CoryHolmes

Damn. That is some NICE work.

ReBoot was pretty damn good at the time, considering the quality of CGI avaliable for a TV-style timeframe and budget.

Beast Wars was pretty good, again, given their probable budget, time constraints, and target audience. It was certainly better that any other cartoon on TV at the time. And it was enjoyable.

I don´t know what the hell do you mean by

 

and this takes alot away from the dogfights

I don't know what Nightbat meant, but to me, the CGI is so glaring against the cell animation behind that instead of blending in, the differences become larger and more visible. So instead of being able to sit back and try to enjoy the show, all I see are the CGI against the cell background.

And on that thread of thought, I have issues with the way the action is filmed by the director. The camera used is shaking too badly to really have a clear picture of what's going on. It's like the director is trying to artificially increase the tension in an otherwise somewhat bland scene.

guess you´re satisfied with cell animation such as Anime Friends efforts where ¨anime-magic ¨rules over realism instead of Macross Zero´s high quality work.

Not quite. Those of us who prefer the cell animation are remembering Evangelion and Macross Plus as two stellar works that didn't need to cheat with CGI to get fantastic action scenes that held the viewers on the edges of their seats.

It only comes to show how little you understand the timeline and the plot when you say there´s a ¨Magic-Factor¨ in this anime.

If you knew that what the natives take as myth is nothing more than what the Protoculture REALLY did then you wouldn´t take it as ¨magic-factor¨ that´s just being interpreted that way in M0 cause the natives are a bunch of idiots that are amazed by flying objects.

First off, the tone of your post is a little condecending and insulting. Not exactly the best way to go about having a serious conversation and debate.

Secondly, the "magic factor" happens to be the levitating of stones and causing spontanious growth and blossoming of flowers just by singing a song. And there's the precognition Sara displayed in OVA 1, though that could be explained as the APHOS transmitting knowledge directly into her brain.

Firstly , the detail achieved with the CG is utterly beautiful to look at , not only that but the CG models show a lot of the mechanics involved on the functioning of a valkyrie.

Yes, that's something that CGI is good at, massive amounts of details on the models. But if those models don't move as believably as the cell animation, then it's worth very little to go that route. And the CG models don't show the mechanics of the mecha any better than cell animtion would. The only reason we see the things we now see are because the writers and directors decided to show it to us, regardless of the medium used.

If the opening fight sequence in OVA 1 were cell-animated instead of CGI, do you think they wouldn't have shown us the swing-bars for the legs, or the pilot's seat rotating and the extra screens sliding into place? I certainly don't think so.

Yes, the CGI is very pretty to look at, but it doesn't suspend my disbelief as easily as the cell animation in Eva and Mac+ did, which I find dissapointing considering the relative age of those titles compared to Macross Zero.

I kind of like the designs so far. It's what the evas are, they're not really mecha in the normal sense, but monsters/angel copies masquerading as mecha. They were not supposed to look friendly either.

I know that. I'm just saying that if they do that right from the beginning, it'll give away the secrets of the Evas too early in the movie.

That was one thing I liked about the show, the question about what they were using to save their lives. I hope that's one secret that is saved in the movie.

Now that I've had some time to think of the pics, a few things stand out:

First off, I don't like the tongue, human-style teeth, or the "face" visible around the edges of the armour. Great attention to detail regarding the source material... but not something I really want to see on my mecha

Secondly, I still don't like what they did the Unit 1, the changes they made. They took away it's chin and radically shortened it's horn. Next thing you know, Unit 1 will be wearing a pink tutu along with its pilot...

Lastly, about those plugsuit thongs... they were in the original anime like that. As near as I can see, those plugsuits are pretty accurate to the original show.

I still have high hopes for this movie. I think it's one that will turn out well.

Given some of the responses already listed in this thread... it's already one.

Stop being anime elitists for once.

Good luck at getting that.

Now why the hell would anyone in Japan want to watch Robocrap?

They have the real thing.

I second that. This has to be bogus.

Is it so difficult and repulsive to think that people actually like Robotech?

Damn it, there are so many eps of SG-1 I haven't seen!

Well, hurry up and get watching, then!

Why would an F/A22 need sweep-wings?

Window of Opportunity is the BEST episode of SG-1 that I've seen, and I've seen 'em all. It's enjoyable because the actors were having a blast and you could see it in the way they played their characters.

As for the movie, it's a rumour that's been circulating for some time now, about SG-1 making a feature film while working on the TV series, much as X-Files did.

So far, so good. There's some great amounts of thought going into this movie, if we can judge by this art.

The only thing I don't like is that they took away Unit 1's chin.

This game might convince me to guy a Gamecube.

In no particular order:

1) Robotech

2) Macross Plus

3) Detonator Orgun

4) Bio-Booster Armour Guyver

5) Patlabour, the first movie

6) Jin-Roh

7) Baoh

Evangelion

9) Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex

10) AD Police Files, the original 3-volume OVAs.

I started with Robotech, and I do prefer that story a little more than Macross.

Macross is heading too much into the magic and mysticsm for my taste. However, Mac+ kicks all sorts of ass

*Clutches head and screams*

Stop giving me ideas of what to draw next you two!

Cyc

Too late

Now, about those Cyclones...

The Scott-type Alpha is due out this month, I believe.

EDIT:

Do recall that the YF-1R was made in Battlecry, a video game. The producers had to do something to differentiate between the mecha, so as to convince players to try the new toys out instead of sticking with the plain cannon fodder type. And video games are not known for their adherance to "real life".

I still say the MPC has the best looking Guardian/Gerwalk mode of any VF-1 toy yet.

How do you figure? This isn't an attack I just don't see how it is.

I see it in the way the MPCs legs bend into the A stance and slant away from the vertical, as well as the way the body of the mecha looks against those legs.

I dunno why, but to me, it has a better looking A-stance than the other toys.

I still say the MPC has the best looking Guardian/Gerwalk mode of any VF-1 toy yet.

I wonder what would happen if I macronized my cat...

You'd get, "THEM!". Just a feline version, which would be horrible enough.

I don't see any VHTs. That means you need to post that pic, too

I hope they learned their lesson from MGS2. Less cinema, more gaming.

However, I am looking forward to the Twin Snakes on Gamecube. That looks promising, even if they re-dubbed the whole thing.

Great pic, Exo. Gotta have more SC mecha like that.

One small nit-pick, however, is that it seems to be too tall. The Ajax fighter, in battloid mode, is only 8.9m/26ft. That Ajax looks to be the height of a VF-1.

My only nit, though

The entire tail section on the 777 is fibreglass and carbon composits, along with major parts of its wings and elevator flaps, plus the nosecone and nose section, among others.

Add in all the polyester carpeting, vinyl seatcovers, foam in the seats, acrylic windows, and hard plastic. Fibreglass is easily made to be lighter and thinner than aluminium with as much, if not more, strength. CF is much easier to incorperate into newer designs than it is to retrofit into older ones. As the old models are retired from service, there will be less and less metal.

One of the more funny things is that there are new methods of epoxing the joints together to the point where the metal will tear before that joint will. It's a cheap, easy method that would result in massive weight saved from getting rid of all those rivets, which would mean better fuel economy The only problem is the inspectors can't get it through their heads that planes can be made without rivets, and expect to see them there.

Star Wars I: Ben and Qui Gon vs. Darth Maul. Coolness.

You can say that again.

And Waterworld was actually fairly well-received by the critics. And as I recall, it made a rather respecible about of money. Not enough to ever cover the costs of making it, mind you, but...

Kevlar and Nylon are actually very close, chemically speaking.

Kevlar's big propertiy is its ability to stretch and flex without breaking.  Basically, take Nylon's properties and scale them up a bit.

Little OT:

I once saw a test of one of those "Bullit resistant" vests

they shot a window dummy

First thing that came to mind was "without concrete, it's gonna dig that bullit AND vest 7 cm deep between your ribs"

it saves the trouble finding and taking the bullit out, but that's it

got to see some results on kevlar plates used on armored cars, they threw everything at it, including grenades and taping explosives to it

only a few layers were damaged,... nice stuff!

Even more off-topic, but something that may interest some people is that Kevlar and Nylon are actually plastics.

Yes, you read that correctly. Kevlar, Nylon, and even the stuff that makes bullet-proof glass are all plastics.

And if that's not enough to boggle your mind, pause for a moment and think about airplanes. All that fibreglass is held in place by a plastic matrix. All those nifty carbon composits that airline companies love to brag about? Guess what? They're held in place by... you guessed it: plastic.

So stop and think for a moment that the next you plane you ride in is almost 50% plastic, in terms of major structural components.