Mommar

It's such a cool toy and well engineered but... it's not my beloved SDF Macross version. I just can't spend the money on the one I don't like as much.

Holy crap, I could not pass some of those prices up!

I'll be watching this thread closely. I can't wait to see what you do with it!

My vote is for Max, I always thought of him as so genuine and humble. A nice guy who could have let ego get the best of him for pretty much being able to beat anyone else.

Again, as stated earlier those magazine pics are just of the painted or photoshopped resin prototype, they are not representative of the final product.

Graham

That doesn't change the fact some of us find the paint scheme to be an eyesore. I'd rather have the thing in Greyscale like the prototype to Red and Yellow regardless of what that shopped pic looks like.

Ha, it IS a Macross Frontier design!

Discussion here: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=34229

Thanks for the link. Sounds interesting. I like those new designs too.

Ok, just about finished up, i went with the 4 color scheme, medium gray for the legs, blue main body, deep sea blue for the leg accents, and superlight gray for the rest, and gunmetal for everything else. Still dialing in the weathering but here is where it stands now. I did not get any decals, i don't think it came with any, so i scanned some of the vintage decals, cleaned them up in paint and printed them out on waterslide decal paper. I want to add some more when i get around to it..

thanks

mike

My hero, the first to post! Looks great next to those 1/60 Valks too. There's no way in hell I'd have room for one of these things. How dynamic can you make the poses?

actually there's a lot of stuff that change:

I can't read Japanese. What's the story behind this thing? It looks pretty cool.

Larger scan of the 3D CAD art of the YF-29 DX from this month's Dengeki Hobby.

Graham

Comparing that CAD art to the VF-25 it looks like except for the wings swept forward and that it looks like the wings recess into the body in one of the modes (probably Battroid) it's pretty much a straight up 25 conversion with canards and the wings swept forward. I'd wager Gerwalk and Battroid look nearly identical to the 25. What this may do is give Bandai an excuse to fix their sub-par original 25 mold so newer iterations can use a better body while keeping the fundamentals the same. Either that or they'll reuse the old molds for this, which I skipped because you couldn't even get a decent A-stance in Gerwalk which is my personal favorite configuration.

I too live in Toronto and as I have mentioned before, in another thread our tax on imports is rather arbitrary. Now the toy is too rich for my blood and I can understand Americans having the cash but people in toronto??? Like I say a river of gold runs under this city. Ok back to topic.

Mr Graham... with your confirmation from Yamato on sales of this beast going well and me just checking internet retailers seeing short stock/Restock notifications will Yamato make the TV version and will it be the same price as the Movie version?

I would bet it would be more expensive if they made a TV version if for nothing else that the arm attachments are slightly more complex on the TV version. The DYRL has those spiked tendrils that attach to the ARMD's but they always stay in pretty much the same place. On the TV version the arms actually retract into the shoulders. They don't necessarily have to do that on the toy but it will hurt line-art accuracy in Cruiser mode as the Daedalus sits closer to the legs than the Prometheus and the collapsible arms make that happen. That's a lot more complicated a mechanism.

STILL HAVEN'T PUT ON THE SMALL PARTS...

That's a pretty inspiring pic actually.

It doesn't seem like the Quarter sold very well. It was heavily discounted so early on and nearly continuously in so many stores which seems to indicate that retailers were just trying to get rid of existing stock since it wasn't selling. I too am wishing for a Battle Frontier, but if Bandai uses the quarter's sales as an indicator, it doesn't seem very likely. It's a shame because I thought the Quarter was done fairly well with respect to the line art and design of the toy itself aside from suffering from loose joint syndrome that has been plaguing their frontier DX toys.

I understand how some people could like the Frontier but I honestly believe it didn't sell well because of the colors (very pastel/toy-like) and the fact it looks like a Robot laying down on it's face... something I feel the DYRL style SDF-1 comes dangerously close to resembling as well. I think if they made a TV style SDF-1 that would actually open them up to making an SDF-2 as well, since a lot of the bridge stylings are closer to the DYRL style PLUS they could slap the ARMD's on it as well, since it used them instead of the carriers and the molds already exist.

Btw, for those living in Hong Kong, the shop owner selling all the Yamato toys in In's Point told me that wholesaler are all out of stock on the SDF-1, so better get your hands on one before it is too late!

I'm hoping this news means Yamato will realize there's a huge market for the TV version as well and do a new mold from the ground up for us TV fans who have been waiting to sell a first born to get one.

Realistically? Probably not. Technically, though, that would explain why Graham didn't mention it.

Graham may have grown up somewhere Robotech didn't exist, however that doesn't change the fact there is another one with ratcheting knees out there and now we know.

If I may, that was PROBABLY a 'Robotech' toy, if it came from Matchbox.

Does it change the fact it's an SDF-1 toy?

One nit-picky thing I noticed about Grahams review, this is not the first SDF-1 toy with knee articulation. There was an old Matchbox die-cast toy, it doesn't transform to carrier mode, but it does have a single click articulated knee-joint. So the 1:3000 is not the only toy, however it might be the only worthwhile toy with one.

I'll be disappointed if it's anything but some variant of the VF-4, but the reality is I'm game for pretty much every VF design except the Macross II designs. I wouldn't begrudge the MII mecha fans their toys, but personally they're among my least favourite designs.

I really do want a VF-17 at some point, a VA-3, a VF-5000, a VF-11 "Jamming Birds" version, a VF-0D, a VF-14...just that the VF-4 has always topped my list. I will get 3 VF-4 toys so I can display them in every mode.

Give us one of everything and we can all be happy, right? ;0)

The TV and DYRL are completely different in terms of proportions in many parts and the surface details are completely different. I don't see any similarity for both versions.

You must have read my response wrong. I was only referring to the differences in that movie posted about the Pachinko Machine and nothing else.

Did you receive any info based on our collective responses from Yamato regarding the P and D add-ons? Still want a P and D....it would seem the original TV version SDF-1 has become a victim of Lucas-style revisionism and will probably never again be made into a high-end type collectible ...so like or not movie style SDF-1 is the only choice....with the remake of the original TV story on the pages of Macross the First....I can live with a movie style SDF-1 with TV P and D.....heck I think even the animated SDF-1 in the recent pachinko game is a movie style SDF-1 with P and D....and it looks great... : )

Except the Macross in that movie is different in a lot of ways. It's got the bigger at the end booms of the DYRL version, and it's got the arm attachments as well. However, the rest of it is pretty similar to SDF Macross. The biggest difference is that the bridge/head is in proportion to the rest of the body instead of that pea for a head on the DYRL version which I personally dislike.

Mostly, all that CG animation has told me is SDF Macross needs to be redone because it looked pretty cool just for an advertisement.

The more I look at those pictures the less accurate the Cruiser mode looks. The legs aren't splayed out quite as far as they are in the line-art, they're always mildly in an "A stance" even while in cruiser. That's one of the things I didn't care for in the DYRL version actually, it looked too much like a giant robot laying down. It's actually closer to the SDF Macross version in this regard.

Yeah... technically, but 1/60 is pretty a non-model scale and a very big portion of people who are concerned/ interested in it are pretty much owners of the 1/60 VF series which are toys, so it would fit into both sections....

And speaking of which, where are all of the photos of completed kits for those of us who couldn't afford one?

That's a great review and the pictures of the toy look awesome. Unfortunately I still can't buy it, too much money and I've always disliked the way the ARMD carries look on in in Cruiser mode.

Has the functions of the VF-25's Super Pack and Tornado Pack in it's base form.

I was going to say, the extra engines built into the wings that everybody around here hates so much almost looks like the engines from the Tornado Pack were built into the plane this time.

At certain angles I like the way this thing looks, at others I hate it. Would be nice to see the other two modes as well, maybe it really shines in Battroid and Gerwalk or something.

Interesting. I can't wait to see how this works, especially in some of the other modes.

Yeah, I've been wondering where all of the completed versions of this model and the accompanying pictures have gone off to as well? Was really looking forward to some pics and I couldn't buy one of these things myself.