VF-25 Messiah

So, what are the chances that Alto pegged Ozma with some sort of homing beacon?

They seemed to linger and emphasize that little orange thingy a bit much, didn't they?

Not really. I thought they focused more on Alto's damage to be honest. Anyway, as been stated it's the typical (samurai) showdown sequence, with a run by where both attack once. The audience then gets to determine who won the exchange by looking at the damage each sustained, which usually only becomes apparent once they've long passed each other.

Okay... not quite the way I expected things to go. Doesn't actually fit completely with what we've learned yet, so there's going to be pretty intense development leading up to this point as well.

Also, I'd translate the longer spoiler as follows:

Horrid wording but it contains more info than the other. I'll try to polish it a little once I've woken up more...

damn, like another poster said way back..

if Sheryl must die...then Alto has to die too... I don't hate Ranka, but seriously Ranka and Alto just don't make any sense together

My guess is Sheryl dies, and Alto and Ranka go their sepperate ways. Alto will most assuredly live though.

Luca's a goner. Nanase is going to wake up from her coma and not even notice he's gone.

Thanks a lot, I just stopped repeating that in my head until I read your post.

Now it starts again:

do-de-doop do-do-do do-de-doop...Ninji-n Loves You Yeah!!! do-do-do

do-de-doop do-do-do do-de-doop...Ninji-n Loves You Yeah!!! do-do-do

do-de-doop do-do-do do-de-doop...Ninji-n Loves You Yeah!!! do-do-do

Please make it stop!!!!

Try listening to Bobby's version. It tends to produce interesting results.

Could it be, the Hory Froating Head himself?

Anyway, has anyone translated todays post?

Allow me:

"Definitely no!

Theme: Blog.

Death.

The future I thought would go on forever is being swallowed up by pitch black darkness.

No.

Definitely not!"　(note: the word used for 'no' or 'not' here is generally used for expressing displeasure and or rejection... that being said the entry sounds less dorky in the original japanese than this translation)

BTW....Did Mr. Bilrer know or did he give his blessing to Capt. Wilder in hi-jacking the Qaurter?

Nothing is said or done to imply that Bilrer knew or gave his blessing about the Quarter going rogue.

I think everyone arguing that Michel may be alive are setting themselves up for disappointment. Me? I'd rather not have a another Gamlin, even though I liked Michel as a character a lot.

Actually I remember that Ozma said in Episode 2 that S.M.S. members didn't get goverment burial ceremonies, graves or markers (remember what they made to Gilliam's body)... And that stone in the pic is clearly a tombstone in the Frontier graveyard. Ergo, is obvious that Klan was responsible for bringing Michael's body back and putting him in a grave (like his sister)...

Exactly. The body is used as bio fuel. Thus no body in the grave. A tombstone but no content. Just my opinion but I don't see anything that obviously disproves it. Doesn't change the fact that he's dead though.

Rewatched the raw and noticed that Klan was sitting next to Michael Blanc's grave... resting on his tombstone when she got Cathy's text message. I read it and it clearly said "Michael Blanc, 2042 - 2059". Does anybody has a pic of that scene? It is clearly a confirmation that Michael is dead... No cyborg return or anything like it anymore...

Ask and ye shall receive.

Of course, don't actually think anyone's buried there. Doesn't frontier avoid burying people at all? Still think he's dead though.

Let me rephrase. I thought that Ozma was cutting Alto slack and wasn't fighting seriously while Alto gave it his all to fight "sempai". As someone said, Ozma only fired one shot throughout the fight and it hit Alto in the shoulder.

In hindsight Alto might or might not be shooting to kill but Ozma definately isn't given his skill but also underestimated Alto because he got hit on the fastpacks as well. And of course there's the issue on performance of VF-117EX vs VF-25 Full Armored......

I have to retract my last comment, as it seems we're in agreement.

I too am a bit unsure wether Alto was shooting to kill, but he was for certain taking the fight way more seriously than Ozma was.

As for performance differences between the machines, they might actually be monstrously huge or not so big at all, but it doesn't actually have any bearing on the original question: "Did Ozma in the VF-25S pwn Alto in an upgraded VF-171? OR where they evenly matched?" It does have bearing on potential followup questions "Would the result have been the same if they were piloting the same machine?". Small but important difference

Thank you good sir.

Why you are quite welcome, Sir.

Oh and if you feel you cannot await the release of the much anticipated second OST, I am happy to inform you that the song in question may be found on the "Lion" single which is out now.

I'm kind of happy the whole Charles, Ragnarok, Sword of Akasha, kill God etc bull is over with. Greatly upped the chances for a more straightforward down to earth finale involving the showdown between Lelouch and Schneizel.

I just watched the episode again, and wanted to know if anybody knows the name of the ending song, and when/if theres going to bea 2nd ost for MF. Theres so many songs i want and cant get.

Northern Cross. Same title as the episode title. A pattern that's been used since episode 19.

Makes me wonder if the pattern's gonna break next week or are they going to whip out a new song called "True begin?"

Evenly matched and seems each other were not aiming to kill each other.

I disagree, but that could just be because I'm an unabashed GARma Lee fan. I could certainly see this being the case though.

I'm a bit confused, but did Ozma in the VF-25S pwn Alto in an upgraded VF-171? OR where they evenly matched?

They both got a hit in, but I thought Ozma's looked like the bigger hit. Alto scraped the top of Ozma's armour pack while Ozma got a good hit in the shoulder area of Altos VF-171EX

Also I think that Alto was shooting to kill (He was firing at Ozma a whole lot at least), while Ozma just shot once to incapacitate Altos fighter. (It's the only time he fires in their entire matchup). Ozma then comments "You've gotten better".

So yeah, this one goes to Ozma.

Actually, despite not knowing nihongo at all, I think I heard the narrator say

"begining"

...

The katakana reads "トゥルー・ビギン", "Turuu bigin", "True begin".

What is it that Grace says in the end?

"Bajura no shin ....." something something. I think she says that finally, the new vajra queen has arrived (on planet) ???

Say....what's the episode title of next episode? I can't catch it.

"True Begin" (Yes, not beginning, but begin)

HQ raws are out.

'bout time

Well, Macross Zero was excellent (for me at least), but it was Frontier what made me watch the 36 episodes of the original SDF Macross in Youtube (God bless the internet) a few months ago...

I can't wait to see some Macross F merchandise (toys!!!)...

Oh come on. The original, no matter how dated, deserves to be viewed under better conditions than that.

while everyone wants to use the most literal translation, I think Ozma is really asking

Alto, who do you really fly for?

and says something like

"What I'm doing is best to protect the woman I love."

The rough translations tend to overcomplicate matters and see another meaning that isn't there...

I'm usually pretty good at getting the intended meaning/context when translating from literal translation to *real* translation... but take that for what it's worth, friends.

Question: Is Sheryl's second singing appearance new animation or traced?

I thought her opening shot in Northern Cross may be ripped from the first two episodes....

The latter I believe.

This episode ain't so bad. I like Sheryl's new song. I wonder which episode they're going to play it fully since we know we only have 25 episodes.

Things I understood without the subs so help me God.

Ozma and Cathy's investigation somehow led them to siding with the Vajra---maybe understanding why Ranka left---other than the fact that Leon isn't to be trusted. They informed every member of SMS that they'll be going after Ranka or something similar. Alto received the message, but was interrupted when Sheryl woke up. Alto was carried away by Sheryl's condition, I see it as a spur of the moment projected from what happened to his mom but don't let me ruin your own view, and told her that he'll stay by her side till the last moment. Cut to Ranka telling Ai-kun that she feels glad at the moment, but also in pain at the same time. I could only guess. Cut to Alto later on. He finally read the message and (my, is he afraid of Ranka now? what a face) chose to stick to what he decided nonetheless. As SMS Quarter made its departure, Klan (?), Luca, and Alto stayed behind acting as the opposition.

Ozma and Alto had a showdown, and Ozma passive aggressively insulted Alto while they battle. He then confronted him and said, "To whom are your wings for?". He said Ranka chose her own path, he--himself--chose his own (which is to find Ranka), and brought back the question to Alto. "How about you? Where is your path?" Alto's frustration went max and all he could do was scream.

The finale will absolutely be astounding with things being set-up like this. I can't wait. Great episode.

Did you understand what was said at the very end? Does anybody has a pic of the

Protoculture Triangler Planet

that appeared then?

You mean this?

I liked how

Bobby comforted Cathy for her father's death

... It seemed pretty ironic since at the earlier episodes he seemed to dislike her a lot...

Maybe he was trying to score points with Ozma?

... More likely he's simply doing his job as SMS's Claudia