to the size. I would say it's a better toy, bar the TC, but the Yamato is a better experience, if that makes sense. I would love to see Takara's ingenuity and innovations with the Masterpiece line re-applied to this toy, as you can tell the technology isn't quite there. Rocking out on my record player! haha Edited April 17, 2013 by Gakken85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I do not own a Takara - but the TAMPO PRINTING!, paint, weathering and more compact size seem to beat the Yamato soundly. My Yamatos look good on display, but after 26 seconds of handling I find myself wishing I would have left it alone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) You feel that way about the TC too? haha. I don't mind posing my SB, as I posed him for that last photo, but yeah it can be annoying. The Takara is a better value out of the box for sure. Most DMZ Takra run around $250 and you get the figure, a large accessory, and paint haha. However, you can get a V1-V2 Yamato pretty cheap these days. Probably less than a $100 due to their size and small market. The you have to buy some accessories to dress it up. I think the main issue is the design of the toy itself. Including the Dog gimmick, the boxy chest for a pilot, and the way the feet look.. it must lead to design challenges. Edited April 17, 2013 by Gakken85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 This auction lets us know for sure what type of dog comes in the Yamato RSC set 'black box' -- a V1. https://www.rinkya.com/new/en/auction-k164963663 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) DoNotWant. haha. Edited April 17, 2013 by Gakken85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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