VF-25 Messiah

Or even if she is the 9th of anything, doesn't mean that she was the 9th to be experimented on. it could just mean she was the 9th person they tried to make into an idol of minmei proportions.

I believe she's the 9th. Just like Q1 (Queen-1?) indicates Ranka being the first of her 'kind'. Galaxy Anonymous just likes to name everything neatly with numbers

What better way to have the subject [of illegal human subject testing] available in the lab for study? Nobody would wonder why Ranshe was in the lab.

Grace: "Hey Ranshe, we need some more control blood samples today, do you think you could provide some?"

Ranshe: "What, again? Why don't you provide some yourself!"

Grace: "You know I don't have the right blood type..."

Ranshe: "Oh, fine!"

If you had originally meant that Ranshe was in on it, why would Grace feel the need to blow up the 117th to cover it up? She would already know.

Based on the article Klan and Michael found, we do have a set date for when Sheryl was picked up by Grace, right? I'm not sure what that date is, but there's plenty unknown about after the 117th's disappearance that she may yet be connected somehow, besides just through Grace.

It was *two* articles. One is the presentation of the thesis by Mao, Ranshe and Grace and it's from 2047, from the 117th. The second is a medical record of a treated patient, Sheryl, and its from 2053, from Galaxy. 117th is destroyed by the Vajra in 2048.

This is my theory:

Ranshe Mei = Fairy 1. Secretly infected by Grace with the v-type virus as part of her [own?] private experiments.

Ranka was born with the v-type DNA inserted in her genome (transmitted from the virus in mom as opposed to being exogenously introduced from an outside source).

When Ranshe starts exhibiting the symptoms of the infection, Mao et al. start to trace the source of the infection.

Grace realizing that the jig is up, engineers the destruction of the 117th Research Fleet.

Grace escapes and goes on to produce Fairies 2-9.

In the end our heroes will foil the plans of Grace & Co. and being indestructable Grace will move on to pursue even more grand and evil schemes.

So Grace secretly infected her partner with the disease they're researching?

And a rather extreme way of sweeping things under the rug (though admittedly, she seems to like that sort of thing)

Seriously though, if Ranshe was ever infected it was more likely by her own doing.

I'm right there with you, although I find Armoured VF-25's shooting their load (of missiles) far sexier. It's called Mecha Pr0n for a reason.

Oh please, you embarrass me!

Something President Glass said in episode 18 has me thinking. Frontier and NUNG are separatists and are trying to get far away from the UNG/earth sphere of influence.

Because he said they're looking for a new earth? That's the goal of ALL colonization fleets.

We better write Kawamori and warn him. I'm sure he wouldn't want Duke Togo's death on his conscience

Well, if you read my whole post then you have seen that I postulated a hypothesis much like your own. Still, a lot things don´t add up yet. Neither hypothesis can be disproved, because we are missing lots of facts.

It all depends if the writers want to share more of those hints with us, but if they wouldn´t do that, why raise them in the first place?

I did read your whole post. Then I made my own.

Mine doesn't disprove yours, nor do I ever try to claim that it does.

And yes there's a lot that doesn't add up. I've no doubt I'm going to have revision this quite a bit after just 1 or 2 more episodes.

Well, let´s see if I can cook up something which sounds half-way probable. ^^

All right, here's what I think

- Sheryl may be related to Mao. May be. I personally don't think she is, but I can certainly see where this is coming from.

- I don't think that Ranshe and Sheryl do look that alike really. Honestly don't. So all ideas of kinship here based on looks alone don't do it for me. This is also where I feel that all these kinship theories stem from. Their supposedly 'identical appearance'.

- I think Sheryl has the V-type because Grace purposely infected her with it. Grace was trying to make a new Q1, ie Ranka. Ranka clearly has the V-type as well, but in her case the infection seems to be 'stable', and it gives her the ability to emit fold waves when singing, affecting the Vajra. Sheryl was not so lucky.

- The flashback from episode 6 hasn't been 'disproved' or anything. Granted the one we see in this episode shows her in a far worse situation than the brief stylistic flash in episode 6.

- I'm one of the people who think there might have been 8 other 'Sheryls' before her. Galaxy Anonymous likes to categorize everything neatly with numbers.

Ranka is Q1, (Queen-1?) because she's the first of her 'kind'.

- The earings are made of Fold quartz, so they would almost certainly have had to be given to her by Grace. Or Mao if that theory is true.

Wait, so you're saying she was genetically raised then thrown away, then found by Grace and experimented on to be thrown away again?

Those Osakajin better follow the trend

FV

Japan is more than just kansai and kantou

I assume postcards.

They're not.

It's some type of collectible card set.

There's 90 different cards, (3 Galaxy SP cards, 12 SP cards and 75 normal cards)

On sale in the beginning of september, 1 pack of 10 cards will go for 420 yen.

You have to admit it: Robotech's theme is just sooo way better than SDF Macross opening!

MA-CU-ROOS, MA-CU-ROOS!

Can't tell wether you're serious or not

Anyway, the Macross chorus in the original is pure unfiltered win.

Are you trying to say that all those red lobster are the Vajra Basara's? huh.gif

Narrr, they together with the other ones would be their CF valkyries

And who said we can't have enough Macross in one series?

You can never have enough Macrosses!

And having Battle Galaxy appear as an 'evil' macross appear would be another first (not counting games)

So many questions....

With ep 18 finished, there are still a lot of questions still open and it makes me wonder if the show will only go 25 eps?

I am beginning to wonder if they may go to 36 like SDFM....

Or maybe a second season had been planned all along?

Though perhaps, when things start wrapping up, it's going to move along very quickly. Even so, 25 eps feels kinda strained.

Sort of opposite to how I feel about Seven, which was too long.

Now this is a first ... can't argue with you for the simple fact that I've never seen RT.

Also I'm an avid fan Macross BGM score, (duh de du! duuu de du de du!!) so I doubt anything would be able to compete with the original score for me. Hmmm maybe Yoko Kanno redoing the music would be awesome... but no, touching the original score is heresy!

Guess you saw RT first, so to you the RT score is the 'original'.

Also, I hope you're not including VOCAL tracks with this... I've heard some clips of the RT Minmay singing... and well... there's just no contest there.

Did I miss something? I didn't hear neither saw something about the name "Witch Craft 999".

Back in episode 13 we saw a close up of the pill with that written on it (actually '639 Witch Craft'). But no, it wasn't mentioned in this episode, but it's what they're discussing.

EDIT: Ninja'd

Although it's very small my vote goes to the Valhalla III.

Übercool design

Looks like a varauta ship?

according to ep 14 I'll buy that

Also, didn't Kawamori say something along the lines of "wouldn't it be interesting if they recieved a culture shock?" when talking about Frontier fleet in an early interview? Perhaps a big TWEEST coming up... or perhaps not.

What's funny to me is that the vajra recognize Aimo at all.. think about why they would have even heard it to begin with.

Or lets turn the tables, Aimo is their song...

Any thing I missed?

Not much, thought i'd add some things from the top of my head

5. The disease in question is the V-type that caused Hydras to go berzerk in the past. It usually doesn't transmit to humans.

7. The reason Ozma feels this is because when he was brought to a near-death situation, Ranka didn't get flashbacks like she had before.

11. The reason they don't just fold straight away is because the fold waves would just allow the Vajra to follow, they have to take all of them out before they fold away.

and mini discs too

Don't be fooled though, the format is the same, but they can probably store several exabytes (10^18) of information

Seriously? CD's in 2059?

They're those mini discs that we see the iSlug gobble up in ep 16. The case is just in the bigger cd size because... just because!

No it doesn't.

Where's that stage from?

Couldn't find a shot from the same angle, this one's from below kinda.

Agreed. Like I always said, the UN Spacy warships was one of the few things they did right in Macross 7. Seeing the NMC all decked out in a full "macross war style" does the Miyatake design truly proud.

Agreed. While I admit I have warmed up considerably to seven over the years, one of the few things I really liked from the getgo was the plethora of cruisers and frigates and whatnot that accompanied the fleet. On the flip side, one of the most dissappointing things was that a lot of the battle footage (which there really is too much to justify them being that poorly done) was just the same old stock footage of all these ships sitting uselessly around getting blown up over and over.