People were claiming that he was showing off his joke machines because he kept bumping his own threads showing his collection of joke machines off. Then someone proved him wrong that his collection wasnt the best that there was. Datterboy wanted the rep of being KING of joke machines. It became a flame war and got quite insulting on both sides. After that Datter never really posted anymore and now this. So I don't think we should point any fingers here saying somebody is an "A" hole.