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Quick question, do they have a kit out of the ADF-01 Morgan fighter already? I like that one better than the Falken

Well Azrael, I already knew that the VF-11's design was inspired by most of the Flanker variants, particular the SU-33 and up since they have canards but I said somewhat, meaning moderatley or close to the side of the Su-27 but NOT 100% exactly like the Su-33. Same thing with the YF-21/VF-22, they were inspired by the Blackwidow II, but they don't look 100% exactly like it from the side or top angles but about 85-90% close to it. I didn't want to throw percentages in to the mix but if it helps then so be it. But quickly going back to the VF-22, since this fighter was inpsired by one design in particular,the YF-23, we can't say that it resembles any other comtemporary aircraft as I point out that somebody on this board told me that SK's VF-22 was inspired by the SU-27 variants as well but I see no evidence of this in the VF-22's design. As for the VF-1, we already know that it was primarily inspired by the F-14 as it's design aesthetics pretty much yell out to all of us that it was and that some of you guys are beginning to doubt that the VF-1 doesn't resemble the side of an F-18 but I think that it has something to do with the fact that you guys are concentrating on specific and distinct parts of the fighter and not on the outside shape where David said that the VF-1 has no LERX and possibly in addition to that, it doesn't have those semi-circle shaped air intakes the Hornet has. I was able to determine and assume that the VF-1's side looks like the F-18's just by focusing mainly on it's outside shape and not on specific areas and I'm convinced that if you guys do the same, you'll notice it more.

Sorry about that Dave. I was just telling a little bit more about myself if you don't mind but we'll go back to the topic like you politely asked. Once again, Seto pointed out that just because the design of one aircraft resembles another it doesn't necessarily mean that it was inspirational and since that was the case I had to resort to believing my other hypothesis that the side of the VF-1 was strictly coincidental since that's the way how aerospace designers's aircraft turn out when they design their aircraft. I'll even consider this possibility that the reason why some planes may use the design aesthetics of another is due to the fact that it may be useful to better improve the airflow or performance dynamics of the aircraft. To prove this, I'll use the design concept of the MIG-15 and the F-86. Back in the 50's when cold war broke out, the deadliest and succesful fighter at the time was the MIG-15. When the U.S noticed that their fighters (don't remember which one'e we used) were ineffective against the MIG-15, the U.S had to resort to taking the design of the MIG-15 to create the F-86 because it had the manueverability and performance needed to domnate the skies. I't best if you think of it logically from the designers perspective in the Macross series where the VF-11' s side looks a liitle bit like the SU-27 and that Shinsei Industries might have logically made it resemble the side of it because it was aerodynamically stable thanks to it's LERX. That's my hypothesis.

That's what I'm trying to do for my next semester in which I plan on actually becoming a game designer whereas being an aerospace engineering was an alternative for me if I couldn't make in the gaming Industry. I wanted to go to University of Maryland of College Park, but I didn't have the grades to get in but I plan on going to Devry University to get my bachelor's degree in game design and no, we don't have a bar on campus but we do have a relaxing room where you can watch TV play, SSMB on GameCube, play Tekken and even better, smoke on campus, no marijuana allowed. P.S I don't smoke either

Bowie State University in Bowie MD. A historical and predominately black college. I don't like it there because it doesn't offer alot of classes to major in. I wanted aerospace engineering but this college lacks it but there's alot of sexy black girls up in there which is the only thing I honestly like about it and the fact that we have a KFC and Pizza Hut Express on campus.

Wow, somebody decided to post a new message in my topic over a month since some people lost interest it in earlier1 Im flattered.

In the end, I'll just simply say that it maybe a coincidence that the side of the VF-1 looks somewhat like a the F-18 because when I think about my favorite VF, the Valkyrie 2, I noticed that the side view of this fighter coincidentely looks somewhat like the side of an SU-27 but I won't say that the creator of this Valk was inspired by the Su-27 to make the side of the VF-2SS resemble it. Seto, thanx for making that point earlier about how one design of an aircraft doesn't mean it was inspired by another.

Just to clarify, you meant my katakana writing of Mardook and Gigamesh, right? No one else in this thread used katakana. 392767[/snapback] Yes I mean you're writing is correct.

As for me, I can read, speak and write Japanese 85% fluently and Oihan is right with that katakana writing of the Marduk

Now that I think about, if we were to make the OFF-TOPIC section indefinetly off topic then the forum will be flooded with cultural and politcal garbage and that will cause too much controversy. So I think that as long as it relates to anime, sci-fi, science, technology and stuff chances are that user topics may stay without having to be locked or deleted.

I see what youre saying Dave about the VF-1 using small specific parts to resemble the F-14 and I do agree with you about it slightly resembling the F-18 a little more from the side if the vertical fins were slightly shifted forward from it's normal position and in addition to that, if the nose cone was more drooped down rather than curving upward slightly, one way or the other, it still looks somewhat like an F-18 jfirst hand just from the SIDES strictly without key details of the F-18 with the LERX you stated IMO. However, I thinks it 's best if you think of this as being somewhat on par with optical illusions. Like that famous old lady and the beautiful mistress where from an angle it appears that she's looking away from us but if you look closer, we see the old lady where the girls chin makes up her nose and her ears make up the old lady's eyes. If that example won't work then here's this. One good example to explain my reasoning would be the 2000-2006 Toyota Celica's. From the side view and from an angle, it resembles a lamborghini only with a little more height, but from the front and rear of the car, it looks original. That's the point I was trying to prove with the VF-1. And once again, I know that the VF-1 still looks like an F-14 from many angles except from the side possibly IMO. Also, it was just a hypothetical possibitly that the VF-1 SOMEWHAT resembles the F-18 from the SIDES, NOT a guarantee because I know that I may be wrong.

I'm fully aware of fact the VF-1 still resembles an F-14 in terms of shape and the trademark charcteristics (i.e variable geometry sweeping wings and spaced out twin engines) on the overall if you look at from the top, bottom or at an angle but like I said before, from the side view of the fighter, it pretty much resembles the side view of an F-18 IMHO. I'm too lazy to go find pictures to show the comparison and resemblance between the two. However, I may be wrong and that the side of the VF-1 may have been coincidental with the F-18

OK, here's the deal with this topic. I remember 2 years ago when Macross Milcomnet was still up, I was looking at that one VF-1 that had that Blue Angels paint scheme to it and from the side view, the VF-1 looks somewhat very close to an F-18 Hornet. So I had to ask, do you think that SK was also inspired by the F-18 as well? Aside from the general fact that the VF-1 was inspired by the F-14,the side view of it does look somewhat similar to the side of an F-18 and the way how the vertical fins of the VF-1 are close and slighlty angled outward just like the vertical fins of the F-18 from the front view. Since the F-18 came out in 1976 and Macross came out in 1982, I feel that SK drew some inspiration from the design of the F-18 and tried to incorporate it into the VF-1. So now the question is, is it me or I'm the only one who noticed this?

IMHO, I think it would be good to have an off topic forum because we can discuss culture, music, history, pop culture, current events and politcs and that way, we can learn more about each other and talk about things and issues that are bothering us. Or for a solution nobody hasn' t suggested, make another off topic section for things like culture and politcs and keep the Anime and Sci-Fi related stuff in that forum. Think of it a s a win/win situation for both sides.

Mislovrit, thanx for the info about the P-38. I had no idea that it spawned so many variants. As for the Spitfire being the #5 fighter plane in the world thats the best according to aviation historians, the Spitfire Mk XIV was different from the standard model due to the fact that this one boasted four 20 MM cannons opposed to the 8 yes 8 20 MM cannons the original one used. If I were Brit, I would stick to the Spitfire Mk I because of it's additional armament of 8 cannons for added offensive power. Also, Mislovrit since the Ta-152 was designed soley for high altitude intercept of bomber planes, I was just insisting that it could use it's high altitude capabilities to its advantage over any plane that lacked high altitude capabilities. P.S "Hayabusa" means peregrine falcon

How bout this matchup the P-38 vs the Ta-152 Focke Wulfe. Do you know which one would win? The Focke Wulfe would win. Why? Due to the fact that since this plane was optimized for the high altitude bomber intercept and destroy role, the pilot would be able to use this desgnated role to it's advantage over the P-38 since the main problem with it is that the engines would freeze at high altitudes and it's maneuverability is a little sluggish due to it's design or weight.(I think) Also Dave, stay safe from that mumps outbreak in Iowa, I don't want you to get seriously ill.

Shin, as for that matchup involving the Mustang and a Zero-sen, it's pretty obvious which would win, not to insult your intelligence or anything. The mustang will kick the Zero's ass because it's faster and more maneuverable than the slow Zero fighter, but if the Ki-84 Hayate "Oscar" were to go up against it, I think it would be draw since it's performance equals the Mustang. BTW Shin, I had no idea that you had such a huge infatuation with WW2 planes. I honestly assumed that you were in to modern jet planes like some other people. As for you guys here's the rundown of my fav WW2 Battle birds: America: Fighter's P-51 P-38 P-40 P-47 P-61 F-5U Flying Pancake "prototype plane that never entered service" P-55 Ascender "prototype plane that never entered service" Bombers: B-29 B-35 Flying Wing B-36 Peacemaker B-47 Flying Wing Japanese Fighters" Zero Shinden Hayate Seiran Bombers: Fugaku British: Hawker Siddley Hurricane Spitfire German: BF-109 Shtuka Ta-152 Focke Wulfe Me-262 Italian: Fiat G.56 Russian: Polykarpov

It's funny that you mention this Death Hammer because in case you did/didn't know, the Japanese have a huge fetish with American/European culture which epitomizes why some Japanese charcters, whether they be male or female, have Caucasian features and Misa from Macross was perfect example you mentioned there. As I was growing up, I never fully understood why my Japanese brethren(yes, I'm 1/5 Japanese) sometime drew Japanese people that looked white, but now I know. However, I think it strongly has to do with the fact that you most of the time see more white women in TV drama series than with black women in which they're portrayed with those same characteristics that you pointed out DH. And of course, DH, you're right about the Japanese making ideal female characters based on women they've never seen or met in real life due to the obvious fact that Japan is pretty much a homogenous society and the people don't get out of the country so much.

Sorry to quickly go off topic with this debate and discussion on WW2 aces but for anybody that's interested or probably does/doesn't know about this, there was an F-14 variant called Tomcat 21 which actually the proposed F-14D Super Tomcat concept design. I have a link to the story below that also contains pics of it. I think that redesign of the main body/glove vane's area was great despite the F-14's main body looking slightly more circular than the original F-14. I also didn't know that the F-14 was actually intended to have TV engines but Grumman decided not to incorporate them to the aircraft: http://www.topedge.com/alley/text/other/tomcat21.htm Alright guys, carry on with your normal discussion about WW2 aces!

Hey guys, I noticed that this is a Gundam thread that mainly centers on the UC AC series of shows but does anybody like SD Gundam Force because I honestly do and I think it's rather cute funny and action packed for somewhat of a childish looking 3-D cel-shaded anime series1MHO . I especially liked the Zako Zako hour at then end of the show; those three Zako's really crack me up. It's a shame that CN took it off the air for two years now but I can't wait till CN get's the second season to it.

But get this Rocket Punch, that would be a good thing for a women to not have periods because they won't be able to deficate with all those germs bacteria and virus' they have in their urine, blood or stools. So imagine having to fug a bitch without having to worry about giving you an STD or even worse HIV/AIDS.

Dave I gotta suggest that you use the neutral grey or light grey for whatever you're working on. I really don't like using white when it comes to me coloring planes and such, I think it takes away from the color, but it basically depends on what shade of red you're using. If its a dark red, stick with white. Light red, use a neutral to light grey on it. The key is to use opposite shades to counterblance each side of colors.

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When I think about there's a possibility that Japan may hypothetically may have VF-11's and VF-19's as part of their new ASDF division since Shinsei Industries is a Japanese based aerospace company and the U.S.A may have YF-21\VF-22's since I believe that General Galaxy is an American aerospace company. However, I do think that all countries around the world that are still intact may all share the same VF's that the UN Spacy produce and obviously don't produce their own original ones

Wait evirus, is it that Pheyos VF from Macross VF-X 2? If so, that's not what I was talking about or unless it's something I have never seen before.