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dna,

hahaha!!!

I think u do need to put in the sarcasm-tag on, tho.

Just another blatant inconsistancy!!!  OH, it's just so FULL OF HOLES!!!       

Yeah. Wow, I'm reeling from the "devastating" attack (the point-by-point annihiliation of the "devastation" being completely disregarded).

What the hell are you talking about? The two of you have me so confused... I thought the discussion was about the sense of having the culture park...

It makes as much sense as the slums/squatter-area of M7.

Actually, arranged marrages(which is what Milia was trying to hook up between Mylene and Gamlin) involving young teens is a normal practice in Japan.

fwiw,

arranged-marriages is one thing.

fan-servicing a 14-year-old is quite another.

Basara seems to prefer women with large...er...assests like Sivil and Emilia. 

Well, Rex also had some good-size knockers, iirc.

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Do the Hustle!

shameless-yet-on-the-spot MIB-quote for the Hikaru-1S:

You know what the difference is between you and me? I make this look good.

Holy Crap! this is turning into a VS thread. I watched the ending the other day, and I definatly like Mac + way better than mac II in animation, story line, attention to detail. Pretty much all the way around.;

dude, Mac + is better than any other mecha-anime (macross or non-macross), except for DYRL.

check out Recon's pic of the Strike-Hikaru at http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...=4&t=2853&st=80

There is just no contest. The Strike-Hikaru just look so godly than the Roy-1S.

Whats pwn3dz?

extreme ownage.

here one taken from my friend's one cos mine is MISB-SP till i have my own place and glass cabinets installed.

Shouldnt have used flash makes the red stripe look pinkish, maybe will try taking them in natural light instead.

Cheers

ohhh, that's a really good pose, man.

That pose just really pwn3dz the Roy-1S.

Thanx.

ok, u lucky bastards that already possessed the Hikaru-1S, five-pages of discussion already and no Strike-Hikaru pic, yet.

Why dont anyone of u post the godly pic of the Hikaru-1S with the Strike FAST-pack???

You may want to look at those 5 pages again dude.....specifically pay attention to page 2

Yeah, I seen the pic on the page-2. it's generic.

I want the godly-pic instead of the generic.

like the hasegawa in http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...t=ST&f=3&t=2930

ok, u lucky bastards that already possessed the Hikaru-1S, five-pages of discussion already and no Strike-Hikaru pic, yet.

Why dont anyone of u post the godly pic of the Hikaru-1S with the Strike FAST-pack???

/me grumblingly awaits for his hikaru-1s from Tam.

love hina is harem-anime with lots of slapstick and fan-service and stuff.

silly in the middle episodes, but r0ck1n in the last 3 episodes and the X'Mas Special.

I say just give in for now and buy him the "dolls".

It's obvious that he's looking up to you and impressed alot by you. He wants to do what daddy does.

He prolly wont play with it like a girl will do, since he doesn't see you playing with your dolls.

It's all good.

Just don't let him cosplay in the Sailor-Scout/Guardian uniforms. That would be very bad.

I have just realized it's all my fault  (sobs).  he just came into my office and asked again.  Of course I said "No".  Then he replied..."But you have the pink, green and Blue haired lady all over your osfice."    (Mylene Jenius, Millia, and Minmay). 

The wife at this point has burst into laughter so hard that tears are rolling down her face.  The only thing she says "He got you."

Rob

hahaha!

he 0wn3d u there!

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Anyway, isn't that a normal idol-stuff-thingy over there, i.e. most idol-worshippers in japan are male?

Just don't panic. Yet. I'm sure your son will turn out right.

How are people able to review this when it hasn't even been released yet?

Personally I have a fansub copy and really enjoyed it. The series is better but the movie is still. Though I wish this had been split into a small OVA to really add more to the story but still good with a good bit of action. I can't wait to get an english version of the movie. I always felt the english version of the series was better then japanese version. I didn't find the japanese verison that funny which makes me want to see a english release of the movie all the more. I know I'll have a different opinion for the better when I see it.

Pre-orders, man. I get it before the retail-stores do.

Btw, you're the first person I've encountered that likes the English-dubbing of Nadesico. Fwiw, I was never a "subs-forever" type-of-fan, but I just never could like ADV's english-dubbing of Nadesico-tv.

Well, except for Gai's dubbing, of course. Gai just plain r0x0r in any language.

Macross II & Orguss 02 are both equally low in my opinion. Both completely ignored what came before, wrote up their own histories which don't fit, and end terribly. For those unfamiliar with the Orguss TV series, let me tell you this simply. O02 implies that at the end of the TV series, a second dimensional bomb was set off to correct the dimensional crossovers, and because of that, there was still a world with leftover crossover elements. This does not happen in Orguss. What happeend was the two characters which were pushed into the future when the dimensional bomb went off (at their cause), traveled back in time to prevent the initial explosion from ever happeneing to begin with (in an excellent climactic end), that very fact in itself negates Orguss 02 from ever being able to exist.

As for Macross 7 & Macross II, stop being an ass. Macross 7 is superiro to II in every way. Story, animation, mecha, characters, every freakin' way. And like I said, Macross II's animation was far from "all that," especially when you get to the last 2 episodes where the budget was almost enitrely plled out. While Macross 7 may have repeating animation, character & mecha are always consistently high quality.

Why does Macross-II and Orguss-02 have to fit some sort of continuity-box before it can be watched and enjoyed with?

I mean, Macross Plus does not really have any other continuity-stuff with either the TV-series or DYRL, other than a rather irrelevant timeline-sequence.

Yet, Macross Plus is still a premiere-class anime.

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I'll take a screen-cap of it later tonite when I get home.  If somebody doesn't do it before me today.

Cool. At least you'll put up where Keith refuses to.

ok. sorry for the delay.

First of all, we need to establish that MII follows DYRL and not TV-series, so the Supervision Army angle can be completely thrown out altogether since there was never a mention of SA in DYRL.

There was never any mention nor hint of zentran-"Creation" by the Marduk in MII, nor was there any mention of Zentran attack on the Marduk. There was also no direct mention of the Marduk capture of Zentrans. However, it was strongly hinted (imho) within Ishtar's monologue that the Marduk somehow possessed Zentraedi warriors, even tho the Marduk was already a warrior-race as established by Ishtar.

Here are the M-II sorted screen-caps links I did:

Marduk's a warrior race.

Ishtar's not a Meltran

Controling the Zentrans

Usage of Zentran by the Marduk

Enhancing the Zentrans instincts

Zentrans impelled to fight for the Marduk

As per the dialogue-sequence of the pics above, it can be strongly inferred that some rogue Zentraedi-faction were captured by the Marduks somehow.

So, is the Marduk the Protoculture then?

Nope. The Protoculture race were all basically extinct way before the events of DYRL.

The Marduk was just basically an altogether different warrior-class race who just happen to possess and use Zentran warriors as cannon-fodder, and who prolly uses Meltrans as emulators. Quite a clever take on DYRL stuff, actually.

Afaic, MII as a parallel-story independent-sequel to DYRL. Just watch it and enjoy it as such.

Did they continue using the overlays like they did in the TV series?

Nope.

There are no noticeable overlay nor any overlay side-effects on this movie, unlike the original vhs and first dvd-volumes of the TV-series. The video and the transfer are very sharp and very good.

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Well, I enjoyed Macross-II better than I enjoyed the whole Macross 7 series (tv/movie/ova).

Sure, MII fraked up the so-called "continuity", but that was never a problem with me. We're all exposed to Robotech's version of Macross prior to MII, anyway, so why griped about it. DYRL was not a viable option back then like it is now these days.

The VF-2 mechas and action-sequence in MII was pretty kewl. Most of the character-designs of Mikimoto in MII were mediocre, except for Ishtar. Ishtar was just a really kewl anime-babe.

The only bad thing I can say about it is that I completely hate the english-dubbing of Macross-II.

Nope, they didn't create the Zentradi, they just captured & enslaved them.

You forgot to add "In My Opinion" since there's no evidence one way or the other.

Well if he can come up with that quote he said he heard, he might have something. I believe they were intended to fill out the SA role (from what little there was to go off of from SDF Macross and before the Protodevlin stuff all came out in M7).

I'll take a screen-cap of it later tonite when I get home. If somebody doesn't do it before me today.

Nope, they didn't create the Zentradi, they just captured & enslaved them.

You forgot to add "In My Opinion" since there's no evidence one way or the other.

Have to agree with Keith here. It's not an opinion.

Ishtar directly revealed this to Hibiki in the MII series.

Ok. Fallen behind sharing some anime-reviews, so might as well do one on my newly-received Nadesico-movie region-1 dvd.

This movie's been delayed from being released here in Region-1 territories for quite awhile now and this release was just recently review-slammed at www.animeondvd.com, so here' my own review on it to share with you Nadesico-fans here in MacrossWorld.

image of the R1 dvd cover

[*]Movie title: Martian Successor Nadesico - Prince of Darkness movie

[*]dvd-region: 1

[*]screen: 16x9 theatrical-widescreen non-anamorphic

[*]audio: English 5.1 and 2.0 / Japanese 2.0

[*]running time: 90 minutes

[*]studio: XEBEC

[*]distributor: ADVFilms

[*]original-release (japan): 1998

[*]retail-release in US: 11/11/03

rankings:

[*] Story-Content

: C to B+ for series-fans.

: D for casual fans and newbies.

This is kinda tough to classify for content-review, as series-fans here in the States are primarily split on this, afaik. Some giving it a C and even D, while others like me gives it a B+ rating.

[*] Art and Animation: B+

This was a 1998 release and it still looks gorgeous and vibrant. The 2003-transfer was pretty good. The art is of the updated Dai-Guard (another xebec title) quality and variety. Transitions are smooth and the animation was pretty much standard. The mecha fight-scenes were done very good. Links to images I captured are below:

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[*] Voice-acting:

: A for the japanese-dubs.

: D for the english-dubs.

With the exception of the excellent english-dubbing on baddie Hokushin, the rest of the english-voices were horridly mis-casted and painful to listen to. Better stick with the Japanese-dubs with the subtitles.

[*] Subtitles: A

Nadesico is primarily dialogue-driven and ADVFilms did a very good translation-scripting. The jokes/humor came across clearly with no typos or grammar-structure weirdness compared to some other ADVFilms titles.

[*] Packaging: A

Clear-case with reversible covers; default cover is the region-1 art, while the reverse-cover is the original japanese cover-art.

[*] Menu and Extras: D

The menu is simple and pretty much generic. No extras besides some ADVFilms dvd-title catalogue. I guess ADVFilms did not secure the rights for the region-2 extras such as the trailers and promo-clips of the sexy ending-song "Dearest". Check the pic below:

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[*] story-review:

Ruri pic

Synopsis:

Two years after the end of the UnitedEarth-JovianFederation war that ended with the peace-alliance between them, another secret menace or two started wreaking havoc and destruction upon the alliance planets. The planets/areas being targetted and destroyed are all part of the Hisago Plan project. Nobody knows who this new enemy is until the just before the destruction of the station where the Hisago Plan was HQ'ed. The enemy calls themselves the Martian Successors. They possessed instantaneous accurate teleportation (called boson jumping) that is quite an advantage over the Alliance's militaries. and is led by the former Jovian leader Kasukabe. The Martian Successors successfully provoked a large defection to their side of governments and militaries from both the UnitedEarth and the Jovian-Federation . There's another group led by a black-mecha that is also fighting the Martian Successor besides the Alliance, but no one is certain if it's a friend or a foe. It's up to the Nadesico team to save the universe. Again. But the two main characters of Nadesico-TV series are presumed dead before the start of the Martian Successor revolt. It's now all up to Ruri, the captain of the Nadesico-B.

Prince of Darkness is a tight and dark movie-sequel to the Nadesico-TV series. It retains the excellent humor and dynamism of the TV-series characters and sports updated animation and art sequences, alongside a couple of new characters. Be aware that very much like the TV-series was, this movie is also pretty much dialogue-driven, both in drama and the unique Nadesico humor. You need to pay attention to the subtitles, unless of course you decided for some odd reason to listen to the english-dubs.

This is quite a busy movie, as well, with lots of goodly mecha-action. The central characters from the TV-series still plays a critical role in the very interesting overall plot and theme of the movie, even tho the two were presumed dead.

Sufficed to say, you really just need a good background on the TV-series plots for you to follow what the movie was trying to present. It is quite a departure from the TV-series presentation, however, because of it's seriousness. Overall, it's still enjoyable to most series-fans, but casual-fans and newbies surely might have problems of getting what the movie was about.

If you like an action-packed, dark, dialogue-driven, and giggle-to-lol humor anime, this movie is most likely a good rental for you. Try it before making a purchasing-decision.

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Have about a 1/2 hour left of the movie.

Dont care for it too much except for the "good guy" mecha, the zentradi mecha sucks. Im watching the English version and except for the main charictors voices, it sucks. I love the VF-2ss. Ishtar is pretty good to look at with those child bearing hips. Is it me, or did they have a completly diferent designer for the enemy mech', they look like large heads flying around going through a mid aged balding crisis.

IMHO

The Macross II english-dubbing is still one of the most horrible english-dubbing ever done in all of anime. You will most likely will hate it when they made Ishtar sing the "Mou ichido - love you" song in English. Talk about tragedy and travesty.

Better re-watch it in japanese-dub subtitled-form. The japanese-voices clearly are infinitely better and gave the series some needed decency.

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All of the songs were in japaniese with english sub, I dont know why this was, but none of the songs are in english. Also, when the Zentradi spoke, it was in japaniese with sub's. This must be a diferent version?

If I recall correcty, most of the MacII-songs in the Region-1 dvd and the old Mangle-vhs were in japanese, except specifically for the "Mou Ichido" song. It's the important climax-song Ishtar sang ala Minmay's Ai Oboete (dyrl).

I'm not sure what version you have, but if that's the case, then consider yourself extremely lucky to have escaped the travesty of the Mangle-ing of the great song "Mou Ichido".

Have about a 1/2 hour left of the movie.

Dont care for it too much except for the "good guy" mecha, the zentradi mecha sucks. Im watching the English version and except for the main charictors voices, it sucks. I love the VF-2ss. Ishtar is pretty good to look at with those child bearing hips. Is it me, or did they have a completly diferent designer for the enemy mech', they look like large heads flying around going through a mid aged balding crisis.

IMHO

The Macross II english-dubbing is still one of the most horrible english-dubbing ever done in all of anime. You will most likely will hate it when they made Ishtar sing the "Mou ichido - love you" song in English. Talk about tragedy and travesty.

Better re-watch it in japanese-dub subtitled-form. The japanese-voices clearly are infinitely better and gave the series some needed decency.

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The plastic hinge holding/connecting the backpack to the body broke and i tried using super glue to fix it but the glue just isn't strong enough to hold it.  This is without the fastpack boosters attached.  Anyone have any suggestions as to where I can get a spare hinge or which type of glue I can use that would be strong enough to hold the broken hinge and the additional weight of the boosters?

thanks in advance.

I'm not sure if the hinge you're talking about broke the same way as mine did, but here's the hackjob I did when the hinge on one of my Strikes broke before.

backpack-hack

As you can see, I basically cut up two pieces of thin-but-tough plastic from a discarded id-card or something, and used it as a front and back binder-support on the already glued-in hinge-parts. I used an alligator-clip or something on it and let it the super-glues dry completely to properly bind it.

Suffice to say, it works.

Hope this helps.