Knight26

Another shot.

Ok, the front end is pretty much completed with all the details and panel lines, I may still add a few more details but have to mull that over first. Next thing to do is add the cockpit then detail up the LRM mounts and start texturing. I'mn going to hold off on textureing though until I have the next model finished, there is a reason for this trust me. Mostly I need to start working out paint schemes and such. Anyway here she is.

puppet sex?

The currently applied texture is only temporary, once I have more time I will create a more suitable texture, but that will take a while, I want to finish the modelling first. I have not redone that aft portion yet, i think the angle and texture help to wash out that facets that I don't care for. I'll try to finish the forward fuselage this weekend if I can.

Last shot for tonight, I applied a basic texture, only about 70% blended, it washes out the brown a lot gives it more of a light brown/grey color. As always C&C are welcome.

The underside, I added two LRM mounts to the ventral side, one on either side of the torpedo pack. I will eventually detail those mounts but want to finish the rest of the craft first. I will work on the mid and forward fuselage next. I'm not sure how but somehow the forward landing gear and doors got messed up, the hole in the fuselage where the well is somehow got closed, will fix that right away.

Ok, sorry this is a little late and I did not make as much progress as I would have liked this week, will work on it more this weekend and next week since I will be on travel again. Mostly I worked on the after fuselage, reshaped the area around the central engine. I'm not happy with how that turned out, I may redo it again later. I also reshaped the intakes, they needed it.

Yes they do have an effect, they make it easier. One of the reasons why Saab has put so much emphasis on canards is because if properly designed they give planes great low speed handling qualities, which is essential for carrier landings. Saab doesn't make them for landing on carriers though, but instead to take off and land from short stretches of highway. This is especially visible on the viggen where the vortices produced by the canards actually help produce lift on the main wing giving it great STOL capablities.

Man I need to wade into this thread more often, love the discussions. I'm not surprised the navy has officially retired the phoenix. Don't get me wrong I love the Phoenix, it is a great weapon system, but has one inherent design flaw, only the tomcat can carry it. With the Tomcat being retired it was inevitable that the Phoenix would fade away as well, unfortunately. Also DH before you stated that US designers have an aversion to canards, that is not true, the aversion to canards comes from the military commanders and higher ups. True designers and aero-engineers, except for a few hardline old timers, all know the inherent greatness that is the canard and most would love to go to an all canard air force and navy. Unfortunately military commander favor the more traditional "standard" wing, tail configuration and tend to shy away from canards. I can't count the number of times I was speaking with a high ranking military type (O-5 or above) and they looked at a plane with a canard only to comment that it was built backwards. Putting a canard on a standard layout aircraft has been proven time again to make it more agile. Infact if you look back the original lockheed proposal for the JSF was a canard, basically it was nearly identical except for the wing/tail layout was in a canard configuration. THey did many tethered hover tests with a test bed back in the 90s and it performed well IIRC, but the navy did not like it because of the canard. Also canards do not have an adverse reaction to stealth and in some cases have helped it, scattering the radar waves before they hit the wing's leading edge. FSWs face a similar problem, engineers love FSWs except for the structural problems they challenge. However old line military higher ups do not like FSWs because of how they look. FSWs as an aside have actully proven to be more stealthy then their non-FSW counterparts, something to do with the wingtips scattering the radar waves, will have to check my books again.

Actually Prime was playing battlecry for the ego boost, after hanging around with well endowed 1:48s all day he decided to have a good laugh by looking at battlecry's neutered veritechs.

Oh doh, I knew there was something I was forgetting on these redesigns, shield projectors and countermeasure laucnhers. *smacks head against the wall.* As for the rear missiles or mine layers, well that was just an idea I was toying with, probably will not impliment, but I am looking into finding another spot on the fuselage to possibly attach another pair of LRMs. The wings should generate sufficient lift, I didn't really shape them too greatly but they should have enough wing area, plus it also has anti-grav tech. The engines do thrust vector 3-D, I worked on the nozzle design alot when I first made them and IIRC they have about 25-30 degrees deflection in all directions. Believe me in ACAD that was pain to figure out. Hope that clears things up, hopefully I will be able to finish modelling this week and apply a base texture like the 5000, then start on the "ugly sister" of the group.

ANother shot, this one shows the wings folded and the locking bolts that slide into place to keep the fins from moving in flight. Also there won't be many updates this week as I will be on travel, I will still work on it when I can but won't be able to post until thursday if all goes as planned. Anyway C&C are welcome, will start on the fuselage next. Also, I am debating putting in mine layers or possibly twon rear firing missiles in the aft fuselage, any thoughts?

More Power More Power More Power!! Engines are completed, panelled up completely, looks good to me so far.

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I like it, now you just need a ship to mount them to.

I wasn't commenting on the pair themselves but more the costumes, I hate to see people cosplaying in what is suppossed to be a military uniform and getting the materials wrong. Too many cosplayers really don't seem to put enough effort into it either using the wrong materials or just bad patterns.

Very interesting I hope you have two so that once you are done you can stand them side by side for comparison shots. Really the mods you are showing dont seem to affect the durability all that much and already the toy looks far better.

I don't know for a pure fighter I wouls still go for the 5000, the 2000 is really an interceptor, fast with good armor and shields but not the most manueverable.

the details include not just panel lines but control surfaces and some work on the weapons. Right now the only thing hanging off the wings taht still need details are the MDC and the long range missile launchers. Tommorrow I will start on the engine nacelles and hopefully finish them this weekend as next week I am on travel.

Ok, wing details are added and I beefed up the docking lock area as well as added hump over the landing gears with an access hatch.

That Macross 7 Cosplayer looks great, really looks alot like Basara. As for the Roy/Claudia, that is wrong on many many levels, and the costumes are pathetic, again wrong materials, improperly cut, very bad.

I just thought of something, waht do you have it hanging from, how is it suspended from that shelf?

Hey good idea, is that point strong enough to hold it for extended periods though?

I swear these guys are always complaining, first they want landing gear, then boarding ladder, what's next seats, ha ha guys, sorry those will have to wait until you have atm control surfaces. I would do more tonight but after work today I am mentally exhausted. If I have time tomorrow I will start in on the wings, kaing the control surfaces and starting to detail it up. Plus I spent a good part of the night playing with my new BBI 1:18 F/A-18C Hornet very cool.

I watched the webcast that aileron roll looked pretty viscous, they had something similar happen in the last flight too, I thought they had corrected that, guess not. DH you seriously expect the morons in the media, bunch of ratings grabbing carion eating scum for the most part, to have anything the realm of technical knowledge? COme on man. Anyway I wish I could have been there for this one, but work kept me from going and if they make their projected launch date of next monday I won't be able to go either, have to go to a fragging ship. If however they slip the schedule a week to the following monday, which I think may happen *Crosses fingers* then I will call in sick to work be there when they win the prize.