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    The Newbie and Short Questions thread

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    High-Year Tenure is presumable still a thing in the Macross worlds, just like in Real Life....

    There is an unspoken reason why costs would be prohibitive to field the VF-22 in large numbers: Proprietary technology that requires specialized (Private Contractors) technicians to do certain tasks. In RL examples, modern Farming Equipment (and some big rig trucks) are examples of how people curse the products they own because they themselves aint allowed to fix their gear. The F-35 JSF or the infamous LCS Freedom and Independence-class ships are also examples of that plot twist (I'm so glad I retired before the transition of legacy Hornets to Lightnings occurred as I heard horror stories about F-35 Peculiar Support Equipment).

    Training is going to specific, not matter what platform the location requires (and unless it's proven that its economical to ship trainees across worlds/systems for training on the end-type of unit they will work on, each world or colony will do their own thing for training (likely following what happens on Earth for example of procedure first before deviations). It's not gonna matter if AD3 Jones on Macross Butthead is trained to put A into B using the C tool and AD3 Maxipad on the planet Beavis is trained to put A into B using his face. Both Jetmechs are gonna do it their training, originally based on Earth but adapted to their unique location.

    here's a random thought: Fasanomics. Some sick &^%$ should create a list NECs (Navy Enlisted Codes*) for each Valkyrie engine currently or previously in production. Would that require 4 or 5 digits?

    * NECs are arguable the same as MOS's but ridiculous more specific (closer to the AF than anything) but day to day, you're still AD3 (or Petty Officer) Jones and Maxipad, when being mustered at 7am. Example, I held like 6 or 7 NECs in my career, being trained on *deep breath* Cyrogenics, Shore GPUs, Shore Hydraulics, Sea GPUs, Shore Towing and Pushbacks and Sea Crash Cranes (both CV and LH).

    The Newbie and Short Questions thread

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    12 hours ago, SebastianP said:

    So much this. 

    Trying to find the "real story" is an exercise in futility because everything is subject to change, even the stuff written currently in the Chronicle can be thrown out if Kawamori decides to write something set earlier in the timeline again, and introduce new mecha in the process. Like what happened with Macross Zero, which conflicted with a bunch of previously established lore and introduced the VF-0, which had to be given *that* particular non-sensical designation for reasons. 

    Best answer to whether something is actually true is "does multiple sources agree on it"? 

    So, we can say Frontier fought Galaxy and the Vajra in 2059, and landed on the Vajra planet after exhausting their resources, because all the sources agree. Sheryl and Ranka definitely exist, they're referenced as inspirations for the characters in both versions of Delta. The statuses of Sheryl, Alto and Michael? Take your pick, because this is one where the sources definitely disagree...

    (Though it feels like Michael has more evidence supporting his survival than not, given that he lives through the movies, that Labyrinth of Time directly follows the movies, and he lives in Macross 30, in which the characters appear to come from a post-Vajra War timeline in which somehow everyone survived and are well. )

    So yeah, broad strokes.

    An alien starship crashed in 1999. There was a war in the 00s between people who wanted a unified government and people that didn't. The Zentraedi showed up and bombarded earth into a wasteland, and were defeated by the crew of the rebuilt alien starship and the civilians they'd rescued. Hikaru and Misa were heroes of the war, Kakizaki and Focker both existed and both died. Did the SDF really dock with the Daedalus and Prometheus though? We'll never know because the versions don't agree with each other. 

    There was an incident involving Sharon Apple and a pair of hot blooded fighter jocks flying prototype machines in the early 2040s. Did it *actually* involve mind-controlling people to the point where they managed to launch the *Macross*? Normally I'd go "what are you smoking" if someone tried to tell me that thing was in any shape to fly after 30 years in a lake being used as an ornament. 

    Fire Bomber became very popular in the 2040s. Whether they actually had any of the adventures from Macross 7 in the real timeline, or flew VFs with musical instruments for controls? Your guess is as good as mine.

    Galaxy and Frontier both entered Vajra space and go their asses kicked by the Vajra until communications were established in 2059, Galaxy was destroyed in the process. Ranka made a name for herself. Frontier settled on the Vajra home planet. All agreed on in both versions and referenced in later material.

    Is Sheryl still sick? No idea. Is Alto missing? No idea. Did Michael die? No idea. Given that official material exists that go both ways *and* there's what appears to be a "golden ending" referenced in Macross 30? Make up your own story. (Hell, aside from Sheryl and Ranka, who are named in Delta, do we even know if there was an Alto or a Michael at all...?)

    And the reason all this ambiguity is a *good* thing is because Kawamori is not constrained by having to tell the same story twice, and can surprise us with some pretty choice twists. Like how, because watchers of the Frontier TV series knew that Michael died in it, they were able to fake us out with his apparent death in both movies and still have him alive at the end of it. Likewise the other fate-alterations from the second movie. 

    To paraphrase Ramba Ral: These are no compilation movies! No compilation movies!

     

     

     

    The makers of other IPs (Coff Star Trek) could have made use of the same advice... certainly the Continuity nerds wouldn't raged quite as much

    Also your comment is Spot On.

    The Newbie and Short Questions thread

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    Posted · Edited by TehPW
    Clarity

    17 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

    Ah, this one's doin' the rounds again.

    Yeah, for whatever reason the Movie Edition of Macross Plus changed Isamu's assigned callsign for YF-19 test flights from Alpha-1 to Eagle-1 but didn't change Guld's YF-21 callsign from "Omega-1".  No idea why, because they had a theme going with the OVA version having "Alpha-1" and "Omega-1".  Every bit of creator commentary I have on hand just goes on and on about the digital animation technology they used.

    Isamu does briefly go by an "Eagle" callsign in the OVA version though.  It's when he's in his VF-11 on approach to New Edwards, and calls in a sighting of an unknown aircraft (the YF-21) using his assigned callsign of Eagle-107.

    OK so its a thing... as far as English and other translations... but when the movie premiered in Japan [in 1995], did the error originate in Japan? If so, Why?

    I'm on the position that the error wasn't Japanese in nature (but later on) but it's intriguing if it did...

    The Newbie and Short Questions thread

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    a Couple days ago on FB, UN SPACY did a post about Isamu's call signs in the OVA and Movie of M+. In the OVA, when testing the YF-19, he was called Alpha-One. In the Movie, he was called Eagle-One (at least in the Spanish dub). I can't personally remember any difference (especially when i saw the movie last year with my kid) but was that dual designation an American script error or was that duality also in the original Japanese version?

     

    and if that's true, why did the Japanese version do that?

    Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!

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    13 minutes ago, pengbuzz said:

    I sometimes wonder if the Protoculture were intending to return for many of the things they supposedly  "sealed". It would explain why they weren't outright destroyed...

    You are implying that this Galaxy (if not this universe) was a dumping ground for missing Protoculture Amazon products? That's a big dip into Pandora's Box (to actually conjecturize the Protoculture day-to-day goings on)... Now if you can come up with a way to sell Toys & models running with that idea, there's your next Macross series (on Netflix)?

    Andor (Star Wars: Andor) - Disney+

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    13 minutes ago, azrael said:
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    Karn 😍 Meero....ewww. Down boy. Just...no. Two Javerts in one story is too many.

    Andor making a jailbreak...meh. We knew he wasn't staying in there.

    Mon Mothma...I think you've found as many allies in the Senate as you're gonna find at this point. Luthen had the right idea; just start stealing the money. "Donations" can be tracked.

     

    I wonder. Is the reason Mon Mothma was on Yavin because she no longer had a job (with the disestablishment of the Imperial Senate) or had she been on the lamb since around or before Rogue One?

    The Newbie and Short Questions thread

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    On 10/31/2022 at 1:45 AM, Seto Kaiba said:

    The one in the VF-25 Master File?  No.  It was a rescue operation launched on the spur of the moment by a NUNS ship observing the Macross Valiant fleet's emergency fold away from a Zentradi main fleet it'd found in its immediate vicinity.  The carrier Barbarossa and its fighters were operating under ECM in an attempt to remain undetected by as much of the Zentradi main fleet as possible while carrying out the rescue of the environment ship Sentosa's 1,200 crew and passengers and the subsequent destruction of the Sentosa by MDE warhead to prevent any possibility of intel on humanity falling into Zentradi hands.

    So NOBODY even wants to try to change the Zentradi MO (aka Mission Statement: We get out of the anti-Supervision business and get into the Destroy really, really dangerous Protoculture stuff (to protect the galaxy)? Give them a new mission? There is no chance of diplomacy with the Badolzas that all run their fleets?

    Enterprise-A LEaves Spacedock (fan video)

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    Posted

    5 hours ago, Mommar said:

    The volumnetric fog in Blind as a Bat looked spectacular.  Didn't care for the phaser animation though.

    Yeah, that might be the one lament i have about the several artists i posted links about: Some aspects are specular (and some aspects pedestrian). I'm sturggling to find the one video that includes changes in view angle during the pre-nebula battle (like the Reliant was about 45 degrees above the Ent when it appears on their view screen). Its things like that, that made the trek Otaku in me to scream in glee. The L-374 clip i loved save how the Constellation flees by rotating so mechanically and listless...

    Enterprise-A LEaves Spacedock (fan video)

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    There are several very talented CG artists who have to done either fan clips or edits of clips...

    Quantum Designs AZ

    (13) Mutara: The Chase - YouTube

    (13) L-374 - YouTube

    Delimited Productions

    (13) #13 "Blind as a Bat" - Mutara Battle Finale (Star Trek Wrath of Khan CG REDUX) - YouTube

    JTVFX

    Then you got this oldy...

    (13) Star Trek Continues E08 "Still Treads the Shadow" - YouTube

    Not there are some flaws (some so so tiny to be effectly non-existent) and there is one clip i cannot remember who did but was so excellent with view management... all all these gets Chocholate Chip Cookies...

     

    The Newbie and Short Questions thread

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    1 hour ago, Seto Kaiba said:

    Sort of.  The VF-1D's tandem cockpit was an improvised design that made room for the second seat by removing a lot of the escape and survival equipment in the rear of the one-man cockpit block.  This made it unsafe to operate in space.

    The VT-1 Ostrich has an enlarged cockpit space with an elevated second seat so the instructor has full visibility and the full suite of escape and survival options for both pilot and instructor.  Making this all fit required some changes to the shape of the nose block and lower chest plate, which in turn necessitated some changes to how the "backpack" folds.

    and this *was* a IRL circumstance (how the super parts would not fit on a VT/E frame)? Because wouldn't it (IG) be easier ON the airframe to just change it (either enlarge or lengthen the front & back sections)?

    The Newbie and Short Questions thread

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    On 10/10/2022 at 11:49 AM, Seto Kaiba said:

    The Grand Cannon concept didn't really do so great in the First Space War.  It fundamentally assumes the enemy's going to achieve orbital supremacy, and at that point you're very likely already hosed, as was the case in its only use.

    You forget: How many Grand Cannons on earth (and the moon) was being built/excavated at the time of Eps 27? Had the UNS had the time, maybe their plan (Defense of the Orbital region by Offense 360 beams) Might have worked...

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