Kinzoku VF

He did not just picked it up. He played "Samba de Amigo" with it.

Will be getting mine, on the 24th...(according to EMS.). Finally.... Was getting tired of reading about it. Would like to know if I'm gonna hate it or love it.....or give it away to someone who might enjoy it more than me....( as if....lol..) But good ting is there are other stuff with it.....So if it's really that bad, I'll have some 'consolation' mechas and gokins to look 'play' with....

I'm one of those collectors that hardly ever transforms his VFs....so should be o.k... But, as it is, it's an 'o.k' looking Battroid, but the 2 other modes are 'meh' ( don't want to say 'crap' until I've had it in my hands....want to stay objective...) If only they had messed up Battroid mode rather than the fighter mode...(we would most likely still have been p'd off... but more forgiving). Like some people mentioned, a fair amount of Macross collectors prefer fighter mode...What were EToys thinking?....Doesn't seem they had any real ideas regarding the nature of the target market for this particular line! ( OR...on the contary! They knew we would get it no matter how it turned out!!! Bstrds!!!) I think they just ran out of time and could't afford to continue working and revising the piece longer than they already had. With all the releases they constantly keep putting out, they need their designers for other stuff. (They never took that long for any of their other stuff, even the transforming ones...) Still, it will be a custom/re modelling project, and hopefully with the help of all the talented 3d printing gurus out there, a better looking/holding fighter should be feasible

Main thing that shows this Evo Toy release is 'so-so' (or really bad depending on who you ask) , is that on some pics it looks great, while on others it look really crappy... No consistence in the piece whatsoever. Had it been good/average, most pics would've looked equally similar whatever the angle. Sadly not the case. Anyway still waiting for mine.... For a European country in Fr, service-wise it really feels like you're stuck in an 80's time warp. Yes it could be worse, but It's still a complete hole as far as I'm concerned. Venting some frustration, sorry m(_ _)m.

I still want it, even if it's not great, won't be returning it ( unless it completely falls apart whilst being taken out of the box.....) But not hidding that I'm getting more and more apprehensive as the days go by regarding this VF-2SS release. (So happy I have other stuff in that parcel too, it will help to alleviate the potential disappointment ...) Also trying hard to convince myself it will be a 'nice custom project' to work on....( just so that I can forget about the price....) Hopefully, it will get to me this week so that I can make up my own mind about it. You know what they say about tastes and colours...I might just love the thing!!! (Wishful thinking ).

They do stick out, but it's not the worse thing. You plan to do some kind of retractable tabs? Or just never display it in fighter mode?

Been rambling about ET crappy Qc and materials for the past few days. Seems people are still surprised? The bloke who broke his most definitely handled the thing like a Transformers. Sad, for the guy sure. But...anyone who has handled a Yamato 1/48 or even 1/60 should know the deal with 'those' hinges.. Do members on this thread exclusively collect Macross? Nothing else?....I know I saw a post from someone who had some Evo Toys....so it should not come as a surprise. "Their stuff are built kits with magnets". Don't let the looks fool you, you just need to lift the thing up to understand you're holding a kit. Some have nice red glossy paint ( Red Baron for example) yet, it's lighter than a Revoltech figure....I've got it right next to me as I'm typing ....he'll tell you himself if he could. Wait...I know!

Even my hand painted Yamato 1/60 kit ver pilots look "neater" at least most lines, along the trousers and sleeves are straight (old pic that was in my Ipad from when I was painting some 'Unpainted" ver...) Same thing goes for the details I painted in the cockpits....I did not try "ultra hard", but they still are twice as detailed.... Obviously you cannot compare "Mass produced" to Hand-painted. But again, feels like I'm going to be receiving a partially finished VF 😭....Don't mind the work,I love modelling, but they should've just marketed it as a kit from the get go an lower its price. People would've been more forgiving of its faults ( I say this, but we probably would've complained anyway....Macross peeps are a hard crowd to please! Lol ) Whatever, it is what it is. Will have to make the best of it. Grateful to finally have it in 1/60 as it might be a long wait until we get see another one.

Many thanks for taking the time with these enlightening insights Jvmacross. And for sharing your impressions and having answered most of the questions we all had. It's pretty much exactly what I expected from Evo Toys ( in terms of quality). I just hoped that being a different line as Dynamite Action, we would get lucky with the materials used, but it was not meant to be....If any of you own some of their other stuff will know how crappy the materials are... They are not 'action figures' they are more akin to built model kits. ( I know, I keep saying it, but all the Dynamite Action figures I own have issues...ALL of them! I have given up on the line completely. All are in their boxes in storage, aside from 1 that is on display. ( just because it's the only version of that particular robot I own...) Still, I am happy to finally get a 1/60 rendition of this bird though. Even if it's model kit quality... Now that I know more or less what to expect, I definitely won't be keeping this VF as it is out of the box. It will be customised and 'detailed up'. It's just a bit bland and 'meh' as it is. I'm sure with a bit of work that it can be turned into a nice piece! ✌️ Thanks again for all your pics Jvmacross, much appreciated m(_ _)m. Edit after seeing the Battroid and Gerwalk pics: I would've preferred a tight 'Swooshable' fighter mode over Battroid, but I guess 1 decent mode out of 3 is something. (Odd that as a robot collector, when it comes to Macross, I'm really into fighter modes more than anything 😭)

Stop teasing QE, open the thing,you know you're dying to...(if you haven't already done so, bet you have!) . If it's that bad, you'd be opening 2 crappy things in one go....(although, maybe it's best to be disappointed once rather than twice)....Whatever, don't wait for the other one, open it!!! We want more opinions. Especially regarding the material....is it the exact same plastic one used on the Evo Dynamic Action stuff? I really hope it's different, even if only slightly. It's got to be, with all the hinges etc in a VF, their usual plastic would not withstand more than a few transformations before getting cracks and stress marks all over. . Come on Ems, get me my parcel already! I want to know.

Bobby got the design pretty much spot on! A non- obtrusive 'bit' that just clips in. That's exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned a part that could slot into the already present 'tab-holes'. Makes a hell of a difference. At that stage, I'd rather have an 'add-on' part than a mess. As it is now, there's no way I'd ever display it in flight...I would just leave it resting on its *cough* amazingly detailed landing gears. ( not even little moulded shock absorbers...*sigh*.) Again, great job Bobby, at least now there is more of continuity between the front undercarriage part and the back, not such an eyesore 👍. I really wonder what people truly thought of the final Ver they saw at the various presentations/conventions? Issue here is probably the Japanese way of face to face criticising (lack of rather). Even if a majority thought it looked crap, they most probably were 'uber polite', saying it was the 'dog's bollocks'...🐩 Had it been presented at western toy/hobby fair, pretty sure the reception would've been somehow different. More along the lines of "not bad for a prototype "....."What? Really! That's the final version!? ", "My 1992 Bandai kit looks better than this" ( had to put it in there...kidding though...it looks more like a 1/60 V2 of the Bandai kit 😏). All this said, I'm still looking forward to receiving it ! :-p

Underside is messy....especially the front portion. But it shouldn't be too hard to find a solution to hide the bars. Even if only partially. A 3D printed 'cover' or even hand crafted part would do the trick, there's holes already there on each sides right above the bars that could be used for tabs to attach the "part" whilst in fighter mode. Have a rough idea for the shape of the part to so that it won't make it worse than it already is... Only thing, this would make it parts forming well sort of.... ( not that it matters too much as it's not exactly the most anime accurate VF to start with) Seeing all these issues, I can't wait to get it to start the 'beautifying job'

One of my favourite VF design, getting another one for sure...worth every penny!! And because....who knows in a year's time if it will rise in price ( o.k the Yamato was sort of an exclusive when it was released, but the price they reached at one point was just pure stupidity). You're bound to get hoarders that will buy 10 Arcadia Ver at a time, and in 6 months time market price will shoot up again. Like a lot of people, I did think of selling my Yamato ver as soon as Arcadia announced it was going to re-release it, but couldn't get myself to do so. Most sexy bird ever!!!! Want another! ( and with a bit of luck we'll get a Roy Ver....if not, I'll be able to do a custom...).

Great superposition Bobby! Notice how the legs of the VF-2SS in fighter mode should be more parallel, not at a "V" angle...Every pics show the legs spread apart ( that sounds so wrong....). The top view one of the VF-2SS in Its box is a good one. Don't think V1 of the VF-25 and VF-1 had issues in terms of material used. Transformation, anime accuracy etc yes, not great. Although, the vintage toy collector in me still really like the looks and feel of the Yamato chunky and heavy V1. But hey, that's just the toy lover in me, not the Macross fan looking for the ultimate VF ( Maybe Bandai will get close to it with their DX Chogokin VF-1 who knows...) I think it's between Toynami, and the little transformable Banpresto Vf's, (the Revoltechs are works of arts compared to the Banprestos!!) Hopefully some modelling skills will be able to make it better, at least that's something to look forward to! Anyway, just a matter of waiting for those of us who took the plunge. At least I'm happy to know what not to expect! ( is that even a sentence? )

Ok, so, direct feedback from a Japanese collector that I know..... It's bad! Fragile, and poorly built. Known him for a while now, he is a Macross nut ( completely...), most importantly always very objective. He has posts on Tweeter. Gutted!!! I expected "not great" that's a given from Evo Toys, (yes, I know, I keep on about it, but everything I own from them is below-par), did not expect "bad" though, (;_. There you have it.

Don't you just love these Google Translate sentences ! "Deformation and moving is Damedame" Thanks for sharing, that one made my day. Lol. Again, out of curiosity do any of you own some Evo Toys Dynamite Action Mechas? ( not the Mazinger/Grendizer heads, I'm talking about the magnets held figures) If you do, you should know exactly what kind of plastic/material and finish to expect. Their most simple figures are fragile and fiddly. Add some complex transformation into the mix, it's bound to be messy. Gonna to be a display piece rather than a *Whoosh-Whoosh* and *transforming 10 times a day* piece, no surprise on that front. Plastic quality aside, detailing is at the top of my 'to improve' list. ( sad, don't even have it yet, and already want to change it). It just looks too bare. All my spare Yamato unpainted 1/60 decal sheets should do the trick. That and some light grey panel lining. You know, the good old ' Detail Up'.... Anyone knows if it comes with decals? ( a basic stand would've been welcomed too...) Some of the pics that are starting to surface don't look too horrid at least in fighter mode and from the top. ( undercarriage is scary...). Anyway, no turning back now as it's already bought and shipped....

Well...as to be expected, I did get it too.... On the other hand I might give the 4-G a miss now....( I already own the Yamato Ver, and doubt that Arcadia's will be much different.... I just want another 4-G as * cough* 'investment purposes' , you know to put on Evil Bay for $900 in a little while.....) Anyway, now, let the 'waiting game' begin....praying that the EMS package won't get stuck in customs for a month (-__-). Thanks for posting the packaging pic too, had not seen it until today...it's not that bad, "functional". Not much different from their other stuff to be fair. A nice painting would've been 10x nicer fer sure...but hey...this is Evo Toys, not Mr B... Gotta say the main reason that made me get it is the aftermarket price. I can sort of justify myself the current asking price. But if it's a "so-so" release (like most of us are expecting), shelling out $700 in 12 months time to get it would be a killer. Might not happen, but most Evo Toys rise in value relatively quickly. Better safe than sorry.... :-P

For whatever reason I thought the 18th was today. () Anyway, just got a reply from NY regarding the release date: - "Date: 2016-02-17 00:32:21 Hello Thank you for your message We will check with our supplier and come back to you soon we got the information Please don't hesitate to send another message if you need anything else. " There.... Lol , could mean anything...but most likely pushed back again....

I preordered it in August 2015. But every time it was getting close to get released they changed the date. I did get a payment request just a bit before the 1st planned release date, and the same day, the date got pushed further...(so did the payment request.) Eventually after 3 different delays, I got a mail to say they would send me a 'payment request' when they would have the 'proper' release date. As I still haven't received it, I assume it won't be out today. :-/ I did want to get it, I still do, like most of you, I want this to be good. But the pics we've seen so far are really not inspiring. It just does not look like a 2016 'High end' VF.... Pics aside I own other Evolution Toys robots, to be honest, all feel like built model kits with magnets for joints. Poor paint jobs on most of the ones I own. The finish is really disappointing. Forget that it's not die cast, I don't care, but the least they can do is improve their overall build and quality ( I'm not asking for the moon, but different tones of the same colour on some of them is not acceptable imo). But well, they do have some interesting Giant Robots that no other company has released so... Beggars can't be choosers I guess. Anotner thing, have you seen the amount of releases that they have lately?? It's non-stop. Several at a time, as soon as they are out 3 more are announced.... Unless you're loaded it's impossible to follow. Ok..you could if you only collected their line! They would have to up their game considerably to get more of my $$$ or lower their prices. If they continue playing the Yamato "let's give the collectors tons of average, poor QC , highly priced stuff" , they will eventually burn out.... Anyway, getting carried away..Macross is a different line, so maybe the plastic and finish will be different....one can only hope. But from what I've seen it doesn't look that way (;_. Keeping everything crossed though!!! Also...maybe they don't want to 'intrude' on the 4G re-release date either.... If you could only get one ( and did not already own the Yamato 4-G) who would you give your hard earned cash to? Rambling ...again...no wonder I'm a lurker, I ramble too much ();

I don't get it it, NY still has the 18th Feb as a release date...I've had it on preorder for ages and it gets pushed back every month. If HLJ pushed it back it's not because they want to see how the Japanese public is going to approve or not. Either they cannot fulfil the preorders they had, and want everyone to get it at the same time ( doubtful but who knows...) Last week I did get a reminder from NY to say that it would be the 18th requesting payment. (2 weeks before, that the date was 29th Feb, then, they brought it back to the 18th) Like many of you out there, I'm really not too sure about it....I was so looking forward to finally get a "proper" VF-2....But it looks so much like the old Bandai kit,( albeit in a slightly improved 1/60 scale kinda way.... ). The finish (if that's s how it's going to be) is bare. Panel lines and details poor, articulations look primitive. The pose-ability supa' rigid ( or else they would've have shown pics of it in battle action poses, kneeling etc etc....not the case.....) And I can already spot a few fragile looking joints, like part of the elbow swivel one....cracks and stress marks coming right up. I mainly display my VFs in Fighter mode, but even in fighter mode it looks 'messy' , especially under the fuselage. The metal bars showing up, parts don't look like they can stay aligned....And those landing gears (O_0); .... Again model kit springs to mind.... Maybe, just maybe, the delay is being used to rectify all these aspects. ( but somehow I don't think that's the case, pretty sure by now they would've already been manufactured,probably just late meeting up the initial demand or whatever) I want to support Evolution Toys etc etc, but feeling disappointed before having it in my hands.... not a good omen... I think by tomorrow (18th) if NY sends another 'it's been pushed back' reminder, I'll just pass on this one. (And then a year later it will cost 5 times more to get one).....ARGHH....what to do? Never hesitated so much to get a VF! (>_<);. Sorry, rambling too much...thinking out loud....

http://www.ebay.com/sch/gancougar/m.html?item=271688892907&hash=item3f41eb81eb&pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562 Japanese retro games stuff Ok...so I know its not directly relevant to Macross...BUT!!! WAIT! ...IT IS! It's to fund my Macross obsession. So I guess it sort of counts?? :-p Anyway, if anyone is interested in retro Jap stuff. ( everything is listed at the price I paid for them, just looking to get my money back to invest on a certain Yamato VF.....) Don't mean to infringe on the rules of the forum either, If its the case....please don't ban me, I have some Macross video-games too...(>_

Ok....forget the Kit then , looking for a Yamato 1/60 VF-4G, boxed and in good condition, not cracks, stress marks or any damages. Anyone have 1 for sale? Cheers for letting me know,

Added another PM about the Dx macross Quarter too (_ _);.

Ok, thanks, let me know tomorrow then if its available. Ps; i only wrote the sentence once, but I refreshed or something and it wrote it twice...(At least it did not got posted it twice!) Anyway you can PM me or whatever. Cheeers (**).

Bump again.....Must be loads out there...a lot of people bought them but never built these recasts...anyone have a spare? m(_ _)m.