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Until it breaks. Can piggyback VCRs and DVD-recorders too, and use AV out to feed their NTSC tuner on channel 3 to a modern set. There's still an upper limit to how long NTSC equipment can be scrounged. 359398[/snapback] Even the modern sets have NTSC tuners still btw. You'll be safe for another decade or so. 359408[/snapback] I know. I'm thinking a bit more long-term. As long as we're expressing concerns about composite video falling by the wayside...

I'm betting a 50$ diffrence if the PS3 comes in close to the 360. A 150 price differential is rather ... excessive. Of course, the PS3 isn't looking like it'l come in diffrent classes of console. So if they undercut by 50 with the REAL 360, the gutted version DOES wind up with a 150 undercut.

Until it breaks. Can piggyback VCRs and DVD-recorders too, and use AV out to feed their NTSC tuner on channel 3 to a modern set. There's still an upper limit to how long NTSC equipment can be scrounged.

Mmmm... some goodies there. I need to get me a PCEngine/TurboGrafx some time. Both systems have native AV solutions, though the TG16/PCE depends on what model you own, and accessories if you have an RF-only model. I play a little of everything. Only hit anything very often when I get a new game for it usually.

Yeah. I'm a borderline collector. Odds are good I'll wind up with a 7800 and some of those other systems eventually. I've actually got a Studio 2 around here somewhere, though I've never used it. Not exactly missing anything great from what I know of the system, but I really SHOULD fire it up some day just to see how bad it is for myself.

I'm not worried about my NES and later. Composite's easy enough to support(what with it carrying the same signals as s-video and component, it's just a comb filter or 2 to split them back out and reconstitute the original component video signal), and I don't see it going anywhere for a while. I'm worried about my pre-NES stuff. My Ataris and INTV are RF-only. As soon as NTSC tuners disappear, they're dead. There's AV mod possibilities for the VCS and the 5200(though the fact that I have a 4-port makes that a pain in the rectum), but there's no good solution for the INTV. Thank god the Vectrex has an integrated display. ... Well, until something breaks in it.

The cue sheet on my reet warez copy of VFX2 has an audio track defined(actually one and a half. I have a broken cue sheet.). It has at least one redbook track. If I had to bet, I'd say the intro/end is redbook and the rest is something else, but that's just a guess. DYRL PS has no redbook that I see.

The thing with Macross isn't that it's not possible, but that it's not beneficial. The animation is so flat that Animeigo had to actively introduce noise after the restoration to bring it to a viewable level. It has clear gains from progressive scan and the resultant loss of "fringe" artifacts , but the benefits of a higher resolution capture are questionable. And the original film is still available(really amazing, given how many have been lost...), but it's in horrid shape. It's scratched, torn, faded, and so forth. Thats' why the japanese releases have been so lacking in quality. The laserdisk release of Macross actually included a note apologizing because everything looked like poo, and explained that it was because the masters were in atrocious shape.

That's exactly what was going on with Guld. US norm is for an echo on "thought buggles." The echo in SDF Macross was diffrent. It was meant to emphasize that they weren't REALLY speaking a terrestrial language. It was an alien language that was being presented as japanese for the original broadcast TV audience's convenience.

Use a PS2 compatible PS1 Gameshark (try saying that 10 times fast) or an Action Replay on your flip top. The only imports/backups that it won't work too good on are those with Redbook audio, fortunately very few games (first gen) use that format. 359206[/snapback] Actually, while not mainstream, it WAS a sustained practice through the entire system's life. Bust-A-Move 99, for example, has a redbook audio soundtrack. ... And in a shining example of why most people got over it fast, the music pauses for a second every time it loops, and the lead-in to the song has to be replayed because you can't easily cue to an arbitrary point inside the song. Even when you use streaming audio, there's better formats than redbook for video games. You can actually see the lesson learned multiple times on multiple systems. The PS was just the last system people learned it on.

You'd be surprised. A lot of people think UMDs are superior to DVD, despite the screen being lower resolution than their TV at home. Same goes for LCD TVs and monitors. The early ones looked like poo(a problem that's largely fixed now). But they were told that they were better than what they had, and they looked cool. Average Joe has actually screwed CDs up entirely. They equated loud with good, resulting in a pursuit of music that's been cranked up until it clipped in the mastering process, and then had the volume range reduced as far as possible without flattening the waveform completely to get the lows louder. Same for TVs. They're intentionally sold with the brightness and color saturation cranked way the hell up, and red overdriven massively because AJ walks into the store, looks at the wall of screens being fed a composite(ore even RF!) signal that's been split 70 diffrent ways, squints through the glare off the screen from the bad lighting, and goes "Whoa, look at how much more red is in that picture! And there's so much light! That one's the best!" Joe will imagine a diffrence on his standard-def TV because the ad guys told him it would kick ass. And won't understand he's not even getting high-definition. Actually, as I said before, a lot of AJs genuinely believe the UMD IS better. There's a signifigant portion of the PSP userbase clamoring for home UMD players precisely BECAUSE UMD is "better than DVD." That's so cute! Beta ring a bell? How about SuperVHS? LaserDisk? DVHS? What they all have in common is they were technically superior to VHS, and failed to beat it in the market place. Technical superiority doesn't win format wars. Whichever platform gets the ignorant masses backing it is the winner.

Byebye world. I thought it was sort of like a mind meld. Sara was in there, but her mind was mixed in with the guardian's. Hence, something that would've seemed abhorent and perhaps even evil to Sara(not necessarily evil, since they WERE violent muderous technophiles) was perfectly rational to GuardianSara, as the Guardian was strongly of the opinion that if we'd made it that far and were still shooting the crap out of each other then we needed to be blasted back to the stone age to try again. As I see it, the MacZero guardian was a lot like the tower in the NES game Crystalis(a game I strongly recommend playing). It was an artifact from a civilzation that was destroyed by warfare, and programmed by it's creators to make sure the new society doesn't go down teh same route by brute-forcing any screw-ups out of existence before they can kill everyone, and essentially rebooting the civilization for another chance. And like the tower, it had a safety mechanism built-in because a human involved in the decision could over-ride the initial activation and shut it down(the activator in MacZero, the artifact's creators in Crystalis).

Hey, keep it in your pants. I was serious about not wanting naked pics.

I know it's not directed at me, but.... Personally,I though the 360 at 400 was insane. But I'm not a consumer whore that buys into the hype about having the newest game machine increases your penis size, makes the ladies thrust themselves upon it, and siphons funds from around the world into your wallet while you sleep, or whatever absurd notions had people paying 2 grand on eBay for a system with under a dozen games(none of which were worth the price tag). I honestly believe Kutaragi would do it. Fortunately, Kutaragi seems quite well-insulated from the actual decision-making process.

Only if when overclocked, my Rev shot fireballs at my PS3.

I haven't read anything about the Cell in a while, but last I recall it was designed with 8 coprocessors, with the PS3 originally designed to use/require 7, as they knew they'd have a very low yield of chips with 8 working ones. Those chips with only 5 or 6 functioning ones would go into other products. (And I'm guessing the few 8's they got would go to PS3 development kits or something) So it's been downgraded from that? Recently? Still, only getting 5/8 when they were expecting 7/8 seems like a big drop. 359110[/snapback] As I uinderstand things, it was originally 7 VPUs plus the CPU core. The gaming media reported this as "8 processars zomg!111" Bah, I was wrong. It WAS 8 VPUs originally. Either way... they had to downgrade the design goal a little due to yield issues. The current PS3 specs allow for either 2 dead VPUs or 3. I'm really not sure anymore, and I can't find hte article where they announced the downgrade. Anyways, they can only get away with this because the architecture design is loose about the VPUs. It doesn't actually care WHICH VPUs are active, as long as there's enough of 'em available. A defect in the main core is still a dead chip, though. There's no redundancy there. Anyways... They took a gamble by making the Cell a rather large piece of silicon. They expected chip fabrication techniques to advance faster than they have, which would have reduced the errors and and kept the fully-functional yield up. But they haven't, and they can't get enough fully-functional Cells. ... Gods, I wish Nintendo had named their processor Goku.

That'd be awesome if someone sold HDMI plugs, and someone soldered the HDMI pins to a bank of RCA jacks and used a metric buttload of 20-year-old rusty RCA cables for their HDMI signals. And the stupid peole that cared would have a heart attack while the intelligent people that cared just laughed and the populace as a whole just scratched heir heads in confusion.

Ah, a little smartassness.. My Girlfriend is a smartass sometimes, she gets to see me naked. Is that what you are lookin for? (I actually posted naked pics of myself on Anime Punch, why I didn't get banned probably has to do with the fact that they have a female mod) 358400[/snapback] While I do admit that your awesomeness transcends gender, I am not in fact looking for naked pictures. I'm just a smartass in general.

Correct, though by that time, the "winner" will already be established. I'm guessing here-HDMI and DVI are identical, save for the fact that HDMI carries audio signals, where DVI only carries video. Video cards would only have a DVI port because they handle nothing but video signals. I assume that some televisions only have a DVI port because their audio signals are relegated to some other device... 359066[/snapback] Yup, though HDMI can carry up to 12 bit video signals and DVI is maxxed at 8bit. Not that most people know the difference anyways. It's very safe to say that if you buy a new HDTV, make sure it has HDMI instead of DVI...though some people say you can just get an adapter, check any of the AV forums...people everywhere are finding the HDCP handshake screwing them whether it be an upconverting player, or set top HD cable box. 359082[/snapback] So DVI -> HDMI = guaranteed, but HDMI -> DVI = not necessarily? I know copy-protection on DVI is a lot spottier than on HDMI. * Didn't know about the max bittage diffrence. *I still say get an HDCP-stripping box. We did it with Macrovision, we can do it now.

That was exactly my point. I understand that the Pioneer ones are high end, but the other players are still over the 1K mark. They're ALL marketed as high-end. The PS3 will be THE mass-market BluRay player if it comes in at a game system cost and can actually play BluRay movies. A fair bit of that's duplication of effort. The stand-alone players have to have a LOT of horsepower to do that. "Just a player" is a MASSIVE understatement for a device that has to decode 1080p H.264 content in real-time. How much? Apple says : For 1920x1080 (1080p) video at 24 frames per second: * 3.0 Ghz Intel Pentium D (dual-core) or faster processor * At least 1GB of RAM * 64MB or greater video card * Windows 2000 or XP While this is a multitasking PC situation and not directly comparable, it bears contemplation. Think about how much less it takes to watch a DVD on your PC(720*480 MPEG2@60FPS). A 600MHz P3 should do it nicely if I recall. The Cell(it was always 1*) and nVidia graphics chip(custom) presumably have enough power between them to decode an H.264 stream(nVidia's recently made driver changes that allow their GPUs to assist in the H.264 decoding process), though that's yet to be demonstrated. *There's some confusion about the Cell architecture. There's 1 processor. Only one. It has 7 math coprocessors("vector processing units") attached to it, but it's still just 1 processor. I think they downgraded the PS3 to 5 active coprocessors due to yield issues. They're still making the 7-coproc chips, but this way 2 of them can have defects without the chip failing. Was easier than redesigning the chip to actually remove 2 VPUs.

Keep in mind those are stand-alone players, not bare drives. Furthermore, they're players targeted at the AV-phile market. That's a market where a CD player can cost 600 and a DVD player can cost 3 grand. But if HD-DVD can make it to mass-market first, they stand a real chance of winning. They already have backwards-compatibility out of the box. No extra parts required(BluRay needs a IR laser diode). They can make hybrid disks with a HD layer AND a regular DVD layer. That gives them the ability to sell a single disk to both markets. If they can win the wallets of the public early too, they can win. This depends in part on the PS3's price, as well as it's ability to play BluRay movies. As of this moment it's yet to prove it has the horsepower to decode H.264, and the fact that Sony showed it running MPEG2 video off a BluRay disk is making me wonder if it can do it, which I had taken as a given until today. http://anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2666&p=2 I didn't know that, and that totally sucks. HDMI cables are expensive, plus I only have one HDMI input, and I'm using it for my PC! I wonder how this affects Microsoft's planned HD-DVD attachment for the 360, since the 360 doesn't have an HDMI output? 2 options. 1. A passthrough cable. Connect the 360 to the HD-DVD, and the HD-DVD to the TV. 2. A new video cable. The 360 may be able to pass digital video and they just haven't released a cable yet. Didn't you know? Both formats use an "undefeatable" copy-protection scheme. </sarcasm>I'd bet there'll be a slew of players that can do it if you enter the secret code on the remote, similar to modern-day Macrovision-dodging DVD players. Especially since there's not a lot of sets out that support the copy-protection protocol even when they DO have HDMI ports. Anyways, HDMI cables will come down in price. And once they do, you can feed them into your PC and use someone's homebrew software to make perfect 1:1 copies without the encoding and degradation of the analog component cables, as the HDCP copy-protect scheme used on HDMI is already full of known flaws and easily cracked. Hmm, where have we heard that before?. Or just drop an external decoder like this one in the line. The MPAA will LOVE that.

Ooh, sorry bro, but me and the 360 are kinda... exclusive. I'm thinking about popping the question. You know she's been cheating on oyu, right?

It's not just us. Everyone in the japanese audio track says Mack-ross too. Even the guy doing the title song. Yes. So repeat performances are inherently inferior? Several people had issues with the disks splitting from the hub. There's not really a known cause. I don't think there's been a consistent pattern that anyone's noticed regarding purchase date, viewing frequency, or anything else. My best guess would be some of the disks got damaged during production just enough to start a crack later. Of course, with Animeigo's license expired, I don't see good odds for an exchange program. Could try hitting HG up for an exchange if your's start splitting.

Although it's possible, I haven't seen dvd audio getting any real support, so I doubt it will happen anytime soon. 358826[/snapback] CD can't have anything other than stereo. Redbook standard specifies 2 PCM channels, each one being 16-bit 44.1 KHz. DVD Audio and SACD are new standards, with new specs. Both have several copy protection mechanisms, and SACD includs an explicit banning of digital out in the players. And DTSES doesn't mean 8 channels. You can have 8 channels of raw PCM. DTS ES specifies a whole suite of things, including compression scheme and quality requirements. Essentially, DTS is Dolby Digital Plus. And many DVDAudio disks are in stereo. Almost all include a stereo soundtrack, simply because so many audiophiles have stereo setups. Anyways, DVDA and SACD are audiophile-exclusive, and likely to remain so. The mass market A. doesn't really hear the benefit and B. is moving towards an iTunes-style distribution scheme anyways.

We lack a ROFL smiley. This is unacceptable.