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LOL... welcome to MacrossWorld he who layeth the smacketh down.

It's a gamble of sorts, and if I get a ridiculous bonus I may just buy them at release, but the LV1 was limited and floundered for a while. Many people may have witnessed the value rise of the LV1 and be determined not to let that happen again but I think the luke warm response to the colors chosen should lead to a short-term excess of supply.

Well, just look at the LV2 right now or the first edition YF-19. It's not too hard to come by those dirt cheap brand new.

I'm getting both... but I won't be preordering them or buying them within a month of their release. Much like the LV1, I'll wait until they go on sale for $100 for the VF-1 and $140 for the YF-19, then I'll scoop them up.

Don't forget, Hollywood is all about the trilogy and RT is a trilogy already on its own. I'm sure there will be a ton of altering to the story and designs but i wouldn't be surprised if the movie, in the hopes that it will be the first, has a similar start and end (sans the reconstruction arch) as TMS.

On the BP8, a BIG factor in causing those to break is often that little triangluar antenna on the back of the vehicle. If you make sure that is collapsed you won't have to add any extra pressure on the BP8 and that should keep you safe. I learned that the hard way.

Yamato's version 2s can take well over a year (Roy VF-0S) or only a few months (1/60 YF-19) or never happen at all. With the Nora scheduled for release we might see some improvements in design right away but that doesn't mean we'll see a new Ivanov right away. Scream Man, don't forget it took a while to find out the 0 had huge shoulder troubles... we might not have seen the last of the SV-51's problems just yet.

Another thing to consider, black shows stress marks REALLY well.

What's with the mega image quote? This would give A7 an aneurism on the spot.

[vent] Okay, so I'm seeing now that the anniversary valks are up for preorder. Has it occurred to anyone else that we're getting completely friggin' ripped off by Yamato (and others) these days? How many people wanna bet the new YF-19 doesn't come with fast packs or a fold drive? Are you still going to spend $200 to get it (after shipping and all that good stuff)? Graham stated that the 1/48 was initially expected to be a very limited scale series featuring only a few extremely popular paint schemes yet the 1/48 VF-1 did not debut with a price tag of $200... it was much closer to $100 (about $130-$150 to get one to the states). So, if the 1/48 was only that much and was only expected to have three or so repaints, and it's clear we're going to get at least that many with the YF-19, why the $50 idiot tax? It doesn't stop there though, even the VF-1 has gone up in price despite the fact that mold was probably profitable five releases ago. Now I know one of my fellow economists is thinking "Dude, it's the value of the Yen to the dollar." Really? If that were true the most expensive point to buy 1/48 VF-1 toys would have been January of 05 and they'd be CHEAPER right now. In fact, our dollar was as strong as the day the first 1/48 was released in recent history (admittedly it has slumped recently... but it's still well above where it was for the majority of 05. It strikes me as terribly odd that this is a board of typically very friendly members yet we haven't been able to do a lot more to save each other money. It also saddens me that when people do go out of there way to try to save people some funds we get members like Agent GHQ trying to ruin it for everyone. I wish Amenbo didn't disappear . [/vent]

Aren't all those things considered fixed as of the fast pack release?

Robotech's The Macross Saga is 90% the same as Macross so you can kind of envision the Macross you know and love as being the starting point here. The biggest difference then is that the Protoculture have been replaced by a group known as The Robotech Masters and the term Protoculture now refers to a biological mega energy source. So yeah, spaceship crashes on Earth, is refurbished and attacked on launch date, folds beyond Pluto, Zents try to capture it instead of destroy it, Zents in-fight, Zents get corrupted by Minmay's singing, Dolza shows up to destroy Earth and all the corrupted Zents, corrupted Zents and SDF-1 win at a huge human cost. Those are the pretty big plot points that likely will receive some serious altering for this movie. My vote is for an unknown fighter to replace the F-14 as the valk's origin, I think it'd be too much a Starscream rip-off at this point to make it too similar to the F-22. Who thinks they opt for "direct mind control" of the mech? Seeing as Robotech already implied this in their novels, I wouldn't be surprised to see the movie go that way.

Yeah, think of it this way, HG owns the right to the show itself and has the ability to sell whatever they want to support that property they own (outside Japan). They do NOT own the rights to the designs though so they can NOT use those designs for anything NEW (video games and comics being excepted, I believe because they can still be considered promotional items for that piece of animation they own).

You would think... but I've seen numerous examples of the yellowing on the CFs (mostly TRU) gear bay doors yellowing, my own included. Other than that though, everything has seemed fine.

I have a few 1/60s and the only one showing yellowing is my TRU CF, it has a couple landing gear doors that just ain't right. Fortunately, I don't do DYRL Paint schemes so that helps limit my losses.

I haven't seen any prices. I can say that the Toynami Beta price was always more of an excuse not to make the product rather than an actual price that they determined. I have no doubt that that toy will cost no where near that amount. Those are the old pics, we know that CMs is currently re-working the toy so there's a chance this looks nothing like the final product. Patience, it's too soon to say whether or not the final product will please or disappoint.

I think you guys are nuts to think Toynami would be involved in any toys for a new Robotech movie. This would be a new project with its own rights that could go to anyone and we know Toynami doesn't have much in the way of production capacity so it seems far fetched to think they'd try. Well, one scenario I suppose would have Toynami and another company getting the rights, that other company would make the common toys while Toynami released "high end collectibles" like another MPC. On another note, it's been a pretty safe bet for the last 10 years that we were never going to have any legitimate Macross products in the US and this doesn't change anything. If HG can't have their hand in the pot, we're not getting Macross items. If people were hoping HG would just vanish then this probably doesn't help there... I'm sure HG stands to make some money off this deal.

I'll be pretty surprised if CMs makes a January release. Originally Toynami said the Cyclones would hit this fall.... I don't see that happening either. The only thing that seems likely is the December MegaHouse release.

I think we can all agree that the licensing issues essentially mean the Macross portion of Robotech will not be much like Macross at all. I don't think we need to worry about if the Regult has enough cool factor... the only things the aliens would likely have in common is their size. The humans may retain their names but I'm guessing we'll lose "Minmay" as a name also and I'd have to guess all the aliens would be due for new names as well (and I'll bet the term "Zentraedi" wouldn't exist either). More realistically, I wonder how long we'll have to wait before determining this will never actually come out.

Holy crap man, I hope you had some wood to knock on whilst typing that DND! That's almost like saying "I've never had a problem with a yamato first edition" as you put in an order for a VF-0S

GCM lends itself remarkably well to a movie because so much of it is disposable (charming... but disposable). If RT is going movie form I'd love to see them treat it like a trilogy with all three parts getting their own movie (but obviously tied much closer together... like have Leonard be Gloval's second in command or something). I'm at work so I can't scan through but I wonder if the thought of this happening was part of the reason Shadow Chronicles was so deliberately vague. Maia is half "alien" because the aliens might all get new names. Earth's history is summed up in 1 minute because the events might be altered.

the 1/60 line, i find, is very prone to yellowing. It's really obvious on the landing gear doors on the legs... it's not at all uncommon to see yellowing there. It's not light or heat though, i've known some well stored ones that came out yellow, it seems that Yamato just had the occasional problem with the plastic which causes some to break down pretty quickly. You can also tell it's not being caused by outside conditions because of how uneven it happens, as redemption has mentioned.

The three on the left are their poseable figures, probably a bit larger to accomodate joints (that don't work).

You can see more pictures of those, and read about them, by clicking HERE. Here's a picture from my review to help you judge how big they are:

Fortunately the most profitable Macross item out there is the VF-1 so there can always be hope for a retooled 1/60 VF-1 in the future. I, for one, would love to see it and I know there have been threads where others made the same claim. It's sad that so many cool toys are getting remarkable 1/60 treatment (although sure, those toys suited them better to 1/60 because of their larger proportions) while the VF-1 got what was clearly a beginner's effort. How cool would it have also been if you could take your 1/60 VF-0S Roy and put him in you 1/60 YF-19 and then put him in your 1/60 VF-1? That's not gonna happen... but it woulda been cool.