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I've been a registered member there since early 2004. Even apparently started the linked thread on DYRL? So I've been on a lot longer than you have (assuming you use the same name there). Though you know it way better than I do, as I don't post there much. I've been trying to cut back on forums for some time, and ASuki never really meshed well with me. After the debates on Interlude, I'd sort of had my fill. The intelligent posters are a bit too hardcore, and the one's that aren't don't offer much. Heck, their Macross forum has more detailed discussions on this show than we do. A bit too structured for my tastes with polls and thread rules and all that jazz. I'm not sure I can really have the time for a place that has mods start topics for discussion. The only forums I know that's crazier is AOD (new post every 0.3 seconds !!!!), and maybe ANN (though they're most just uptight). It's good for some things, I suppose (the toy threads can be useful). That, and I only post when I have something to say, so it's rare that I get a really high post count anywhere except some forums. hell, I barely average over 120 posts a year here! I was just too spread out, so I've cut down the number I post on. That, and I'm tired of arguing on the damn net. great, now I'll probably be checking it a bit. Thanks... (first log-in in three months.) The 4chan comment wasn't precisely aimed at you, but rather the odd bickering over "bitch this" and "childish that". It struck me as more of something I'd read on 4chan rather than the more intelligent banter I expect from here. Though it is better, if not as outright hilarious as 4chans (which you're quoted on, by the way [not by me] ). Your "wrongdoings" bit merely catalyzed it. Um, thanks. I think most people know the definition of that term. Still, its often used to describe things far more extreme then anything Ranka's done. The guy with a Moe haircut maybe, but heck, I wouldn't even use it for Sheryl. True, but she's also a two-dimensional character with not even half a series worth of development. She's kind of exempt from the whole "original sin" thing. ;; So since you're pissed at people interpreting Sheryl differently than you, you make a claim that her shyness forgives her of having the usual brother/sister spat and describe it as wrongdoings? Um.. okay.As a big brother myself, I know that that's nothing. Sure fandom can be blind. So how is this any better? "They crap on my character and claim that theirs' is perfect, and that's bad, so I'll do the same but in my case, since Sheryl's been so persecuted, it's good." It doesn't work like that (despite what forums like Asuki and 4chan think). It's nothing personal, and I've already stated that I haven't taken either side, but that's kind of messed up thinking. Maybe it seems as you've described, but fans seem to like to break things down into confident=bitchy, shy=cute. It's sort of a strawman arguement. Not quite, but close enough. Let me return the favor. Wikipedia defines Strawman as: "straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw man argument" is to describe a position that superficially resembles an opponent's actual view but is easier to refute, then attribute that position to the opponent (for example, deliberately overstating the opponent's position).[1] A straw man argument can be a successful rhetorical technique (that is, it may succeed in persuading people) but it carries little or no real evidential weight, because the opponent's actual argument has not been refuted.[2]" This I've seen on just about every forum I've ever known. It's a horrendous way of tearing about weaker opponents by twisting their words or pinning words on them. Saying all Ranka fans think Sheryl's a bitch or vice versa is sort of in it's camp. The thing is, it's all in opinion, and both sides do it, so boo-hoo. It's not that big a deal. Do note that I'm not necessarily applying it to your post. ^_- It's sort of ridiculous too given Sheryl and Rankas' current relationship (though Ranka does have a clue, so it might be her turn to start pouting soon). That's ignoring of course that both girls appear to have troubled pasts, and have their own approaches. Sheryl's forward and blunt. Of course she's going to appear "bitchy' to some, but why do you care? She's also quite eccentric and assertive and playful. Ranka is more reserved and withdrawn, though she's not without a temper, if only towards her overprotective adoptive brother, whom she's also rather concerned about. Frying pans are often for comedic effect in anime, by the way. If you're dwelling on that, you're really straining. Heck, it could be argued that both girls are something of a reflection of one another. Now you're just being silly. Sorry if I sound harsh. I can't tell at this hour and mindstate. Welcome to Macross World. It's much more laid back, if still a tad anal at times.

I invite you to AnimeSuki, which is the only anime forum I actively posting. Never been on 4chan so I have zero idea about what you mean. Let me have a look on dictionary, "wrongdoing" is 1. behavior or action that is wrong, evil, or blameworthy. 2. an act that is wrong, evil, or blameworthy; misdeed; sin. Ranka must be saint to not have done any. Kidding aside, I said this only because I have seen bitch this and bitch when Sheryl does something wrong or not wrong just some people are too lazy to think, but I am only taught by them about forgiving and tolerating when Ranka is in the question. Well, after all she is new, young, inexperienced and still growing so we are responsible to forgive her and say she is always a nice and cute girl, so we must not call her a bitch. Maybe I need wait a day there is the flying knife instead of a frying pan hitting up with Ozma's forehead to call it wrongdoing. Maybe not. Ranka-chan justifies anything by her existence.

"Wrongdoings"? What show are you watching? Ah fandom. I had no clear this sort of debate was raging. On 4chan maybe, but here?

Hmm, this news must be taken with a grain of salt since I took it from 4chan

Just checked gg's IRC channel and it was a troll apparently. Should have expected it with them being a 4chan group. But I just don't know. One of the shared bots has Episode 10 subs out anyway. I'm downloading it now to see if it's another troll or what. Still, subber drama and trolling What can you do?

I'm there tonight. But again i can't find the channel. Gah! According to 4channers....the channel isn't appearing....OH NOESS http://zip.4chan.org/m/res/1648914.html#q1648914

4CHAN of course...

Same thing. Many of the people who use Internet language are also anime fans. It's no coincidence that 4chan and Internet speak tend to go together.

GAR is a misspelling of the word gay. It started during the broadcast run of Fate Stay/Night when the character Archer sacrificed himself to buy his friends time. An Anonymous on 4chan posted that the act was so manly that he would go "GAR" for Archer. All this fandangled nonsense is what people who didn't know what the word meant decided GAR to be since that's what they could make out from the subsequent posts. When you say that something is GAR, you're saying you wouldn't mind if it had sex with your butt.

This coming from a Zeta fan.... [huge Z fan myself, especially of the drama] Well to each there own, but a mecha show about just action would be boring as F*ck in my opinion. Let the action serve the story, not vice versa. Not everything has to be about stuff blowing up to be good... Little action or no, episode five's finale still satisfies more than some entire shows on the battle scene level. ----------- Anyway, on the personal front, I've returned from a mostly gratifying Fanime. On the Gunbuster/Diebuster front, more happened than usually expected. I found Film Book 1 at the swap meet for five bucks. Love the group shot in it. Managed to catch the end of Gattai for Gunbuster and, the following day Diebuster. So I basically saw "At the End of Endless Stream". In Diebuster's case, it was actually the first time I'd seen any of that footage outside of pics on 4chan, or skimming the DVD. I enjoyed it for the most part, even if I didn't fully understand the earth or second cockpit things. Nono's sort of grown on me, though Lar'c (Lal'c?) is still somewhat eh. I think that may be why I've never really gotten back to the OAV, the characters don't really excite me much [making me something of an anomaly amongst like fans who are usually repulsed by the art/tone, which I had little problem with]. On Monday, picked up two Nono Gashapons [one maid, one BM] in the dealers hall to reflect my somewhat reconciliation with the character. I would've picked up the Bome if it weren't so damn overpriced ($20, and not a penny more, and yet everyone's selling her for $28-30, even Noriko was $30, and I got her for $18). They go rather nicely next to my Bome and Koto Norikos. Could not find any Wave Norikos or GX-34s. Big shock, but the Wave was sort of plausible, and would've been my only high priced figure purchase if found. Anyone actually got one of these? Speaking of GX-34s, not finding one turned out to be a non-issue. It turns out my friend ordered me one for my birthday. It's somehow unsurprising (in a "what took you so long" sort of way) but still amazing. It made me glad I grabbed him a super rare autograph to cover his and Christmas. What autograph, you ask? Well, Yamaga brought with him this time a slew of Gurren-Lagann artists and other Gainax big wigs, including Diebuster chara designer and Gunbuster chara adapter Yoshiyuki Sadamoto. Not knowing this, I left my Der Mond at home, but picked up a Groundwork of End of Eva 1 book at the swap meet for 30 bucks. Sad thing was that after two people, someone came by and said his manager had forbade him signing, or photos for that matter. Fortunately, later at the meet, someone got his manager away from him and I got the book signed (one of eight of the only people there actually involved with Eva or at least around long enough and willing to actually sign the book) and a photo. I picked up a signature for my friend when he was signing in the hallway afterwards. Some such people even did work on Gunbuster. One of them being Fumio Iida. I found out at the last second that sketches were being done following a Gainax panel I had to leave. I had a chance for one. I saw a guy with a Noriko sketch, asked who did it, and decided to gravitate towards him. Sure enough, I got one myself on request thanks to one guy following the staffer's advice to let some other people get some. So I got his last sketch that day on a piece of borrowed sketch paper. It was only later that I learned he had indeed worked on Gunbuster, and not just able to sketch it. He also signed the Eva book (though ANN says he didn't work on it), and I got a photo with him after telling him Gunbuster was my favorite (his too apparently). I didn't get everyone, and missed at least one major GL artist, but I got the most important ones. One guy was even wearing a BM 7 shirt (I think he signed the book, I'm not sure), and the producer like my Kare Kano shirt. So I may finally have something on the level of my other unappreciative friend's Mikimoto Noriko sketch. So yeah, great con in the end, even with a few early signature snafus bungling me up.

Sadly, the 4chan Klan fan art thread is gone... finito!!!

There is no way to search 4chan. Like its Japanese counterpart (the 2ch image boards), content on 4chan doesn't stay on their system for long. After reaching a certain bandwidth or time, the threads and contents are deleted. This is why lots of stuff gets re-posted on 4chan. The best thing to do with 4chan content is grab it ASAP because it could disappear at anytime.

Nice ones. By the way, is there a way to search for pics on 4chan? I usually get mine from Danbooru.

Thanks all, hehe. Hehe... just made it last night. I'll make some later. Just posted it in 4chan. Btw... there are lots of fan art pics there... some are really disturbing!!!

Sadly no... I can't remember exactly where I found it... Maybe it came from 4chan...

Its the channel 4chan recommended, below ABC Radio 1008. Enjoy guys.

Apparently its the one between TBS Radio and Swiss TV. But 4chan says its another one which i think they are just trying to be funny. Anyway 4chan forum...somewhat realtime discussion for ep 8. http://zip.4chan.org/m/res/1585399.html

Battroid mode is off in a lot of ways. *ehem...repost what I said from 4chan*... There should be no flaps on the legs. The 3d model clearly showed that those flaps are attached to the wing swivel area. Also, shield feels too thin...too short perhaps.. Crotch isn't set at an angle either.

Can somebody tell me where is this from? Found a link in 4Chan to a download site. The file is called animation_note_apr_2008 (is like 20 megs or so). It contains several designs from macross Frontier. This image seems to be about some Junya Ishikagi design notes... There are more from the VF-25, the large Vajra and some other mechanical stuff. Is this from some magazine or is this actually from the Macross Chronicle?

Found this in 4Chan... Junya Ishikagi VAJRA designs... Now... take a look at the designs that haven't appeared in the show yet... will give u a heart attack... (specially the one that looks like certain enemy mecha from the old Macross series... a Protoculture connection?).

In 4chan someone said he did (Aquarion wasn't even quoted, it was just said this was the most realistic portrayal of male orgasm) Something else interesting from 4chan: "The late medieval terms basara and kabukimono are originally based on the Sanskrit term vajra (kongo, kongoseki). Kongoseki, which means "diamond," signifies that which can pulverize anything, and has long been used to describe the destruction of preconceived ideas, a tendency also closely related to kabukimono. Kabukimono signifies an individual who takes pleasure in shocking other people with his unusual behavior and appearance, and is similar in meaning to basara." Vajra = All powerful/ destruction of preconceived ideas, Basara = one who takes pleasure in shocking people with his unusual behavior/ appearance, and BASARA is connected to VAJRA. Citation: http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~tenmyoya/text/text.html This brought to you by Gattai. Does it mean anything? Who knows~ FV

The term GAR originated as a mispelling of the word gay. After the episode of Fate Stay/Night where , a poster on 4chan exclaimed that he had turned "gar" for him, so technically GAR stands for "Gay for ARcher". The term then mutated into a general term of appreciation of an act so manly, that the poster would go homosexual, and then further mutated into just being a term for someone who is manly. So ironically, Bobby Margot is one of the few characters that actually can truly be considered "gar".

2ch complains just as much as 4chan.

I smell 4chan levels of trolling in here. LOL.

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