David Hingtgen Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Disclaimer: I didn't paint them, Boeing did. PS---the Jolly Rogers are currently on deployment with their F-14's and aren't on-hand to "customize" the markings. But the squadron commander apparently isn't happy, and basically plans to repaint as soon as possible. PPS--apparently there is some admiral who doesn't like certain paint on Super Hornets, notably no tailcodes on the rudders, (many squadrons have had to have them moved) and worst of all--NO BLACK TAILS ON F-MODELS! So nobody knows what they're going to do. This is why the Black Knights don't have black tails anymore. PPPS--full credit goes to Brian Marbrey at ARC, aka "VF-103 guy". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted July 13, 2004 Author Share Posted July 13, 2004 (edited) Rear view: You'll notice it'd look a lot more "right" if the tailcodes were on the rudder, and there'd be room for a larger skull. Edited July 13, 2004 by David Hingtgen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel's Fury Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 That's all? It looks so plain and bland. I like the way the original jolly rogers were painted on, like in the -14's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 With the F-14 not only is it the death of a wel reknowned and awesome fleet interceptor/defener/air superiority/strike bomber/armeed recon, but it is also the death of AWESOME color schemes for the navy. With that admiral advocating no black paint and so forth on dual superbugs and such the US navy's fleet will NEVER match the glory in colors that was the late 70s and early 80s naval battle group. RIP tomcat and RIP the high viz color schemes that made it shine. superhornet pictured above aint low viz, just low QUALITY LOL. sorry boys I had to chime in!1 i just HAD to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 BTW no wonder the CO is mad! Being that Co planes are always with the 01 designation, Id be pissed too!! Co and CAG(01&00"double nuts") are almost ALWAYS in high viz!(unless you count the 1970s when cunningham and driscolls whole squadron was high viz...ahh those were the days) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 May as well not even paint the thing on...can't see the thing anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Duo~Trenten Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Looks like crap. Though they may have kept it that color to keep it harder to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhafabio Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 where was that pic taken, boeing st. louis. i wonder if my dad saw it. he works final assembly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted July 13, 2004 Author Share Posted July 13, 2004 I think they should go ultra-flourescent-high-vis to counter the admiral's rules. All yellow-tail, black skull, white accents. Most likely thing they'll do IMHO: Late 80's grey-tail variation. Also gets around the tailcode rule by having them on the inside. Of course, maybe just maybe there'll be enough of an uproar that the rule will change, and the Black Knights, Black Aces, and Jolly Rogers can have black tails again. Blah, the friggin Tophatters get to have black tails because they've got E-models.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 I think it's just a place-holder. I mean, chances were that they would have changed the paintscheme no matter what - might as well make it cheep to redo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 what admiral made this rule? The hec is he thinking? no black on tail goes against YEARS UPON YEARS of naval history with black fins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-52 GUNNER Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 (edited) Tell me, Does this look better? Edited July 13, 2004 by B-52 GUNNER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-52 GUNNER Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Or this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRAND CANNON Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 E-mail those to "The Admiral"!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 kind of but the navy really needs them skulls bigger....those are A-4 sized skulls!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coota0 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Second one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stamen0083 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Or this?http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1089686943.jpg It looks ridiculous with just the tail in hi-vis and lo-vis everywhere else. Shift some more colors around ;-) David, so former F-14 squads are getting twin seater Hornets now? Might we start seeing twin seater Hornets belonging purely to the Navy too, or are they just going with Super Hornets now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted July 13, 2004 Author Share Posted July 13, 2004 Navy does have B and D models, but you can't use them operationally on carriers, the Hornet is SO pressed for weight, the 2nd guy is enough to preclude their use. They are only with the training squadrons. So there's like, 5. Blue Angels have probably the only operational B model in the fleet. In addition to range, the main goal of a Super Hornet was to increase the allowable bring-back weight of a Hornet. So that you can actually USE 2-seaters. Almost all F-14 squadrons (that survive) are getting Hornet-F's. A few are getting E's, but most E's are going to former C-model users and just a few re-established VA squadrons, ex-A-7 users and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted July 13, 2004 Author Share Posted July 13, 2004 Ok, more info coming out: 1. VF-103 requested a high-vis plane for #101, Boeing said no, that wouldnt be to mil specs. The real answer is that it would have cost another 2 bucks of paint to add some black and yellow stripes... Repaints come out of the squadron's own money, not Boeing's contracted money, so we'll have to wait until the squadron gets ahold of them. 2. They'll probably have dark grey (36081) tails for most of the squadron. 3. The showbird (likely #103) will have *black* tails, regardless of what some higher-ups want. 4. To quote the CO of the Jolly Rogers regarding the new Boeing-applied logos-- "That crap's coming off as soon as we get back! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Ok, more info coming out:1. VF-103 requested a high-vis plane for #101, Boeing said no, that wouldnt be to mil specs. The real answer is that it would have cost another 2 bucks of paint to add some black and yellow stripes... Repaints come out of the squadron's own money, not Boeing's contracted money, so we'll have to wait until the squadron gets ahold of them. 2. They'll probably have dark grey (36081) tails for most of the squadron. 3. The showbird (likely #103) will have *black* tails, regardless of what some higher-ups want. 4. To quote the CO of the Jolly Rogers regarding the new Boeing-applied logos-- "That crap's coming off as soon as we get back! " AWESOME! that CO is what the 80s navy was all about...high viz and ASS KICKING MISSION DEDICATED AIRCRAFT!! woo hoo!! Though I know the tailfins will look better, I still doubt we will see the lovely huge ass stripes on the side near the cockpit like on the VF-84 Tomcats. Decals looked awesome on tomcart but boring as hell on super hornet. crap even corsair, yes A-7s have better looking decals!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 How much leeway does the CO have when it comes to paint schemes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-52 GUNNER Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Updated picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montarvillois Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Could this be Focker's old plane ?, does the AA tailcodes stand for Alcoholics Anonymous ? guess we'll never know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 None of the Hornets, IMO, are beautiful. That all gray Jolly Rogers' Super Hornet looks atrocious. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Could this be Focker's old plane ?, does the AA tailcodes stand for Alcoholics Anonymous ? guess we'll never know... HAIL NO!! Focker wouldn't be as bad ass for flying dosmething like that! I tend to think hsi old plane is a VF-84 F-14...yea that sounds JUST right. Hgh viz, and enough firepower to kill the enemy 10x over ffrom long range or short range. Yeap. thats the focker I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stamen0083 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Updated picturehttp://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1089736551.jpg Getting there :-D Make "VFA-103" on the spine black, and the air intake warning stripes (?) red and you're golden ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-52 GUNNER Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Here you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightbat Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 (edited) hmmm if I were to be assigned flying this instead of my Bad-ass, High-vis, B*stards of naval legacy F-14 I would make myself entirely low-vis and keep my head aimed at the ground in shame, till the end of my career "See that? That poor soul once flew the best we had to offer" -"Who is he" "He's the CO of the once legendary Jolly Rogers Squadron" -"what Happened" "he got a Hornet,... in Low vis colors" Edit: B-52 GUNNER Larger Skull on the Tailfin! Move Those A's Edited July 13, 2004 by Nightbat® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-52 GUNNER Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Edit:B-52 GUNNER Larger Skull on the Tailfin! Move Those A's I am sorry to say that I have reached the end of my Photoshop experience. If someone else would like to make any other changes, feel free. Scot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted July 13, 2004 Author Share Posted July 13, 2004 (edited) Yellow wingtips? That hasn't been seen since they had F-8's. Coincidentally, both VF-84 and VF-103 had yellow wingtip markings at the time. FYI: AA is the tailcode for the 17th wing. http://www.jolly-rogers.com/cvw-103.htm The stripe on the nose is known as the vagabond stripe. PS--I wonder if even VF-84's 1959 flaming intake scheme would be enough to make a Super Bug look cool... Note, the h.stabs should have stripes too, they forgot. Edited July 13, 2004 by David Hingtgen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightbat Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Edit:B-52 GUNNER Larger Skull on the Tailfin! Move Those A's I am sorry to say that I have reached the end of my Photoshop experience. If someone else would like to make any other changes, feel free. Scot no biggie, you can't polish a turd right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingPika Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 i think the f-18 is nice ^^ why would u want high visibility? that grey paint sceme looks practical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 i think the f-18 is nice ^^why would u want high visibility? that grey paint sceme looks practical dude we all know that but the CO(modex 101) and CAG(00 "double nuts" haev ALWAYS had high viz colors to show off in. The others have low viz/. Its tradition man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stamen0083 Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 I am absolutely horrid at Photoshop >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 make skull WAY bigger! disregard the small skull thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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