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Maybe Leon asked the agent/Grace for that little "favor" and to "take care of her"... (godamned gangsters!)

First... Next episode Second, I believe the "agent" (I bet is Grace) was asking Leon for Super Dimension Resonance Crystals (not her words) in exchange of giving him information on the Vajra and the VF-27... The agent gave the sample to Leon to show him what she wanted... Why would the agent ask for more crystals? I bet they are used in both the VF-27 and the Vajra... (Perhaps as powersource). Btw... Did Alto got his hair cut short in this episode? I just couldn't notice it, hehe...

Does that mean this thread is gonna be closed? Wow... Finally we will know what's the story behind "Aimo" and why only Brera and Ranka know it... Thanks... Will edit the Macross Frontier Wiki page A.S.A.P....

Hehehe... Give me a break. Global wars, Reaction Weapons... and u call humanity peaceful? We have culture but we are warlike. In fact... I believe the whole point of Frontier is that humanity is heading the same end the Protoculture met eons ago... Check the analogy... Protoculture => Extinct due to its creations, the Zentradi... Humanity => Extinct due to its creations, the Vajra... I noticed something... Rooy KANu Rooy WaKA Actually the AFOS (Artifact From Outer Space... NOT APHOS) had a purple crystaline substance in its "torso" structure that looked like it was made of Super Dimensional Resonance Crystal a lot... (remember the spiral where its blood poured from... hell, the whole thing was purple!).

Likely, since Mao must have become a Doc lots of years after the events of Zero (she was 11 then) and resources must have been very very scarce at the end of Space War I. Bet Vajra development must have started 15 to 20 years later at least. Btw... Check this out. Is from the 2008 version of the Macross Official Chronology... 2022 M3 Episode 4 Black Celebration Invasion of the Secret Relics Base The Dancing Skull special forces team destroy an abandoned UN Forces biological weapons research base at the site of Protoculture ruins on the planet New Asia, after the base is deemed a biohazard. That's a whole 14 years after the AFOS incident... Hehehe... Sheryl and Ranka must be Gholas of Sara and Mao then... LONG LIVE THE FIGHTERS!!!!

Like Palpatine would say... "Goood...!!!!" There's also always the possibility that is just ONE race... The Protoculture. The differences between those creations is due to the different stage of development the Protoculture technology had when each one was made. The Zentradi were first... The Birdman much much later. The Vajra come from the Birdman... Actually they are... but not directly. Check this out... Is from the 2001 Macross M3 game for the Sega Dreamcast... - Features Regult, Glaug, Tomahawk, Defender, Phalanx, Gnerl, four new variable craft (VF-9, VF-14, VF-3000, Variable Graug) and entirely new concept mecha (U.N. insectoid bioweapons developed from Protoculture genetic technology and Zentradi final weapon with two different combining mecha modes depending on ending) - This clearly shows that U.N. Spacy/N.U.N.S. has been developing more and more advanced weapons to counter the possibility of more Zentradi or even Supervision Army attacks since Space War I. As desperate as they are, I hardly doubt they cared for the destructive capability of their creations. The Vajra are a result of that weapon development and research... I bet the Large Red Vajra's Spirals are genetically coded in it... proof of a relation to the APHOS... A creation of the Protoculture. Since the APHOS blood was used for a transfusion on Dr. Mao during Macross Zero, the Vajra must have been developed from her blood!!!! Now... How come a girl like Mao becomes interested in bioweapons research and stuff and ends up a Doctor? Well... I believe she and the rest of the Mayans went to South Ataria Island and lived in Macross City (and so on). She must have experienced first hand the destruction of Space War I. Maybe after it she decided to contribute to the development of bioweapons to counter Zentradi or remaining Supervision Army forces...

Yes... Totally possible. I bet the Large Red Vajra's Spirals are genetically coded in it... proof of a relation to the AFOS/Bird Human... Since the AFOS/Bird Human blood was used for a transfusion on Dr. Mao during Macross Zero, the Vajra must have been developed from her blood!!!!

Yep... They ... Btw... I've been wondering... Is the skull in Ozma's S.M.S. Skull Squadron Logo an Ox? It doesn't look like one to me...

Cant't wait to see Brera use it to cut Vajra to pieces with it. Btw... did anybody here noticed how Brera also has a similar small blade concealed on his right forearm? He used it to cut the Griphon/Hydra in half in episode 10... I just noticed in one of the Newtype magazine scans from the News thread that Brera also has a helmet. Maybe he puts the helmet on when entering the VF-27 and then he connects/interfaces with the VF-27 control system through VR imaging. Maybe that's why the cockpit seems so big and funky colored at the end of episode 7...

Yes yes yes... This is one of the most probable theories so far. Btw... Apparently the UNS also experimented with insectoid biomecha... Check this out!!! "- Features Regult, Glaug, Tomahawk, Defender, Phalanx, Gnerl, four new variable craft (VF-9, VF-14, VF-3000, Variable Graug) and entirely new concept mecha (U.N. insectoid bioweapons developed from Protoculture genetic technology and Zentradi final weapon with two different combining mecha modes depending on ending) -" Is from the Macross Compendium M3 Game Entry... The game was released in 2001 for the Dreamcast... Perhaps Kawamori took the whole Vajra concept from here? Maybe he kind of merged it with the Birdman stuff from Macross Zero...

KAWAII!!!!!

...like Brera's arm... Yes... I agree with all of this. It kinda fits with all that has happened so far. Ranka will be the big thing in the end... Yep... No soul on those... "Aaaaaimo Aaaaaimo....".

The Zentradi were created as Proxy warriors. Since their fleets were huge and they only knew fighting, is probable most species they came into contact and refused to surrender to the Protoculture were simply wiped out by them... exterminated... extinct... finito. Is a very very big Galaxy, so the possibilities are endless. According to the Compendium after 2012 there are still 3 million Zentradi ships scattered across the Galaxy. However, the UN government of allied Humans and Zentradi are the reigning hegemony in near-Earth galactic space until the events of Macross Frontier. So far the only sentient alien species other than Zentradi that has been found by the Earthlings are the Zolans (from the Macross 7 OVA)... They are humanoid and could have been created by the Protoculture too. If you watched Macross Zero there was a spiral symbol in many Protoculture artifacts. The Red Large Vajra has those symbols on its armor too... The characteristics of the Vajra are too advanced and waaay above any type of technology the Zentradi had. If you analize the Zentradi mecha/ships designs they are pretty basic and simple in design. The Vajra on the other hand are a result of much more advanced technologies that merge mechatronics and genetic engineering. If the Vajra are indeed product of the Protoculture they must have been developed many many years after the Zentradi were created...

Brera is a cyborg. His eyes are artificial (just like Grace's). Hell... he may even be bald for all we know... Ranka and Sheryl have different blood types according to the Macross Compendium. Sheryl has "Alpha" blood (Mayan). Ranka has "Oz" blood (Zentradi type). I wouldn't be surprised if Grace ends up being a cyborg Dr. Mao Nome in the end...

Well, if you read the Official Chronology, the Protoculture developed the Zentradi 100 years after they started space colonization and they used them to expand their sphere of influence. - PC 2500s The mass production of giant biological weapons for proxy warfare, "Zentradi," is begun. The "Zentradi" contribute greatly to the expansion of the Protoculture's sphere of influence.[PC 2600s] - The PC possesed a Stellar Republic that dominated the whole galaxy, so no wonder they needed those massive armies of giants. Is a big galaxy, u know? So basically they just created the Zentradi for conquering/controlling the galaxy...

More and more I'm convinced the knife/blade in both the VF-25 and VF-27 have an energy shield... That's why they glow and why they are placed on the shield... Time will tell... Doesn't surprise me at all, since both the VF-22 and the VF-27 were developed by General Galaxy... Btw, check the shoulders in these 2 mechas... As posted by somebody else in the news thread, I believe that the VF-27 is intended as a capital ship/fighter interceptor mecha, while the VF-25 is more of a multipurpose fighter... The VF-27 is incredibly fast and (as revealed in episode 10) not even a human in ex-gear can survive its speed. It must be VR controlled by distance or manned by cyborgs (Brera?) or both (cyborg inside controlling it through VR imaging). As powerful as it is, it seemed to have a pretty rough time in close combat though... I can't wait to see Luca hack into one of these things!!!!

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Actually according to the Official Chronology of Macross developed by Studio Nue/Big West/Kawamori/etc. the Supervision Army was composed of brainwashed Protoculture and Zentradi. They had mecha and ships similar to those of the Zentradi. The Protodeviln were the true masters/creators of the Supervision Army. However, there's always the possibility that the Vajra could have been also developed by the Supervision Army Protoculture since they had advanced technology...

I already mentioned that according to the preview posted in the news thread, she got hurt during the accident (perhaps the other car ppl too)... The Griphon/Hydra caused them to crash, but it didn't eat them... Btw.. What a great episode...!!! So Grace O' Connor wants the SDR crystals in exchange of information. She's pulling Leon Mishima's strings... Maybe Leon isn't the bad guy most ppl believe. I remember the first time I saw SDF Macross I always thought Exsedol Formo and Vrilthwai Kridanik looked like really nasty bad guys... and u all know how they ended up in the series. Maybe the same thing will happen to Leon... Grace maybe the really baddie here... or just someone who is working both sides for some personal agenda... ooh so many possibilities... what a good plot!

A piece from me, hehe... I made it in a rush, so plz don't be hard on me, hehehe... I already posted it in the Klan thread... (Sadly it got locked up due to some pretty graphic fan art)... Will post the colored versions later...

Nope, but apparently she got hurt pretty bad when her car crashed because of the Griffon/Hydra... Perhaps the true terror is the V-Type infection? That's what caused the Hydra/Griphon to attack... Maybe the Vajra are attacking because they are infected by it and they spread the infection wherever they go... The infection must have been engineered in the Research fleet... Or by some corporate faction (Galaxy? A Nano Virus? Grey Goo scenario?)... I believe Sheryl Nome is Dr. Mao Nome's daughter... Since according to the Macross Compendium she has a strange blood type called "alpha", which must be the Mayan/Birdhuman type. Ranka Lee on the other hand has an "Oz" bloodtype, which is a Zentradi type... So I hardly believe she and Mao Nome are related... However, there's the possibility that Ranka was part of Dr. Mao's experiments and Ozma was ordered to take care of her by Dr. Mao... (This could explain the "fate" thing...).

Thanks Gubaba... Btw... I believe that Dr. Mao is Sheryl's mom and she gave her the Super Dimension Resonance Crystal earrings... She must have been like 45 years old when Sheryl was born. Dr. Mao must have been part of the 117th Research Fleet... That's why Ozma knows her... (and judging by Ozma's grim expression when he talked about her perhaps the experiments she made are what attracted the Vajra or she was captured/killed by them). Sheryl's blood type according to the Macross Compendium is a strange type called "Alpha"... Could this be the Birdman/Mayan blood? There's a very strong possibility she inherited it from her mother Dr. Mao Nome... However... Ranka and Brera are another story... Is probable they are both related (That's why they both know Aimo)... But Brera is now a cyborg and only has vague memories of his sister. Ranka can't be related to Sheryl since according to the Macross Compendium her blood type is "Oz"... a zentran blood type... She must have a Super Dimension Resonance Crystal inside her... That's what causes her belly "glow"... I also believe that Sheryl and Ranka were part of some experiment of Dr. Mao Nome to find the Birdman (with her sister on it)... But it attracted the Vajra instead. Maybe after the attack on the 117th, 2 different corporate factions got one part of the experiment each. The faction of Bilrer got Ranka (that's why Ozma's been babysitting her) and Grace's faction got Sheryl.... Bilrer's faction established on Frontier, while Grace's was on Galaxy. Each one wants to harness the power of controlling the Vajra. That's why they are competing and blocking each other... Who is controlling the Vajra? Perhaps what was left of the Birdman after it was nuked in Macross Zero (Thus... Shin and Sara are dead... Or maybe they fused with it...)...

When Brera appeared Ranka said "Onichan" shortly afterwards... Could he be what remains of her real brother? And again... a Super Dimension Resonance Crystal was shown... Grace in disguise gave it to Leon...

The Protodeviln were Super Zentradi developed by a Protoculture faction during the Protoculture Stellar Republic's Schism Wars and technically they were from THIS galaxy. They became possesed by beings from other dimension. ... Back to Episode 10 discussion...

Those are very good theories!!!