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I'm watching SDF Macross for the first time myself (currently watching Bye-Bye Mars). All I've ever known is Robotech (TMS), MII, M+, DYRL?, and 2012.... But now having seen SDF Macross...I'm more blown away by it than I am The Macross Saga. Take "Bye-Bye Mars" for example...I don't remember feeling as sad and sorry for Misa in the Robotech version, as I do in Macross TV. ...Anyway.

Well, I'm watching SDF Macross for the very first time...I'm already at Bye-Bye Mars, and I can tell you I love Macross TV more so than I do DYRL? DYRL? is awesome, but TV 0wnz DYRL? My vote is Macross TV

In Episode four (the scene with Minmay, Hikaru and the rats), what's the title of the BGM playing in the background?! And is it on the Macross Complete OST? And the BGM played after Minmay sings that song? Thnx in advance.

He looks thrilled! And I dislike the new uniforms.... They look cheap imo. The old uniforms looked better.

...I'm watching that battle again (between Guld and the Ghost) and I must say that is one F'n awesome battle! ~1:38:38 - 1:39:03 into the movie...that scene gives me goose bumps... Such awesome animation.....

I don't think that X-9 is more agile in space, remember that in 0 atmosphere you can't turn by using control surfaces of the plane cause the flight become inertial (play asteroids to get an idea). You need "verniers" to change direction. Plus faster speed result in a greater turn angle so more thrust is needed from the directional thrusters to be able to turn and you can't use airbrakes that in a way or an other affect inertial flight, if you want a good rendering of the inertial space fligt watch battlestar galactica 2004 or play Heavy gear 2 . I thought the X-9 had verniers..... And if I remember correctly, it looks as if both Guld and the X-9 make it out into space for a little while.... The X-9 still looked agile..... I dunno...could be wrong.... W/e.

lol!!! Good stuff!

Is it Mardook or Marduk?

I'm think episode 5 will probably disappoint. It'll end everything up...but it won't answer all the questions. Then I think Kawamori will surprise us with a 6th episode that will answer the rest of the unanswered questions. Tis what I'm thinking....I dunno what makes me say that.....just something that popped in my head.

I want my very own F-14 I don't want to see them retire! The F-14 is the first plane I fell in love with! It's part of the reason why I love Macross. Bah...!

I too liked T3 a lot, btw.

How would you propose on getting rid of all the humans? Skynet was all over the world....nuking the majority of the world wouldn't have killed it....

I read and was told it's a prequel, not a sequel.

I never played either of the games, so I don't know anything about the story. After seeing the trailer, I have one question. What's with the gay nut grabbing at the end? I mean, why the hell would that need to be in a video game?

What is the movie about? And is it available in English?

But what if I argued that Shin had indeed been all dead inside, and that it was his contact with Sara over the past 4 episodes that have healed him? He tells Sara that she's been so busy healing everybody else that she hasn't healed herself....why not include Shin in there somewhere? Guess that could be... but if it needs arguing for, rather than being made apparent in the narrative itself, then it points to something missing in the storytelling. It's pretty abrupt, either way-- Shin transformed from a vaguely annoying character without much personality or capacity for levity-- to someone much warmer and possessing an actual sense of humor. I would personally have preferred to see hints of these traits in pre-Sara and pre-Mao Shin, ie, joking more darkly and sarcastically with Edgar, or making the same sort of poignant observations about people around him, but through darker and more pessimistic eyes. Seems it'd make for more convincing development that way-- rather than transforming abruptly from "Every hates me, nobody likes me, you trust anyone and YOU DIE," Shin to love-happy-joking-sensitive-observant Shin. What I mean is that it's obvious Sara's affected Shin and is responsible for his new outlook. Floating rocks and boobies do that. But the actual transformation isn't as compelling as it could have been-- Shin seems to have traded personalities with someone in the matter of a single episode, rather than simply seeing things differently now than from before. -Al I thought Shin's character development was gradual, and not instantaneous.... As for the flying totem, there are two circle looking things under the totem that glow...I'm guessing it's what's keeping it afloat. ...The way I look at things with the flying rocks and stuff. When Sara sang, everything came to life... Music coming from her has that kind of power. Just like when Minmay sang and confused the Zentran...and brought peace, so to say. It's the power in their voice...one could say. Her voice made the rocks float...etc...... Isn't it what Macross is about though? Music, Love, Mecha? That being the case, I don't see a damn thing wrong with Macross Zero.

I just hope we get to see the SDF-1, and a VF-1 in the last episode.

Well, it seems I'm not the only one here convinced that it can't all be summed up in another 30 min episode. The whole thing with Roy, he was still flying when DD shot Roy's engine, I didn't seem him come crashing down. As for the flying totem, I have no problem with it. Just like Kieth has said about the Protoculture mastering mechanical science...if they can make wings change shape (like in Plus), why not have some biological science thrown in? Again with what Keith said and the Zentradi ("huge humans").

Capped from the ANBU/ANIMEONE version of Episode 2. It's the first mention of their Master/Apprentice relationship (much like the Dark Sith Lords). I didn't see that subbed version. As for the other copies...I must have a memory problem or something to not remember that.....

I thought it was established since episode 2 that DD is Roy's Instructor. Hmmm...not really. I'm quite sure everything can be cleared up by the next episode. What else do we really need to know? What is the APHOS-1? How is Mao and Sara connected to it? (they are probably descendants of Rooy Kanu) How does Roy take on DD and save the day? (VF-1....w00ts!!) And lastly, what happens to all the characters by the end of Macross Zero 5 and how it ties in with SDF Macross. I'm quite sure they can manage those. But don't expect too much. I think they're gonna leave out some stuff for viewers to make their own guesses. I don't remember either of the characters coming straight out stating that DD is/was Roy's instructor though.

I just saw the subbed version. ...For some reason I feel like there's still a lot to be explained...and with each episode being about 30 mins long, I'm not sure how they'll wrap everything up. It seems like there's an awful lot to wrap up. ...I think they should say "F making 5 episodes, lets make 6 insetad!" More detail/depth = $$$ I wasn't too surprised that DD was Roy's instructor at one pt in time.... I still don't see how they could possibly wrap everything up in the last 30 min episode...unless it were 45 to 60 min episode? o.O Bah...I can't wait for the next episode!

I have a really poor quality version of the movie on VHS. I got the copy from someone on the old AFM forum. I forget his name.... Anyway, it's not worth your time to watch it, and this is coming from a Robotech (TMS) fan.

Episode 4 can be found in this thread. As for episode 3, animesuki.com

I d/l-ed the episode last night and I finally got around to watching it just now. Definitely a beautiful episode. There wasn't a whole lot of action, but there was some. I can't wait to see what becomes of the AFOS (or Aphos, whichever is the correct spelling)! Tis all I can really think of to say. Guess you could say the episode has me dumbfounded. I can't wait for the subs to come out for this episode! ...And for some reason, I can't help but think that there's going to be a lot of action in episode 5. Thoughts, opinions?

!! I have to go buy Bloody Roar Extreme now!!!!