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So they are railguns. Talk about different artist's renditions.... The wings look better in the closed position on Freedom. Nu Freedom's wings look better in the open position. At least it can still pull of it's 5-shot attack, assuming it has the dual beam rifles. Not to happy about the chest gun though.... I still say those things on the arms are reflectors. Freedom is the only MS that has the capacity to use that kind of weapon. The frame still looks the same. It could be an upgrade. Maybe Shinn vents his rage on Freedom....

Focker was referring to all the older planes (F-14s, F/A-18s, etc). You might have a bad sub though. Focker was referring to how the VF-0 handles compared to the normal planes (i.e. it transforms, it's all-environment, etc)

The Invid Overlord (aka Gosamu) Oh you know, the anime-nazi kind who can't get over themselves.....they'll be the ones that are angry. Didn't we criticize that thing a year ago?

I'm sure they cleaned him up. What you see is when they immediately bring him back from his near barbeque grave.

From the other pics...it just looks like a vent.

Destiny is just filled with stuff from other series... (from 4chan)

Dang...u can't store the beam axe in the shield..... The main body frame is the same. Obviously parts of the armor have changed (shoulders are slightly different, hip armor/railgun assembly is different, the forarms are modified and the HiMAT system is redesigned, just to name the obvious), but the actual main body is still the same. Yeah, we need a better view. What we need is lineart that shows the hips bare without the beam rifles attach at the hip armor.

Word is, yes. However, since we won't see a fully armored Vader until the very end (like the last 5 minutes of the movie)...don't expect a whole bunch of lines. In fact, he might only have 3... maybe 5 lines at most....

Something doesn't look right about those railguns....

That would be scary if it was real....(it's from 2ch, and a lot that stuff is fan art). If it is real.....eep. Shinn's knows another blonde...and their sharing the same room....

That's it huh? Guess I didn't miss anything.....With that new pic, I started to disect Nu Freedom. From the looks of it, it doesn't have funnels. A psycommu or psychframe would be useful but Freedom's a pretty darn good suit in its vanilla form at the moment. How much can Kira really push on that MS that would require tech for a Newtype. A psycommu/psychoframe would be the only possibility but does Nu-Freedom really need it? I get the feeling that Nu-Freedom has a reflector on it. It is the only MS that can meet a reflector's power requirements at this moment (Until I get Destiny's specs, I can't say) and it would fit with Nu-Freedom. But I could be wrong about it. Damn you Fukada! I would say the DRAGOON system has an amazingly low latency or response time. The weapon pods of Chaos don't seem to react as fast as a DRAGOON or as fast as Exass' gunbarrels.

Exass has wired gunbarrels (watch episode 3 and look for the wires). Chaos has wireless weapon pods. Unfortunately, there isn't enough info on Chaos to say whether or not it has the DRAGOON system. For some reason, Chaos's weapon pods don't seem to act like funnels/bits. But I could be wrong. We'll just have to wait for detailed info on Chaos.

Weak people also ALWAYS complain about the complainers when the complainers point out the truth that no one wants to hear.

And if you look at any poll, their not accurate since normally, they never actually take a complete sample. When you see news reports about polls saying this or that, notice that the sample group is significantly smaller when applied to the larger group. Margins of error are applied but it is still not a complete nor accurate poll.

The pic that came out earlier show the 2 beam rifles stored at the hip. Nu Freedom could still have the 2 beam rifles and mount them on the hips next to the rail guns. It could still work. It just dawned on me that the parts on the arms could be reflectors, not deflection armor. This would be quite an upgrade for Freedom cuz he can literally stop a positron blast. And we've only seen MAs mount those things. If Nu-Freedom were to mount one...

Hummm, besides those. I'm thinking of things besides funnels or bits (or G-bits) that might be added to Nu-Freedom. From the way it looks, Nu Freedom might not have funnels. The plasma cannons in the wings are gone. From a previous pic, Nu-Freedom will have 2 beam rifles and the rail-guns, or at least part of them will stay. Or maybe it won't have have any Newtype weapon...Moonlight Butterfly-type?

Yeah, not much of an upgrade for Freedom. Unfortunately Athrun's head is blocking the rest of the hip railguns so they may not be railguns anymore. Either that or they're drawn for effect than actual lineart. But we'll see. Nu-Freedom's head is slightly different. Don't know what those things on the forearms are. They could be "Geschmeidig Panzer" armor (Forbidden). Who knows. maybe when (spoiler highlight to read) when Andy and Lacus head to PLANT, they come back with some goodies for Freedom. On a side note, are there any Newtype device besides funnels and bits that I've forgotten about?

At the end, Yoda blames himself for the Jedi's downfall. Saying he was too strict, yada yada yada. If you think about it, there's a parallel between the Jedi of the prequels and the Empire. There's a strong sense of control like micromanagement. Eventually someone breaks the mold and things start breaking apart. It was. Instead of small little pieces, everything became unified and the crap in the system was removed. I don't know about that. There's no real indication if slavery was wiped out since the scoop of Tatooine in the original trilogy was more focused.

To paraphrase a witty comment, there's a guy named Year 2000 outside. He says he wants his joke back...

Unfortunately, history has dictated that all M7 threads end like this. edit: At one time someone posted a light hearted story about M7 and how it inspired him/her (I think is was justvinnie from the old board). Then people come along and post the same usual "it sucks" stuff. Then the pro-M7 group counters, then the anti-M7 crowd comes back, and so forth. This is why people like Keith have stopped posting in these types of threads. As part of the pro-M7 crowd, am I arguing the merits of M7? No. Why should I? It just leads to endless debate which goes nowhere. Which is why all of these threads end up the same way.

Footnote 2: That can be said about a lot of series, not just Macross in general. Some people are already calling Gundam Seed Destiny a disappointment. The series isn't even at the half-way point and people are labelling it bad. At one point on the wayback machine, I thought Evangelion was boring and not worth it. That was from only watching episode 1 and 2. Was my opinion really justifible if I haven't actually finished the series? No, cuz I haven't finished the damn series. How do I know it won't be better or worst later in the series? I don't. So the arguement doesn't just apply to M7/M2 or any Macross.

Not like we haven't known what's going to happen for about what...20 years? All Episode 3 will do is provide the details.

Unfortuantely Graham, we live in a world that has a slight pack mentality. If one person doesn't like it, then another gets influenced by that opinion and follows the leader. Think of the person who passes judgement on certain food yet has never actually eaten that food. The same applies. As my mom told me growing up, if you don't try it, how do you know it doesn't taste good? The best thing to do is mark the opinion as incomplete. Funny...the valk designs never bothered me when I watched it 10 years ago. That was actually my first problem. Although having never watched a long-running animated TV series, I thought it was moving too slow. Then I watched Maison Ikoku (Maison is 95/96 episodes long for you kids who've never seen it and it virtually repeats itself every episode) Marmalade Boy (76 episodes). That certainly changed my opinion of M7 's pacing. There are days when Fire Bomber sounds soooo much better than idol pop (Minmay).

The only ones who would know that are the clones. Any since all those clones are wearing practically the same thing, it's kinda hard to tell if one's out on a hot date since the squad mates can stand in for the missing clone. Heck, a new clone can replace the one making babies and no one would notice.

A clone wouldn't necessarily be as strong with the force, and even if they were, there'd be all that time taken to educate, train, & hope they turn out as angry & prone to evil. It's a lot faster to just fix up the bust'd Vader And Vader was already full of rage. Use it, mold it, make it work for you. Or the clothes burnt away from the heat. It looks like he's only got his pants. In that state, he probably doesn't feel much. Might as well put on some limbs if he doesn't feel anything.