Nied Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 (edited) Those look awesome! One of the things I forgott to mention is how much I love the Virtual Cockpit. You did an excelent job with the floor screens, it really feels open with them. I cna't wait till you get some gauges in there. Edited April 28, 2004 by Nied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighttiger Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 don't wanna be a pain in the butt. but make it for xplane you can include thursters for in space. you got wingsweep and flaps. you got afterbruners and a better flight model . their is a guy who made a perfect vf-1 for xplane that works like a dream......check it out and make it for x-plane the real flight simulator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted April 29, 2004 Author Share Posted April 29, 2004 (edited) I would make one for X-Plane but for one thing: I don't think there is any way to model anything this complex in X-Plane. It would come out pretty badly, and probably wouldn't look much like the actual plane. Yes, X-Plane has thrusters, etc, and is realistic in that it actually calculates the flight specs for the plane.. but that is also it's greatest limitation. Since the game has to constantly do all these calculations, you can only make the model in the X-Plane software, which, frankly, in my experience, is nothing short of craptacular. There is no real control over shapes (ALLL of the fuselage parts are simple cylinders and you have to work with the number of cross sections given you.. no control over polygons at all), and angled wings and tails like on the YF-19 are impossible, at least with the version I have. You can manage to do some nice aircraft, but in the case of something this complex, you run out of parts to use REALLY fast. Also, there is no way to alter the way the textures are mapped, so these textures would never work. There is actually a YF-19 for X-Plane believe it or not though.. it came with the game. It's called simply a "Japanese Anime" plane to avoid copyright infringement, but it's clearly a YF-19. I'll see if I can get a picture of it. Edit: Here it is... good grief that's hilarious...suffice to say you get nothing but big cylinders to work with, and only get about 8 cross sections per part. The YF-19's fuselage alone needs about 30 separate cross sections to get the shape right. I did make a pretty darn detailed VF-1 once for this program, but the people in charge of the next version compressed all the textures into one map, and killed any chance it had of nice detail.. the model was decent, but the VF-1 is VERY simple compared to the YF-19, and is much easier to make... course, I still had to use fuel tanks to make the fuselage. SEVERE lack of modeling options. They also changed the texture format for the new version, and it corrupted the way the textures were applied, so it looks like crap now. Edited April 29, 2004 by Chronocidal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmitty Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 (edited) That plane is just about vomit inducing... Yours otoh, looks absolutely gorgeous, especially in the Miria red. Edited April 29, 2004 by Shmitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted April 29, 2004 Author Share Posted April 29, 2004 Okay, I found out that someone did do a fairly decent YF-19.. but still, it's nowhere NEAR as detailed as FS2002/4 can handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesker99 Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 I'm so glad you chose Flight Simulator. I finally tried it, and the first time I took it for a spin, I got the thing into an upside-down barrel roll while falling slowly to the ground.. which I couldnt get out of for some reason.. It's most fun to fly though Great job! I cant wait for the textures and such! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientAngel Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 (edited) Simply awesome work guys! To bad there is not a flight sim game engine that can handle actual weapons, then we could have some real fun! Well I did a little bacck ground checking and I found..well re-found a combat flight sim that might do the trick. "Strike Fighters : Project 1" On of hte active forums for it can be found here:http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=55 Sounds like you can do your models in Max and then some how export them into the game. Although I have yet to find a tut on how to manage all of this. Not to mention the game is now out of print. Edited May 1, 2004 by AncientAngel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memphis Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 Awesome man ... it so cool...!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalist Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 WHat, no VF-22S? GAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Nut Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 Just tried the 19 out. Great job Chrono, it's just like I thought it would handle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted May 2, 2004 Author Share Posted May 2, 2004 Don't worry too much, the VF-22/YF21 will be the next plane I do.. when I have time. :S It might not be till summer. This one took me from Christmas until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Cool Flyable YF-19+Megascenery Southern California=very familiar image (just think how cool it'll look once it has textures): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMax1 Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 nice shot.... That scenery and the 19 look awesome together. Any word as to when we might see the textured versions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted May 5, 2004 Author Share Posted May 5, 2004 Soon, I hope.. I've got two weeks coming where I've got nothing to do, so I should be able to get some major work done soon. I might just release the mirrored version, then do a non-mirrored one later, since it will require a whole new set of maps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientAngel Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Well now I am bitten by the bug to get more Macross stuff into a flight sim. I do not know what I will start out with (shrug) since I will be learning Gmax and the proper scripting for MS Flight Sim04. A Fighter Pod would be intresting and yet different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientAngel Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Very nice ...excellent model .. Let me just say this, I spent the past 5 hours trying to get FS2004 to run on my system. In the ended it was just easier to Reinstall my whole OS and start over from scratch to get this bugger to run. Man this baby is fast, blew the doors off of a 747-400 on take off and this was giving it a 1 minute head start .. I can not wait to see more Macross ships flying around in this game. Maybe the CG guys would let us use a few of there VF's later on down the road for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marso Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 As cool as this mod is, it would be even cooler in a game like one of the Janes series or something where you could fly it in combat against other aircraft and build missions with the editors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 I thought you could build custom aircraft for Janes USAF? I know it's not supported like FS2002/4 ... but I believe the ability is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumzi Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Incredible work you've done there Chrono. This finally convinced me to reinstall FS 2004 so that I could try it out. It's absolutley insane trying to get this thing to fly straight though. Someone mentioned that they managed to get the valk in an inverted position and wasn't able to roll back to level flight. This happened to me too. Plus, while I was playing around, I figured it might be cool to try and get the 19's nose to point straight up, do continuous rolls and have it move sideways (Isamu did the same thing when he first got his hands on the 19). Surprisngly it worked!... Until I ended up in an inverted spin from using the rudders too much. I would have loved to take a picture of the contrail that was left in my wake... It looked like a huge helix going straight up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Nut Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Incredible work you've done there Chrono. This finally convinced me to reinstall FS 2004 so that I could try it out.It's absolutley insane trying to get this thing to fly straight though. Someone mentioned that they managed to get the valk in an inverted position and wasn't able to roll back to level flight. This happened to me too. Plus, while I was playing around, I figured it might be cool to try and get the 19's nose to point straight up, do continuous rolls and have it move sideways (Isamu did the same thing when he first got his hands on the 19). Surprisngly it worked!... Until I ended up in an inverted spin from using the rudders too much. I would have loved to take a picture of the contrail that was left in my wake... It looked like a huge helix going straight up. To have the 19 and not pull an Isamu is committing a sin against the aircraft I did the same when I first downloaded it. Managed to make a circus tent-like shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 Heheh.. With some of the stuff I've done, the contrails look more like heart-rate monitors. I have found some very weird things with maneuvering though.. If you roll for long enough, with the rudder, eventually it seems you get into a perpetual unrecoverable spin/roll, but you still generate lift...so you eventually hit the simulator max altitude, and just stay pinned there, rolling around and spinning, all while the indicated speed is zero... flying backwards sideways, upside down and forwards. I got into one of these things once, and spent half an hour trying to recover.. never regained control, but never crashed either. I just had to reset the sim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesker99 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Heheh.. With some of the stuff I've done, the contrails look more like heart-rate monitors. I have found some very weird things with maneuvering though.. If you roll for long enough, with the rudder, eventually it seems you get into a perpetual unrecoverable spin/roll, but you still generate lift...so you eventually hit the simulator max altitude, and just stay pinned there, rolling around and spinning, all while the indicated speed is zero... flying backwards sideways, upside down and forwards. I got into one of these things once, and spent half an hour trying to recover.. never regained control, but never crashed either. I just had to reset the sim. Yeah, thats what I did.. It was crazy. Like I was facing straight up, but I was kinda falling.. ever so slowly. If I was the pilot, I woulda puked.. like 5 times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumzi Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Heheh.. With some of the stuff I've done, the contrails look more like heart-rate monitors. I have found some very weird things with maneuvering though.. If you roll for long enough, with the rudder, eventually it seems you get into a perpetual unrecoverable spin/roll, but you still generate lift...so you eventually hit the simulator max altitude, and just stay pinned there, rolling around and spinning, all while the indicated speed is zero... flying backwards sideways, upside down and forwards. I got into one of these things once, and spent half an hour trying to recover.. never regained control, but never crashed either. I just had to reset the sim. Managed to do that too, lol I started wondering how convenient it would've been to have a "limiter" on this thing, like what Guld had on the 21. I could turn it on and have an easier time flying the valk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Woah this thread is getting kind of far down the list. Any updates on how things are going Chronocidal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted May 21, 2004 Author Share Posted May 21, 2004 Sorry, not at the moment.. I've been swamped with tests and work, haven't been able to work on anything for about two weeks. :S I still have the entire cockpit to do, so it'll still be a little while, but the exterior is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 Sorry, not at the moment.. I've been swamped with tests and work, haven't been able to work on anything for about two weeks. :S I still have the entire cockpit to do, so it'll still be a little while, but the exterior is done. Well that sounds like an update to me! Are you working on the regular cockpit or the VC? I think I mentioned before that I loved that VC even without gauges (now that FS9 has clickable virtual cockpits I don't even use the 2-D panels anymore). If you need any assistance with the layout I'd love to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel's Fury Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 That looks nice Nied!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMax1 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 FYI.... For anyone that is flying this plane in FS2004 and the flaps don't work. change the "system_type" on all the flap sections from 1 to 0 in the CFG file. It shoujld work. Just thought I would share........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMax1 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 BUMP--- any new news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted June 2, 2004 Author Share Posted June 2, 2004 emm... not really, no unfortunately. I've had to put pretty much all my hobbies on hold while I finish up my last two weeks of classes. But things should lighten up over the summer, and I'll be able to finish the cockpit, and release the final version of this thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesker99 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 <-------- cant wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 emm... not really, no unfortunately. I've had to put pretty much all my hobbies on hold while I finish up my last two weeks of classes. But things should lighten up over the summer, and I'll be able to finish the cockpit, and release the final version of this thing. I may have already said this but I'd be happy to help you in any way that I can (textures, or compatability testing etc.). Otherwise I gotta say that I can't wait to see the finished product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I can't wait to see the -22! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 Heheh.. Neither can I. I've got the reference pics all ready, I just haven't had time to start the model yet. It's gonna be a summer project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesker99 Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 /me passes out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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