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Originally, the term "Advanced Variable Fighter" referred to the 4th Generation craft which incorporated a number of technological advances including (but not necessarily limited to): The ARIEL airframe control AI Thermonuclear reaction burst turbine engines 3rd Generation active stealth systems Pin-point barrier defense systems Native support for fold boosters Now, with 5th Generation designs on the table, the term should probably refer to any fighter which meets or exceeds those specs... as the new designs based on the YF-24 Evolution have generally surpassed the 4th Generation designs technologically and in raw performance. Yes, the 5th Generation VFs developed from the YF-24 Evolution specs (e.g. VF-25, VF-27) have already exceeded the specs of the YF/VF-19 and YF-21/VF-22 by a fairly significant margin. Thrust-to-weight ratios and overall engine output more than doubled from the 4th to 5th Generation, the new inertia store converter protects the pilots from the excessive g-force loads that could cause them to lose control of the aircraft (or worse), generator output increased to the point where they can operate energy conversion armor in fighter mode in part or in full, some areas of the airframe adopted the new enhanced energy conversion armor, etc. Yes, but that excessive maneuverability and acceleration is also their achilles heel, because it exceeds the tolerances of all but the best pilots... which is why the VF-19 and VF-22 got scrubbed and the more versatile VF-171 got the Next Main Fighter job. All that performance is worthless if you can't control it, and most pilots couldn't. Massively so... the VF-19 or VF-22 would not be able to keep pace with a 5th Gen VF because their pilots aren't insulated against the extreme g-forces, so their maneuverability and acceleration is comparatively handicapped vs. a fighter that already outclasses them in pretty much every way. WRT the VF-19 boasting superior firepower... where's that comin' from? Depending on whether you trust Master File or not, the VF-25 either has the same number of pylons or two additional ones, its gunpod is substantially more powerful (so much so that VF-19s need their arms reinforced to use it), and it has the name number of fixed-forward guns. They're on roughly the same level there... though the VF-25 may have a slight advantage in that it can keep all of its hung weapons while transforming, and its gun pod is a good deal more potent. I'd expect even a CF VF-25A to take a VF-19 to the cleaners in a serious fight, considering the YF-24 the VF-25 was based on was noted for having won handily in a 12-on-1 simulated dogfight vs. a mixed group of VF-19's and 22's. In most respects, the VF-17 is already a partial AVF upgrade in its -D and -S variants. It didn't get the ARIEL system or a pinpoint barrier, but it did end up inheriting the thermonuclear reaction burst turbine engine technology and fold booster compatibility. The VF-171 derived from it took it the rest of the way.
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Seto Kaiba replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
That's ARMD-L, the "BASTER" L and R are the doodads on its back. -
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... I just had a thought. The Macross Elysion is the first Macross-type ship where we've seen the arms detach and operate independently of the main ship (even though it's alleged to be possible for the Macross Quarter-class). Is this the birth of the long-awaited Macross rocket punch? -
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I'm curious about one thing that might be a sign of aging... Master Hermann seems to be far and away the oldest member of the Aerial Knights, and he looks like he's slowly turning to stone or drying up like snakeskin. -
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Presumably for the same reason all of the fighter markings except the company logo are still written in English... for easy recognition (I'd assume the name is written somewhere on the outside of the ship as well). "Brainwashed" is used to describe it in Macross Chronicle... and on the Compendium's timeline. Mind you, the Protoculture are also said to have brainwashed the Zentradi to prevent them from creating things or engaging in other cultural behaviors on the very same sheet (Worldguide 10A). -
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Safe bet it's not named for a goth metal band... Chaos has a demonstrated tendency toward Greek terms, to such an extent that its name is printed in Greek on its buildings and fighters (χάος), its flight platoons are identified by letters of the Greek alphabet, and its two named ships thus far both have Greek mythological references for names. They're using the proper Greek pronunciation in the name of Macross Elysion rather than the Latin-ized "Elysium". Unlikely, IMO... the Supervision Army were spiritia-drained and then brainwashed, what the Windermerians are doing seems to be more like using anima spiritia abilities in an inimical fashion. The Supervision Army itself was supposedly made up of Protoculture and Zentradi that'd been brainwashed. That'd be rather surprising... supposedly the average emigrant planet in the 2030's had a planetary defense fleet of over 70 ships and around 700 variable fighters of different types. A 3rd Generation or later fleet should have around twice that many warships in orbit and three times as many fighters... and that's not counting anything they would've built in the years (or decades) since initially landing on the planet. Ragna's human settlement seems to be pretty well-established, so I'd expect them to have at least maintained that standard level of defense (if not improved on it). -
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Either that or Hayate or someone will convince him to pull the stick out of his arse. Messer: "Hey Mirage, do you have a knife I can borrow?" Probably just aesthetic... it's too far back for the pilot to actually see it, and it looks to be part of the wraparound monitor's display graphics.- 285 replies
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They might not mention it until it becomes relevant... they waited until episode 4 to mention the VF-31 has an inertia store converter. (Though, to Hayate, that was probably news. He wasn't a pilot beforehand, and neither of the Valkyries he flew prior to that point had one.) ... and so does the bottomless pit of speculation "what are they actually wearing?" open... -
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Another option for it to generate larger barriers might be if it has a fold dimension resonance system to boost the output of its engines and other fold-based systems. -
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Many VFs are actually quite light compared to modern aircraft, so they wouldn't need to be using as much thrust to stay aloft like that... but yeah, that raises the awkward question of just how high he is above the audience if his jet wash isn't knocking the crowd about. If he's at least a couple hundred yards away, then he ought to be fine and just generating a moderately heavy breeze. The thing I'd be more worried about is the heat. That exhaust is intake air heated by a fusion reaction and contains a fair bit of plasma from that heating and some bled off the reactor.- 285 replies
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They're surrounded by displays... maybe some kind of support AI? I've got a theory about that... Messer is easily the least sociable, most standoffish member of Delta Platoon and he seems to really resent Hayate. Maybe Var syndrome is more of a threat to people who are repressing a lot of anger? I wonder if that means the Sv-262 doesn't have an inertia store converter, and the Windermerians are tanking the g-forces on their own...- 285 replies
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I'd assume that Walkure is not the only Tactical Sound Unit that exists to fight Var syndrome... the military wouldn't let one unit be sufficient for a single fleet in the 2040's. Each Chaos branch office may maintain a Tactical Sound Unit, or it's possible the New UN Forces have their own, or other PMCs raised their own units. As Var syndrome is said to be a galaxy-wide problem in 2067, that'd imply that Heinz's range (with amplification) is effectively in the tens of thousands of light years. (Not without precedent, the Vajra were capable of intergalactic transmission.) Dunno... but their lifespans are so short we can at least be assured it wouldn't be a longwinded reign.- 285 replies
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Not just her music, IIRC... the Sharon Apple incident led to not just her music being temporarily legislated off the shelves, but the technology behind a fully responsive virtuoid being banned. IINM there was a virtuoid in Macross the Musiculture but it wasn't "alive". Not necessarily... that's the Old Norse for "Fire", and we seem to be doing a bit of a classical elements theme in Delta. We've already got the Humans (Earth?), Windermerians (Wind), Ragnans (Water), and now this other group who are presumably representing Fire.- 285 replies
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Ah, sitting down to watch this one right now...- 285 replies
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Yeah, that's the one I meant. Nope, I gave up on those ages ago... too many "blind idiot" translations. I just summarized for the sake of brevity. *nods* My view of that is more a note on the difference in pronunciation rules between Classical and Liturgical Latin, the latter being far more prevalent than the former in modern society because of its association with a modern religion (and media depictions thereof). Even though Christianity is a minority religion over in Japan, I'd expect Liturgical Latin to be the one they're more familiar with, thus necessitating the note. Literal, historical significance would've been my reason for picking "Gallia" over "Gaul" as a translation... but then, that's probably my bias speaking. A lot of the Roman settlements in Gallia/Gaul sprang up around the forts constructed to hold the territory, and that seems to be kind of the way Gallia/Gaul 4 was going before Grace blew it up, being that it was way out on the frontier.
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Er... not trying to be a smartarse, but isn't ゴール used in the very first paragraph of that Wikipedia article as an explanation of precisely the difference that we're talking about? They note that it's "Gallia" (ガッリア or ガリア) for the classical Latin name of the region and "Gaule" (ゴール) for the (Old) French equivalent. The disambiguation page for ゴール also links back to that article. On that basis, my gut instinct would be to go with the translation closest to the spoken/written pronunciation of the word... that being the Latin version (but I may be slightly biased toward the Latin as someone who wasted 3 years on classical Latin in school).
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The animated installments of Macross almost never delve into the backstories of the mecha themselves, though it would not surprise me if the almost-inevitable novelization of Macross Delta does mention Major Blanchett's role in the fighter's development. 's good writing practice to move on after a character's arc has exhausted itself... we've seen what happens when a Macross-derivative doesn't move on from the old characters in the strangled, increasingly fanfic-ish efforts of The Show That Must Not Be Named. A lot of the Macross Frontier fansubs went with "Gallia" or "Galia"... presumably because that's closest to the pronunciation of ガリア. If they'd wanted it to be read "Gaul" wouldn't they have spelled it ゴール? (My suspicion is that the use of "Gallia" instead of "Gaul" was a historical in-joke, referencing its status both as "the frontier" and garrisoned territory... which the conquered territory of Gallia was to the Roman empire.)
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... Ragu Nyan-Nyan is a Chinese restaurant, man. Cooking the cat is kind of the low-hanging fruit of humor, isn't it?
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Just puttin' this out there, but the VF-1 Valkyrie's transformation time was approximately 1 second even in the original series (per listed spec.)... and the actuators involved have probably been upgraded several times with modern technology over the fifty or so years the design's been kicking around. -
Isn't that just Big Bang Theory with musician jokes and Basara playing the role of Sheldon? Well, yes and no... we know that he continued to bum around the galaxy until at least 2060, when he recorded his tracks for Re:Fire! and sent them to the rest of the band via the Galaxy Network. So he didn't really disappear, he just chose to stay out of the spotlight. Very few of Macross's protagonists have out-and-out vanished... but there does seem to be a laudable tradition of having them get out of the way once their stories have reached a natural conclusion so they aren't bumming around the periphery distracting people from the main cast of the next series. If you don't push characters whose relevance expired with the previous series offstage when you're developing a new story, you end up with a shameful mess like the Star Wars expanded universe, revolving forever around the same handful of holdovers with progressively weaker excuses to make them the center of events.
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Let's just hope the dojinshi artists didn't see you write that... I'm trying to decide if this is a euphemism or not... But either way that got a chuckle out of me.- 238 replies
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True, though I guess that's all down to how "main" one considers it... Aye... Percival was not a sword himself, he was a knight. (Whether his mother was a hamster and his father smelt of elderberries is up for debate, though.) Kind of a "one of these things is not like the other" situation, considering the VF-9, VF-19, and YF-29 were Cutlass, Excalibur/Caliburn/Nothung, and Durandal respectively... those being a normal sword, variously the legendary magical swords of King Arthur (twice) and Sigurd (on whom King Arthur is based), and the holy/magical sword of Charlemagne's paladin Roland. (Serial escalation? What will the VF-39 be if we're already basically up to 11?) Possibly... it wouldn't be the first time. The main gun on the retrofit Macross-class in Macross II: Lovers Again was partially built into the ARMDs that formed its arms... though was apparently so powerful that it damaged the ships considerably just by firing.