Roycommi Posted September 17, 2003 Posted September 17, 2003 Hi, Was curious if anyone knew what this ship is, what it is supposed to be for, and why was it only in like 2 seconds of Macross 2? Roycommi
imode Posted September 17, 2003 Posted September 17, 2003 I think that's the legendary ship of Alus... or however the translation came out. I guess that's what they believed it to look like, until they saw the Macross.
yellowlightman Posted September 17, 2003 Posted September 17, 2003 Where's that shot from, Roycommi? A really zoomed-in screen grab from the video itself?
Agent ONE Posted September 17, 2003 Posted September 17, 2003 I agree with Imode, but I think it is more a spiritual representation of the Macross. The ship's soul.
Roycommi Posted September 17, 2003 Author Posted September 17, 2003 Where's that shot from, Roycommi? A really zoomed-in screen grab from the video itself? Its from the end of the Macross 2 video game on MAME.
Tekkaman Blade Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 I laughed so hard when I saw that in the Macross II movie. I couldn't believe they thought that was the Macross
Ginrai Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 "They" didn't think it the Macross was the Alus... Ishtar did. I'm sorry, she's cute and all, but she's also a bimbo.
Agent ONE Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 "They" didn't think it the Macross was the Alus... Ishtar did. I'm sorry, she's cute and all, but she's also a bimbo. ... uh, but the Macross was the Alus. <_<
Tekkaman Blade Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 "They" didn't think it the Macross was the Alus... Ishtar did. I'm sorry, she's cute and all, but she's also a bimbo. ... uh, but the Macross was the Alus. Yeah, that's what Ishtar said!
Agent ONE Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 "They" didn't think it the Macross was the Alus... Ishtar did. I'm sorry, she's cute and all, but she's also a bimbo. ... uh, but the Macross was the Alus. Yeah, that's what Ishtar said! oh. I thought he was implying that Ishtar was wrong!
Tekkaman Blade Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 Heh, if she imagined the Macross was all cute and perky like that, she's crazy. It's got a big cannon
Druna Skass Posted September 19, 2003 Posted September 19, 2003 That thing sure looks a lot like the R-103 Delphinus III from Ace Combat 3...
Keith Posted September 19, 2003 Posted September 19, 2003 There was no comfirmation that the Macross was actually the Alus, or that the Alus even existed. Any way you cut it, in the TV series continuity it's a Supervision Army ship, and in the DYRL continuity, it's a Meltrandi gunship. As per usual, the Macross II writers were on crack.
Agent ONE Posted September 22, 2003 Posted September 22, 2003 There was no comfirmation that the Macross was actually the Alus, or that the Alus even existed. Any way you cut it, in the TV series continuity it's a Supervision Army ship, and in the DYRL continuity, it's a Meltrandi gunship. As per usual, the Macross II writers were on crack. Not necessarily... Keep in mind they had none of the background story of M7 to give them information on the Supervisional Army. Therefore, they could have assumed that the Supervisional Army assimilated the Alus into its ranks, then by chance it ended up on Earth. Even in SDFM the origin of the Macross was a partial mystery, there is no reason it couldn't have some mystical power.
Uxi Posted September 22, 2003 Posted September 22, 2003 (edited) The Macross origins in Macross have always sounded... weird to me. Overpowered for its size compared to the Zentraedi ships. IOW, if the SA had small ships like that, what were their big ships like?? Of course, the Macross is protected by the plot, but that's not a good in-story reason. I know that the Zentraedi initially were going out of their way to capture instead of destroy but still... EDIT: And on topic, there WAS (or more appropriately was going to be) a continuity other than Studio Nue's, when they weren't doing Macross. It's possible the Alus could have sprang up from there. Me, I always like the idea that MII was an in-story fictional sequel to the retcon'ed in-story fictional movie "DYRL." Maybe something Basara, et al went to see after defeating the Protodevlin. Edited September 22, 2003 by Uxi
JB0 Posted September 22, 2003 Posted September 22, 2003 The Macross origins in Macross have always sounded... weird to me. Overpowered for its size compared to the Zentraedi ships. IOW, if the SA had small ships like that, what were their big ships like?? Of course, the Macross is protected by the plot, but that's not a good in-story reason. I know that the Zentraedi initially were going out of their way to capture instead of destroy but still... The Macross was a gunboat. It existed solely to haul the big cannon around. It's overpowered for it's size because that's what gunboats ARE. You may recall it had almost no other weapons. That's because a gunboat isn't supposed to operate solo. It should've had other ships defending it. You don't get to see Zentradi gunboats in-show, because, according to Macross Compendium's entry for a zentradi gunboat... Programmes: This medium-scale gunboat is used in planetary bombardment and large-scale fleet-to-fleet engagement. . So you're left comparing apples and oranges. I assume the Supervision Army and Zentradi are of similar tech levels, as there is no evidence to disprove the notion.
Tekkaman Blade Posted September 22, 2003 Posted September 22, 2003 I never try to explain Macross 2, it just doesn't fit in the whole Macross puzzle correctly.
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