VF5SS Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Tim Eldred did some comics right? I seem to recall he was the only one who could really draw the robots. But all the characters were done in a more realistic and western style so they were unrecognizable. But yeah any of the modern promo stuff never seems to mix eras that often and almost always looks like amateur fanart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) Tim Eldred did some comics right? I seem to recall he was the only one who could really draw the robots. But all the characters were done in a more realistic and western style so they were unrecognizable. But yeah any of the modern promo stuff never seems to mix eras that often and almost always looks like amateur fanart. Tim Eldred's cool...but I always think of him as a "Star Blazers" guy rather than a "Robotech" guy... EDIT: Oh crap...Yui's about to post...expect nonsense. Edited September 29, 2011 by Gubaba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I always think of him as Mr. Votoms since it was basically his force of will that made CPM license the series for America. He is the alpha and omega of western Votoms fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I always think of him as Mr. Votoms since it was basically his force of will that made CPM license the series for America. He is the alpha and omega of western Votoms fans. That's definitely another feather in his cap. And, uh...Yui is still composing... I'm getting scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yui1107 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) Translate the last sentense of the Instructions. ......at last, From this August (A.D.1984), We create Southern Cross cyclons! ・・・この8月から、サザンクロス旋風を巻き起こします。 MAHG / Multi‐purpose Advanced Hovercraft self-propelled Gun MAAH / Multi‐purpose Advanced Attack Helicopter Yasuhiro Nitta Twieer Photo http://www.zormaster.com/ has NO-Collection to that Leaflet! Orijinal PNG file (1.99MB) Edited September 29, 2011 by yui1107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanzerfan Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Tenjin the Great strikes again!! Is there any Robotech artist whose works look so good...? Try Don Yee. His work in Robotech Art 2 is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) Try Don Yee. His work in Robotech Art 2 is excellent. Better than Tenjin...? REALLY? Get your eyes checked, Dude. EDIT: Oh, and was I right about Yui, or what? Edited September 29, 2011 by Gubaba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Try Don Yee. His work in Robotech Art 2 is excellent. You call this "excellent"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Yeah not to belittle people's fanart from over 25 years ago but I'm not seeing anything outstanding or even near Tenjin's level. Most of the good art is just the Mikimoto pictures and existing artwork from the source material. So anyone want to explain why the first picture is clearly DYRL fanart? Anyone? Bueller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 You call this "excellent"? He also called THIS "excellent" once: ...until I pointed out that it kinda sucked. Then he changed his mind REAL quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 So uh Rick is now a Hobbit/Troll doll guy. Clearly superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Anyway, I think you make a good point: every Macross sequel is designed to give the old fans something they want (not always succeeding, of course), while bringing new fans up-to-speed as quickly as possible and giving them something that THEY want, as well. Which is something that Robotech sequels never figured out how to do. Yeah, I did not appreciate the fact that to fully enjoy Shadow Chronicles, there was required material needed just to understand it; not only the show, but the novels and comics, which are no longer canon, as well. All in all, it and future works are a really huge investment that hasn't paid off yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 So uh Rick is now a Hobbit/Troll doll guy. Clearly superior. Totally. Much better than, say, this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Well maybe if you compared say the Frontier or Plus manga it'd be slightly more fair. Just slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Well maybe if you compared say the Frontier or Plus manga it'd be slightly more fair. Just slightly. I can't believe I'm saying this, but you're being WAY too kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Yeah totally. Can't be any worse than those modern Robotech comics where they suggested that Milia actually trained in knife fighting like she planned to do that to kill Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Yeah totally. Can't be any worse than those modern Robotech comics where they suggested that Milia actually trained in knife fighting like she planned to do that to kill Max. Damn...REALLY? But, hey...I guess it's no sillier than saying that the Zentradi killed the Mars Base crew... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I think that bit was from the Love & War comics. Wait how could the Zentradi kill the Mars Base crew? Wasn't the whole base dead long before that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I think that bit was from the Love & War comics. Wait how could the Zentradi kill the Mars Base crew? Wasn't the whole base dead long before that? I think they said that "advance scouts" or something like that killed the Mars Base crew...despite the obvious problems that such an approach would take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Well they can just cover it up with off screen BS. It's not like Robotech has a shortage of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Well they can just cover it up with off screen BS. It's not like Robotech has a shortage of that. Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonc Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 In my experience (and this is a generalization), Macross fans really liked the homages, but they tended to make Robotech fans angry. Weirdly. Anyway, I think you make a good point: every Macross sequel is designed to give the old fans something they want (not always succeeding, of course), while bringing new fans up-to-speed as quickly as possible and giving them something that THEY want, as well. Which is something that Robotech sequels never figured out how to do. (And I'm sure the Colony Drop guys would argue that Unicorn's references are "organic" while Frontier's are "forced," or some BS like that...) I think many of the Robotech fans get angry at it because they think Robotech created Macross, and Macross is copying Robotech, which many will try to argue, but just sounds like "Blah blah blah, blah blah. Blah blah blah I'm stupid. Blah blah." Tenjin the Great strikes again!! Is there any Robotech artist whose works look so good...? There are some good Robotech artists, don't get me wrong, but nowhere near the calibur of Tenjin, or even some of the fan art that comes from Macross fans in Japan. Try Don Yee. His work in Robotech Art 2 is excellent. Don Yee is a good artist. He has good technique, and can draw the characters well, but I wouldn't compare him to Tenjin, Mikimoto, and others like them. Those guys are on another plain, and it's why we all know who they are. It's definitely not a put down, as I really respect Don Yee's work. Seeing his stuff is always a joy to see, but if you're going to compare artists, I think you'd have to compare commercial, paid artists, together...i.e Tommy Yune to Tenjin Hidetaka. Still no comparison, as Tenjin again is a much better artist. Using his style and technique, he's second to none. As for Mikimoto, again, no comparison. His characters are memorable, beautiful, and I don't know any Robotech artist on the planet that can compare. Not a jab at Robotech, but it's just the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzan Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 The horror, the horror... And people paid money for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 To borrow phrasing from kresphy... Robotech 25th Anniversary Soundtrack LEAKED!!! http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CIHVT5HM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Oh great. The same shitty music from years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Oh great. The same shitty music from years ago. But...but...only FOUR of the tracks are mp3...the rest are m4a!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Ain't no Fire Bomber on FLAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 To borrow phrasing from kresphy... Robotech 25th Anniversary Soundtrack LEAKED!!! http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CIHVT5HM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonc Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I forgot to ask, what the hell is the Southern Cross thing that Yui posted about? I have no f*cking clue what it's supposed to be. Is it just an old ad or something? If I don't get it, I hope at least one person does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I forgot to ask, what the hell is the Southern Cross thing that Yui posted about? I have no f*cking clue what it's supposed to be. Is it just an old ad or something? If I don't get it, I hope at least one person does. Oh, who cares, really? Especially when the 25TH ANNIVERSARY SOUNDTRACK is there for the taking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonc Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Oh, who cares, really? Especially when the 25TH ANNIVERSARY SOUNDTRACK is there for the taking! You're right. What was I thinking. That release will change all life on the planet FOREVARRRRR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Yeah, I did not appreciate the fact that to fully enjoy Shadow Chronicles I don't think anyone can fully enjoy Shadow Chronicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondTheGrave Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Clearly superior. When compared to the swimsuit pictorial. Then this is a masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrhillz Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 When compared to the swimsuit pictorial. Then this is a masterpiece. But! But! Breetai in a speedo is so great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondTheGrave Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 But! But! Breetai in a speedo is so great! So you like steroid minmei? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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