Oihan

December 18th.

My copy of Gears of War arrived. My gamertag is Ashmedai if anyone wants to hit me up on some co-op.

If the graphics in Halo 3 are anything like those in that trailer...HOLY TOLEDO!!!

Just as some of you say Macross isn't Macross without Shoji Kawamori; Macross isn't Macross without the love triangles.

If you had gone through Dell you could have gotten a 360 and a game for about $15 cheaper than you would at a store advertising the system and a free game. Moreover, if you wanted the system alone you could have saved yourself about $60. I got a 360 Premium and Gears of War all for $418.82 (that all includes the system + game + taxes + shipping and handling)

How is Resistance compared to Gears of War?

So there's absolutely no difference in graphical appearance between the Wii version and the GC version?

My top ten favorite: Macross (TV, II, Plus, DYRL?, Zero) Ghost in the Shell (All) Cowboy Bebop (All) Spirited Away Cromartie High School IRIA - Zeiram the Animation Furi Kuri Eureka Seven Ninja Scroll Casshern: Robot Hunter Transformers: The Movie Edit: After looking at Totoro's list I couldn't believe I forgot about the Transformers movie! WTH? I'll just make this a top 11 instead....

I would love to see another Macross series come about...Kawamori or no Kawamori. Just as long as it has that Macross feel to it (mecha, story, characters, music, etc.). One can only hope!

I can't remember exactly which threads have been locked and such, but this is what I'd like to talk about: Science Anything and everything related to science...technology...break throughs...etc. The console threads are a good start, but I wouldn't mind talking more about new discoveries, technologies, theories and such. Anything someone feels is worth mentioning that is science. Other than Science, sports. I'll add more to the list as when I think of legit topics I'd like to discuss that I'm not allowed to.

There are other topics that aren't what you described. I don't to talk about how someone got a parking ticket. I don't want a topic about how someone's day went. I don't want anything of the sort. I just want to be able to talk about subjects that AREN'T"useless personal garbage ('how was your day'? threads, 'I got a parking ticket' threads, 'someone help me build a computer' threads or the dreaded 'what are you drinking/eating right now? threads), useless 'news event of the day' topics (people posting news stories, which quickly skew political a lot of times) or stuff thare are outright TOS violations (religion, politics, personal flames, etc)."

Well, I don't know about you, but I'd like to know your guys' opinions on the World Cup games, having an NFL thread so we can all discuss the NFL and such. I'm not asking or looking for threads or discussions on how one's day went, or anything like that. If I wanted to know how someone's day went, I'd take it PM. Edit: Sorry for the multiple replies...I was reading/replying as I saw them...only to hit the 'Back' button twice to continue on reading. I guess i could condense one or two of them onto one post.... It's not meant to be seen as spam or anything else...I'm not trying to ruin this thread, so please don't take it as such.

I should have said/typed EXACTLY everything you have said/typed in 'my.' I couldn't have said any of that better. I'm completely behind you on all of this. P.S.: That was me who mentioned they don't post on other forums...and for the exact same reasons you listed. Moreover, as Drew here has said, let the volunteers help moderator this new OT forum, if there will ever be one. I've already let one of you (I believe it's Roy) that I'm more than willing to help out here in this community. What better way is there to thank a community, that's given a lot to you, than to give back?

Same here.

Nah, can't let it die...not as long as there are people who keep coming to this MB.

It's generally understood that the anime and sci-fi forums are there for topics that have broad appeal among a large portion of MW members. This makes sense because Macross is both sci-fi and anime, so its fans can be safely anticipated to have interest in both. And, yes, exceptions are sometimes made for topics that are neither anime, nor sci-fi. But, the point is that they are the exception and not the rule. You are advocating a forum where the exceptions are the rules. . . and most feel that this is not a good idea for reason both above and below. . . I don't think you are understanding my point. My point is that the community that you like so much was formed under a "narrow basis for discussion." I'm asserting that had that basis been more broad in the past, MW and its community would not be what it is today. And, it therefore follows: Altering it now would fundamentally alter MW and its community. So, in effect, I'm arguing that you are (ironically) praising something while unwittingly arguing to undermine a pillar of its success. I'm not really sure I understand what you hope to gain by all of that. You already attempted to preemptively call someone else a hypocrite in this thread. Now you seem to think that pointing out that I have posted occasionally in the Other Anime forum makes me one? That's just plain odd. I'm not sure how portraying people as hypocrites for making a quick comment in a thread about James Doohan somehow makes an off-topic forum a good idea. But if you think it does, feel free. In fact, I don't even remember posting in many of those threads, so I assume my involvement was minimal. . . but nevertheless, the threads are there, in the Sci-fi and Anime forum, so they belong (for reasons described above). And, for the record, though I don't think I'm a hyporcite in this instance, being a hypocrite doesn't make a person wrong. As for needing things to discuss when Macross news is slow. . . those that are interested in them discuss anime and sci-fi (and a few other topics that are allowed at the whim of the moderators) in the "Other" forum when Macross topic are not easy to come by. And, again, those are there because they have broad appeal among a very large proportion of the community. The attitude of the "use the search function!" nazis is another topic altogether and not terribly relevant or compelling as a reason to have an off-topic forum. It's more appropriate for a discussion of a general board attitude towards noobies. H 415295[/snapback] I wasn't implying, in your case, that you're a hypocrite. You never said that you think there shouldn't be an "Anime and Science-Fiction" forum. I was just simply stating that you do post in OT threads that have OT topics, so why not an OT forum? That's the point I was trying to make. Wasn't a personal attack against you or anything. As for the whole "being a hypcrite doesn't make a person wrong" statement. If you're saying one thing and doing another, I'd think that'd make you wrong for you're not doing what you're saying. It'd be like me saying I'm playing soccer when I'm really playing American Football. That's just wrong. If there's one thing for sure, it's that the "Anime and Science-Fiction" forum is more popular than the Macross only forum. Take that away and I'm sure most of the people here who have nothing left to disscuss on Macross (unless something new comes about) will probably go elsewhere, decreasing the numbers of our members and the activity on this MB.

thats why i said, "i realize people can get burnt out talking about the same thing over and over but thats why there are other messageboards out there." i feel you on the rudeness factor of some members....but thats forum nazis for you. i think its whack that members post those kind of responses(lock please, sigh this again, blah, etc) as if someone was putting them out for asking a question or info. it takes just as much effort if not more, to post a smartass response as it would to just answer the question or point someone in the right direction. i mean, if you're gonna help someone, just help them, its really not that hard. anyway man, i hear what you're saying as far as running out of things macross related to talk about, i actually avoid discussing macross shows, instead talk about the toys or customizing since its a broader topic with less room for arguing. the world cup, NHL, NFL, NBA, PGL, none of it is really anime related. if they kept one thread open for the worldcup, i would imagine come superbowl time, the mods will keep at least one NFL thread open as well....but thats not my call. you're always welcome to PM a mod before starting a sports/off topic thread and get the go ahead. if you're polite about it, i can't see why they would deny it, especially if its the playoffs or something. 415284[/snapback] True, true.

Uh, you do realize that discussing M7 and MII constitutes discussing Macross, right? And, well. . . Law and Order isn't Macross. So. . . yeah, we have debates about Macross here. And we don't have debates about Law and Order. . . that's sorta the point. I'll just sum up again: Part of the reason MW has developed a community that you like and respect so much is because the basis for discussion has been so narrow. By wanting to broaden things out and loosen up the boards, you're essentially advocating the removal of one of the key ingredients responsible for creating what you hope to improve. Oddly, I have a passion for Roman history and Middle-earth. . . but I'm not desperate to discuss it with EXO or jsArclight. H 415274[/snapback] I never argued that discussing MII and M7 isn't a 'Macross discussion' or whatever it is your trying to point out. And you do realize there are other Anime/Sci-Fi threads that are being discussed on the "Anime or Science Fiction" forum, right? We do have debates about other such anime/sci-fi related things in the Anime or Science Fiction forum...that's the point of that forum. The point of that forum isn't to discuss things outside anime or Sci-Fi, hence the title of that forum. What I'm trying to get is another forum that allows us to discuss things other than anime and Sci-Fi. Who says I'm "desperate?" My reason for liking MW so much has nothing to do with the fact that "the basis for discussion has been so narrow." Don't place assumptions upon me, please. You may not be "desperate" to discuss Roman history and Middle-Earth with the rest of us, but you sure seem to want to discuss: Superman, Arnold Schwarzenegger, video games, worst actors of all time, game laws in California, James Doohan, relationships, military technology, calorie count in acoholic beverages, tax refunds, halloween, other anime...etc. What does any of that have to do with Macross? (Did a search in the OT forum with your name if that hasn't been made apparent.) All I'd like is a forum for those threads, that other fellow MWers are intersted in, that end up being locked, so we may discuss something other than Macross when there is nothing to discuss about Macross that hasn't already been said about Macross.

Using your logic we should then get rid of the "Anime or Science Fiction" forum (thE most popular forum in MW). I hope I never see you post anything in that forum either, since you believe this should be a 'Macross only' message board. Otherwise you'll be a hypocrite and all respect would be lost for you. BUT, if you insist upon posting in that forum, then don't complain about this topic and retract your 'now moot' argument. I've heard this argument countless times "go to another forum, blah blah blah." I have yet to come across a board that's anything close to being like this, I value the opinions of its members, hence why I'd rather discuss the World Cup on here than some place I rarely visit. I really only have one love/passion, and that's Macross, everything else comes second as far as materialistic things go. Despite that, I'd still wish to discuss such topics with the rest of the members here. 415245[/snapback] first and foremost, please don't take my post as an attack against you. unpopular opinion, yes i think the other anime and sci-fi section should get the boot. why? simply cause it will get rid of a lot of the folks who hang here all the time, yet never post anything pertaining to macross. don't get me wrong, its not like i hate anyone here in particular but i think its whack that people want to come here to discuss everything under the sun except macross. i realize people can get burnt out talking about the same thing over and over but thats why there are other messageboards out there. i.e. if i want to go somewhere a little more lax, the mods aren't as strict, where members can be more themselves, i go AP(animepunch). why? because for the most part, no one takes anything or anyone too seriously, therefore arguements rarely ensue and everyones cool, both the mods and members. i used to post in the off topic section back in the days but i stopped cause people get a little too riled up over there. usually its pointless arguements that have absoluting nothing to do with nothing other than someone having a superiority complex and an uncontrolable need to be heard. if you see me posting there it will mostly likely be to ask a question about a non-macross toy(probably about something southern cross or mospeada related since they aren't technically macross). its funny you keep bringing up the worldcup thread as i was following it myself. i didn't see anyone being an a-hole or arguing yet it got locked. it sucks when that happens but the worldcup is over and therefore a mod has no valid reason to keep it open. it was nice they let it go for the duration of the cup but you can't expect them to keep it open after its ended....even when theres still a bunch of fun to be had at zidane expense. the only way to keep sports threads from being locked is to have a mod who used to be a jock but seeing as macross is predominantly a geek hobby, i doubt we'll find anyone here who fits the bill. 415272[/snapback] There can only be so much said about Macross...what hasn't already been said? Everytime I see a Macross thread pop up in the Macross forum I see complaints saying "This has already been discussed, lock please" or "Sigh, not this again." So if nothing new is happening or being discussed...then what? More flames for discussing old things. Look at the amount of activity in "Anime or Science Fiction" and then compare it to the other forums. I keep mentioning the World Cup because I'm using it as an example. I've brought up the NFL as well and last years' season is over...but another one is starting shortly. How does me bringing up the World Cup any different?

Yes, "Anime or Science Fiction" is OT, but there isn't a place for those threads that do hold other's interests on this message board and that could be discussed maturely.

Using your logic we should then get rid of the "Anime or Science Fiction" forum (thE most popular forum in MW). I hope I never see you post anything in that forum either, since you believe this should be a 'Macross only' message board. Otherwise you'll be a hypocrite and all respect would be lost for you. BUT, if you insist upon posting in that forum, then don't complain about this topic and retract your 'now moot' argument. I've heard this argument countless times "go to another forum, blah blah blah." I have yet to come across a board that's anything close to being like this, I value the opinions of its members, hence why I'd rather discuss the World Cup on here than some place I rarely visit. I really only have one love/passion, and that's Macross, everything else comes second as far as materialistic things go. Despite that, I'd still wish to discuss such topics with the rest of the members here.

Aren't the majority of us in our 20s or older? I'd to think we're all mature enough to not get out of control with posting something lame and getting in each other's faces. As far as being "too strict" and all that...aren't the moderators already strict enough as it is? I've seen some threads get locked when I really don't think they should have been. If anything, I believe they're too strict at times. But I think giving us a place to post about the World Cup and other sports, a place to post other MATURE things, would be nice to have. None of this "does this make me look fat?" crap kind of threads like you're insisting everyone will post, Sumdumgai. Hence this is where the moderating comes in. Hurin, as far as all that political jazz goes, I think the Moderators do a fine enough job as it is to make sure that sh*t stays out of MW, why can't it be like that in the OT forum? As far as people getting all upset because "Law and Order has gotten too preachy"...don't we have something similar going on with Macross 7 and Macross II where people complain about "how much they both suck with this 'spiritua' crap and with MII being 'non-canon' and just a hash of DYRL??" Even then the Moderators interject to make sure things don't turn into a name calling fest. With the way the current Moderators moderate these forums now, I honestly don't see how the OT forum could get out of hand. The Mods do a damn fine job (as it is) of keeping this place great. I think it'd be nice to post about things everyone cares about on a mature level (World Cup, NFL, NHL, movies that aren't Sci-Fi, to name a few poor examples while there are many other better examples).

While we all come here to discuss Macross, other anime, and other science stuff...would it be too much to ask for a completely OT forum? I don't see how an Off Topic Forum would detract from Macross in the least. You guys can still moderate the hell out of it and delete all the spamming and trolling all you guys want...but it'd be nice for those who prefer to post on this message board (rather than others) to post some OT stuff that they think would interest the rest of MW. I don't know about the rest of you, but this is the ONLY message board I truly enjoy coming to. It sucks seeing some of these topics, that interest other fellow MWers, getting locked. I'd rather discuss the World Cup with people on here than I would on any other crappy message board. Thanks.

Yea, I like the show as well. I watch CN for that show, a few shows in Toonami, and then Adult Swim. I only ever seem to watch CN, G4TechTV, all the learning channels (TLC, Discovery, History, etc) and the channels that air all the games I want to see (NFL, FIFA, NHL). But yea, Fosters is teh $hit

Can't go wrong with Family Guy, Futurama, GitS, Evangelion, Eureka Seven, Inu Yasha, and Robotchicken...those shows are really the only reason why I watch Adult Swim.