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  1. If you watch the background in the final scenes, there are actually white stone pillars supporting each piece of the ring. Maybe they are an example of Vajra architecture. FV
  2. Ah, sorry, there was so much emphasis on the VF-1 I was confused. Yes, the VF-25 with FAST Packs is faster than the VF-25 without (and the VF-25 with full armor is as fast a a standard VF-25). So yes, the VF-25 with FAST Packs should be comparable to the VF-27. FV
  3. First of all, the VF-27 still have two times the T/W ratio. Second of all, the VF-1 with FAST Packs has nearly four times the mass of a VF-27. You can conclude your assertion is unfounded. FV
  4. This kind of polls is mostly based on popularity of the anime. Geass is the most popular, so it's obviously #1. What about ep. 45 of G Gundam? FV
  5. Macross is a mecha show. I can tell because I watch mostly mecha shows. The only thing is that Macross is a show that you can watch with your girl, therefore there is very little nerdiness on screen. FV
  6. "Gattai" means "combine" in Japanese. It can also have a sexual meaning (some anime joke about this). The gattai pose came from the super robot show Aquarion, a previous anime of Kawamori. FV
  7. Alto is an oyama, he is not fit for physical exertion. FV
  8. Yeah, I said it was from a wiki of Macross Ace Frontier. FV
  9. That's how things go when they they are unplanned. But even then, with all the clones circulating in all fleets, having the same last name could mean nothing at all. Yeah, you supposedly are kinda related, but then? Should you live with them as a family even though you don't know them? FV
  10. Who also did Reika in Aquarion. Here a gattai pose with Kawamori. Maybe there's something more as to why Kawamori said his favorite character for the night was Cathy FV
  11. In Japanese you can address others as "brother", "sister", "uncle" and so on. I wouldn't read too much out of it. FV
  12. A Japanese wiki for Macross Ace Frontier gave a nickname for the VF-27: VF-27 Lucifer It fits (Messiah VS Lucifer), but it's only a wiki, and of a tie-in game, so take it with a grain of salt. By the way, the VF-171 is called Nightmare Plus. FV
  13. Finally, another fan art of Grace Still no flightsuit FV
  14. Why jamming? Battle Frontier is a ステルス攻撃宇宙空母 (stealth attack space carrier). FV
  15. I am the one who voted Brera I dig cyborgs and his mecha is currently my top favorite. FV
  16. I think I spotted another Macross Plus reference: in ep. 2 when Ozma talk to Alto about the VF-25, he says "thrilling da ne", which should be the same thing Isamu says to Lucy on the bike ride. FV
  17. Personally, I think that Alto's maxim applies even to logic. Logic has its limits (ie: induction. You'd think all swans are white if you didn't know there are black swans in Australia), therefore it can tell you what is wrong, but there is not always certainty about what is right. Logic therefore can be deliberately tampered to reach a particular conclusion that is advantageous to the reasoner. The drawback of perfect logic though is that it makes you sad. Can't win 'em all Haragei means several different things in Japanese. Kawamori obviously expressed haragei as a concept both figurative and concrete (after all hara means literally "belly"). So yes, it's all because of a bacterium, and yet it works like the true haragei, a comunication without words or gestures. It's not a concept but a sense, and it's not a mindset but an absence of mindsets. It's one of those Zen things. The more I think about it, the less I am able to describe FV
  18. Yeah, you can't win without Valkyries. Pity those who have Gundams. Now I see where the difficulties with Macross Zero lie: it's not like Indipendence Day. This thread is very instructive. FV
  19. Yet the Vajra are alive and Grace kicked the bucket. In Macross Frontier there is a conceptual symmetry between a head collective (implant network) and a belly collective (Vajra). If the Vajra are the haragei, the implant network is the internet. These are two styles of comunication, the old and the new. The whole show in fact seems to dwell in the contraposition between the old and the new: haragei and internet, kabuki and idol, human and cyborg, old series and new series. This appears to be the frontier in the title. Coming back to my point, conflicts between "heads" results in arguments, yet by arguing a lot on internet you'll learn you don't necessarily gain friends with this. Brera still feels lonely even being connected to Grace. True bonds are not born with the head. "Because we're alone we love someone". The purpose of love is to overcome loneliness. If you overcome loneliness by other methods (ie: implant network), love is not needed. "If you think, you'll never bloom". As you can see, there is coherence on all levels. FV
  20. Sheryl and Ranka decided it. Both: "It's a new beginning". Sheryl had to resolve her illness, Ranka her past. It's a move born out of fairness. From the Compendium (VF-1's page): Fluid pulse actuators enable transformation. It's a technology on par with Gundam's magnetic coating. All this while the show keep telling you not to think with your head Bad times end, love still exists, life is full of interesting challenges. This is what the end is about. Luca did have his development, he even lost his rosy cheeks. The only thing is that he developed becoming a bit of an evil guy, so he was even less likable than in the beginning. Not talking about the creepy kiss to a girl in coma. He improved going back to his usual self. Leon is a power hungry villain, it's not like these guys suddenly become good, cool or deep. His kind of development consists in the influence he gains by killing his former allies and people he is brown nosing. They could have done more with Brera. They could have emphasized his order obeying side, so that when he defected with Ranka in ep. 21 that would have been perceived as a development. I think episode 13 is the culprit, it shows Brera caring to much for Ranka too early, also giving away his brother status. I would have liked he was given the same treatment of Grace, who was revealed as a villain without hinting it. Nanase was totally secondary. That was his point. Haragei, belly art. In one of his article for the ASAHI, Mr. Matsumoto suggested that HARAGEI is the product of a farming culture where farmers are expected to group themselves together to "group think," "group feel," "group behave," for a mutually shared goal. Climate and the religious traditions of Japan, especially Zen, have played their part in shaping this characteristic mode of expression. On the latter point, Mr. Matsumoto once wrote: HARAGEI and ZEN mix well, for ZEN training begins with a rejection of intellection... including logic, reason, and any art of conceptualization or even verbalism. The more eloquent or more articulate you are, the further you tend of get away from the truth. The school system has also left its mark. Japanese students are not encouraged to analyze things, much less to think on their own. They are supposed to feel. And this is at the heart of the matter. HARAGEI involves the communication of feelings and requires a good deal of sensitivity and intuition. This is perhaps best done when drunk, when the reason is paralyzed. But, drunk or sober, the goal is to merge on an emotional level to achieve an identity of feeling. Doesn't this remind you of the Vajra? I think Vajra are misunderstood on a conceptual level. It's not like they are a mind with multiple bodies, they simply agree with each other. Since they don't have a mind, they never argue or bicker, they always work for a common goal. "The essence of life is not yes or no, but yes and no." "Why?" "Because yes means no and no means yes." Haragei is social harmony. To achieve this, there are formulas in the behaviour and speech to prevent yourself from cornering others. Basically, you try not to stick out. Something for example you don't have done, you have been recognized several times as an annoying shipper To preserve social harmony, Alto is aiming for a win-win-win situation. That's the sense of Macross Frontier, not a trail of clues to find out which girl Alto has chosen. She was just kidnapped a couple of times, something that happened to all Macross heroines You've noticed it by yourself, she did have her development. She gained a bit of confidence, just as much not to become another person. At the start of the series she fainted a lot. Then she saved Alto in ep. 12, chose to sortie in ep. 18, left Alto in ep. 21 and slapped Sheryl in ep. 25. She also challenged Sheryl in the end. There are differences with the start of the series. FV
  21. Technically, they have dated, in exchange for informations about Sheryl's pill. But they were childhood friends. FV
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