nexxstrait Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 Complete: Mechanic: F NUNS 01A: Macross Frontier: http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRmechanic/MCRmechanic.php#MF - some new bits of info, and I'm glad that it regurgitates the info that the ship is really composed of 6 smaller ships (something that I thought I must've translated in error when I did the Great Mechanics.DX article a few years back). And to top it off, there's an explanation on the opening of the gun barrel before firing gimmick. ER/RM++ project: Timeline 16A: "Shao Pai Long [Little White Dragon]" Premieres: http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRtimeline/MCRtimeline.php - slapped up in php. No changes in the two editions - they didn't even fix the typo! Obviously one questions the necessity of having a stealth starship attacched to a monstruosely huge non-stealth cityscape, but whatever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Obviously one questions the necessity of having a stealth starship attacched to a monstruosely huge non-stealth cityscape, but whatever...I think those are buzzwords that have been hanging around since M7 - when adding stealth to something automatically made it cool. Stealth Valkyrie, stealth frigate, stealth cruiser, stealth carrier, stealth brick... Nevertheless, I think it's one of those ideas (like the 6 ships in one thing) that came up during the brainstorming for the series, but never actually appears in the series (ship off on its own). Personally, I would've liked to have seen the asteroid crusher as initially envisioned... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Personally, I would've liked to have seen the asteroid crusher as initially envisioned... Asteroid CRACKER, you mean. And I'm still wondering about Episode 50 (or 46, depending)... "The Genius Falls." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Grenade Crusher, Asteroid Cracker... Macross and their odd word mash-ups! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 Asteroid CRACKER, you mean. And I'm still wondering about Episode 50 (or 46, depending)... "The Genius Falls." Where does this come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Where does this come from? Macross Perfect Memory. I'll get to it after I finish the Misa novella and the Misa drama album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 Macross Perfect Memory. I'll get to it after I finish the Misa novella and the Misa drama album. sounds interesting ("the genius falls" thing, I mean). As for the asteroid cracker, could it be the thing Mikimoto showed in MThe First (the destroids on the asteroid etc...)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 sounds interesting ("the genius falls" thing, I mean). As for the asteroid cracker, could it be the thing Mikimoto showed in MThe First (the destroids on the asteroid etc...)? Yeah, it's one of a couple of ideas that didn't make it into the show that Mikimoto revived for Macross the First. The initial idea was that the Macross would fire its anchor at asteroids, "cracking" them open, and hurtling the debris at attacking Zentradi. Eventually, this was replaced by the Daedalus Attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yeah, it's one of a couple of ideas that didn't make it into the show that Mikimoto revived for Macross the First. The initial idea was that the Macross would fire its anchor at asteroids, "cracking" them open, and hurtling the debris at attacking Zentradi. Eventually, this was replaced by the Daedalus Attack.The MC episode sheet described it as lodging the anchors in the asteroids and whirling them around - like flails or meteor hammers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) ER/RM++ Project: Character 7 Varohta 01A: Ivano Geperunicchi: http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRcharacter/MCRcharacter.php#M7 - interesting. Not a possession per se... History M 04A: The Zentraadi Invasion: http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRhistory/MCRhistory.php#SDFM - the sheet should settle any remaining doubt on the fate of the fold drive (that's annihilation in the physics sense.) More importantly, the revised edition cleans up another one of the creator's of Macross's strange acronyms (see ASS-1, et al.); admittedly it was the original writers of the MC who made the goof... Edited May 30, 2013 by sketchley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 ER/RM++ Project: Worldguide 14B: Planet Eden: http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRworldguide/MCRworldguide.php - so Isamu took Lucy to a cheap hotel... no wonder he got dumped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tochiro Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Some images from issue 20: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 ER/RM++ Project: Mechanic: F SMS 01A: Macross Quarter: http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRmechanic/MCRmechanic.php#MF - not much comes to mind that is new (ie not mentioned in Great Mechanics.DX, MF related art books, etc.)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Complete! Glossary 05A: S.M.S. - Emiria Jiinasu: http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRglossary/MCRglossary.php - In addition to the goodies sprinkled throughout, it describes the fate of the Megaroad-01: not only echoing what the PS1 mail-in stated, but also suggesting a possible current location for it. A must read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Complete: Gallery: F: Macross F (Frontier) #20: http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRgallery/MCRgallery.php#MF - interesting how many fingers were in the pie with one of the images. Mechanic: 7 UN 10A: Macross 7 Fleet: http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRmechanic/MCRmechanic.php#M7 - slapped up into php, and some spots were revised to make it more comprehensible. Otherwise, the two versions are unchanged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 For those playing along at home: the set of 4 pins for the first 15 issue mail in arrived today in the Kinki region. Yeah! Side note: the white kite on red circle is described as "Earth Unified Government". Make of that what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 ER/RM++ Project: Episode: M08A: Super Dimensional Fortress Macross Eps. 8 "Longest Birthday": http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRepisode/MCRepisode.php#SDFM - the "first" appearance of the Phalanx and the real person that Kakizaki is based off of - quite an interesting read. History M 06A: Miss Macross Contest: http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRhistory/MCRhistory.php#SDFM - The ER/RM fleshes out the background of MF a bit more. Otherwise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tochiro Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Some images from issue 21: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 ER/RM++ Project: Technology 11A: Barrier Systems: http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRtechnology/MCRtechnology.php - I'm a bit underwhelmed with the parts I translated - however, some of the titles for the other sections do look intriguing. Wish there were more hours in the day... Character: M 00A "Super Dimensional Fortress Macross" Character Interrelation Chart/Triangle Timeline: http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRcharacter/MCRcharacter.php#SDFM - the name of Hikaru and Misa's first born daughter. On top of that, the head-hurting aspect of Macross rears its ugly head again: did Minmei get on the Megaroad 01 or not? Another sheet in the MC clearly states that pretty much the majority of the crew of the SDF-1 were cloned to restore the Earth - and its extremely likely that ALL of the Megaroad-1 were crewed by clones of Hikaru, Misa and Minmei, to name but a few. So, were the trio that got on the Megaroad-01 mere copies, or were they the originals themselves? (Given Kawamori-san's thoughts on the matter, they are most likely the originals - either way, Minmei was both departing on the Megaroad-01 and remaining on the Earth, watching the Megaroad-01 depart. Head hurt yet?) And how does that cloning work exactly? It may have been an in-universe "dramatization", but implications are that it is damn quick. Instead of the My-clone device only shrinking or enlarging a Zentraadi, you feed it the genetic information, and it just produces a fully grown body - at the rate of what? 1 per hour? What about consciousness? As the same devices have the ability to transfer ones mind from one clone to another, shouldn't it be possible to store a copy in memory? A copy that can be imprinted on all clones of a given template - which is exactly what the other article in MC is implying when it comes to the clones of the crew of the Macross. (Which begs the question: is the consciousness in the discarded body truly moved? Or is it like "6th Day", and you aren't really transferred, only copied, and you die when your original body is disposed of?) Anyhow, I'm sure there are limitations placed on the My-clone system to prevent abuses (such as making mass copies of an individual Zentraadi who is being macronized), but I'm sure there would be some who work around it. Thus, the only problem for them would be feeding, clothing, sheltering and providing their quick-grown army with weapons. But then, why haven't we seen such an abuse in Macross? Or is it like the transporter in Star Trek, where the device is used for its story telling/production convenience, and its implications are not truly explored in-series.) Nevertheless, which Minmei is Burira searching for? The original (which may be in another galaxy), or any of her numerous clones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bub Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Just a quick question: I read earlier the we need extra binders. I got 1 that came with the 1st issue and I got another 2 extra binders. Total of 3 binders, are these enough for all 80 issues? How many binders do we really need? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Just a quick question: I read earlier the we need extra binders. I got 1 that came with the 1st issue and I got another 2 extra binders. Total of 3 binders, are these enough for all 80 issues? How many binders do we really need? Thanks! 10 issues can fit in each binder, so no, three won't be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulagu Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 10 issues can fit in each binder, so no, three won't be enough. 8 binders. I assume at some point (issue 30,60?) there will be a reorg of topics to new binders as the existing ones get filled up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF-15 Banshee Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 So Hikaru and Misa's daughter's name is definitely Mirai? Not Miku? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 So Hikaru and Misa's daughter's name is definitely Mirai? Not Miku? I've never seen it as anything other than Miku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 It's written with the same kanji as the word for "future" (未来), but instead of the standard "Mirai" reading, her name is read "Miku". Irregular, and sometimes original, readings occur a lot with Japanese names. I have seen Hikaru's name (一条 輝) once written as "Teru Ichijo" in some official English thing, like a pencil board or something, which is not wrong in terms of it being a possible reading of the Kanji but it's definitely incorrect in terms of what his actual name is. Another good example I remember well is in Tokyo Movie Shinsha's catalogue for overseas licensees of their anime productions, where Orguss's main character, Kei Katsuragi (桂木 桂) is called "Katsura Katsuragi", because if you notice, he has the same kanji in both his family name and given name; it just doesn't mean that they are pronounced the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share Posted June 8, 2013 (edited) So it's Miku, I presume. Edited June 8, 2013 by nexxstrait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 We'll go with Miku (no furigana assist in MC... I guess its another one of those "you have to already know what we're talking about to understand what we're talking about" things. Anyhow, it's fixed on the sheet. PS Jeffrey's got a list of possible readings: http://rut.org/cgi-bin/j-e/sjis/dosearch?sName=on&H=PS&L=J&T=%96%A2%97%88&WC=none Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 ER/RM++ Project: Episode: 712A: Macross 7 Eps. 12 "Spiritia Farm": http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Trans/MCRepisode/MCRepisode.php#M7 - the topics are a little underwhelming this time, but once again, the commentary reinforces the genius of the storytelling and setting. Alas, the anime itself didn't quite live up to that level in terms of presentation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bub Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 10 issues can fit in each binder, so no, three won't be enough. Thanks! So I guess it's not YET recommended to sticker up the 3 binders I have as suggested in issue 11... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 As I translated - those stickers are removable (of course, if you're not careful when removing them, they're going to get wrecked...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bub Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 8 binders. I assume at some point (issue 30,60?) there will be a reorg of topics to new binders as the existing ones get filled up? You could be right... New binders? Anyone can answer if we're having new art design in the future binders? If we're not having new art design, I'm securing five more of the existing ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 You could be right... New binders? Anyone can answer if we're having new art design in the future binders? If we're not having new art design, I'm securing five more of the existing ones. They won't. They'll all be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bub Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 They won't. They'll all be the same. Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 On top of that, the head-hurting aspect of Macross rears its ugly head again: did Minmei get on the Megaroad 01 or not? Another sheet in the MC clearly states that pretty much the majority of the crew of the SDF-1 were cloned to restore the Earth - and its extremely likely that ALL of the Megaroad-1 were crewed by clones of Hikaru, Misa and Minmei, to name but a few. So, were the trio that got on the Megaroad-01 mere copies, or were they the originals themselves? (Given Kawamori-san's thoughts on the matter, they are most likely the originals - either way, Minmei was both departing on the Megaroad-01 and remaining on the Earth, watching the Megaroad-01 depart. Head hurt yet?) Sounds like a dumb in universe way to explain a symbolic not a literal scene. Minmay also flies up to the heavens under her own power in Flashback as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Sounds like a dumb in universe way to explain a symbolic not a literal scene. Minmay also flies up to the heavens under her own power in Flashback as well. And don't forget the clown with the handcuffs on the turntable... how will Chronicle explain that...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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