MacrossJunkie

I just got these stands today and it took me less than 5 minutes to realize these stands suck. I'm glad I only got two as I would be extremely pissed if I had wasted even more money on more. The problem with these stands is that they are too loose. Yamato put some ratcheting in a couple joints (even those are barely enough to hold up the weight of a 19), but the rest rely on almost non-existent friction to stay up. The crucial elbow joint that is used in conjunction with VFs like the 19 and 11B is one of those joints. I popped on my 19 and 11B onto the two stands and they inevitably start to fall over and could damage the wings or something else when the joint swings to the side. In the 11's case, the connector peg is smaller than the slot in the elbow joint so it's really loose. If it flops over, it will also have the added feature of catapulting your expensive VF-11B to the ground since the peg fit is pretty bad. Luckily I was watching it and propped it back up before it could do so. I don't think I could trust these stands to display any of my valks. They're just too loose and unreliable. I'd recommend just sticking with the flexi stands if anyone is wondering/on the fence about whether to get the Yamato stands or flexi display stands. edit: added picture The joints I have issue with in particular are the swivel I show along the green line and the swivel where the elbow joint connects into the stand shown along the blue line. They are both so loose that unless you display your valk at a nearly horizontal position, the weight could cause either or both of those swivel points to turn downwards and dump your valk on the shelf or the ground.

Six pictures down in this thread, there's a pic with the cockpit removed and you can see some styrofoam. Is it those pieces there that keep the cockpit up and puts pressure on the heat shield?

I hope Yamato is able to provide some sort of instruction on how to get the heat shield to lock. I find it hard to believe that they could come up with all these clever ways to do stuff like implement the integrated heat shield on the VF-11 and then frak it up by forgetting something so basic as making it so that the heat shield can stay in place. I mean look at the YF-21. Not only did they find ways to do stuff like hide the arms and the shoulders and make the nose shorter in battroid, they also engineered it well pretty much every step of the way. Very solid in fighter with no creaking or things coming loose and everything stays in place in battroid mode very well also. Also has the best looking poseable hands Yamato has ever made on a Macross toy and probably has the best grip on the gunpods as well. Sure it took a little while for people to find that you could lock the chest down as people had complained it flopped around. It turned out that it did have a way to lock it down. So I'm hoping this is the case here with the VF-11's heat shield and just no one has found out the correct way yet. *crosses fingers*

Proportions of the head and all look the same to me. Maybe it's just the angle that's making you think it looks different?

I hope overdrive or anime-export will have pre-orders for those available at some point.

Graham, Alex or whoever else has the VF-11B already... is there any merit to my observation on the previous page regarding the little bump on the heat shield? link to post

You probably just need to change the filter in your furnace more often. Also, in my experience from having one, the ionic air purifiers do dick in getting rid of dust and allergens in the air. Sure they catch enough dust to cover the surface of the attractors, but they don't move enough air to put a dent in the amount of dust floating around. From consumer reports and such, they pretty much confirm that as well. They also fill the room with ozone. If you want better results, you're probably better off getting one of those HEPA air purifiers that require filters.

QFT! "Surprise!" has become the new MW meme.

I'd be interested to see the final result also. Judging from existing pics, like this one, the back of the battroid looks more like it should be in the line art. If you look in the middle row, left pic, that part pointed to by the arrow should be folding down to cover the back. Also the gun seems to attach to the arms now like how it does on the VF-1 as you can see the grooves in the arms for the gun grip to attach to.

The heatshield looks a little different from the prototype pics. The bottom half of the heatshield in the yamato pic has that bump at the top of it. In Graham's pic, the top half of the heat shield has a similar bump extending from the bottom. Is the bottom bump still there in the production version and if so, does that top half bump lock in underneath the bottom half's bump?

Sweet. So was there something in particular you had to do to get the lower half of the heatshield to lock in place?

Is the shield level with the shoulder plates in fighter mode now? The prototypes all had the shield too low which made it not level and also created a bit of a gap underneath the upper intake between it and the shield (I'm not talking about the gap that's also in the line art).

Seriously! I keep checking my mail to see if there's a shipping notification yet. My 19 and 21 want a new friend. I'm gonna have a hard time deciding what mode to put it in since both fighter and battroid look good and I only got one for now. With so many new things coming this year, it may be a while before I get a second one.

Isamu really needs to slim down. He's getting so fat, he can't even fit into a VF-1 anymore. Your Isamu looks kinda fuzzy. Do you have your 19 normally displayed with the cockpit open?

The scan is just too blurry to see it. You can at least see it in the frame at the top of the scan next to the illustration of the gunpod. On a different note, I hope the VF-22 will come with connectors that are compatible with the new stands since it won't be coming with one and including connectors for the type of stand that comes with the 21 and SV-51 are worthless unless they plan on selling those stands separately at some point. Speaking of stands, I found it kind of funny or odd that for the VF-22 and repaint 19 pics they chose to use glass(?) blocks instead of one of their actual stands.

At closer inspection, it looks like the lines from the heat shield is still there over the windows, it's just the same red color as the canopy now. Retcon or not, I think the color scheme as depicted in the Chronicle looks better.

I think someone needs to call off sick for the rest of the day so they can get us some pics

I wonder who colored that in the chronicle. Even the Macross Design Works book shows it has a heat shield covering each of the canopy windows or maybe they just decided to make the heat shields the same color as the canopy now?

Hey it could happen. Luca just needs to focus a PPB along the leading edge of the fin.

Hypothetically speaking, if Yamato went ahead and coughed up the cash to get the license to make M7 valks, I think it wouldn't make much sense for them NOT to get as much out of it as they can. Particularly since they have/can make molds to milk for VFs with variants and existing canon schemes. That would mean M&M VF-22s, a new VF-17 mold for D & S and possibly T with some small changes (including repaints like Milia's VF-17 and green smuggler version), and a new VF-19 mold for F/S/P/Kai (also P with whale blood recolor ). At least with the 19, even though they have to make new molds, they don't have to figure out the engineering and transformation all over again, so that would be time and money saved. Maybe a tiny, tiny possibility for an Fz-109A and F, though probably not worth the effort still.

The main hinderance I see with Yamato putting out a VF-19 past the A (F,S,P or Kai) is that pretty much the entire thing would have to be new molds. Unlike the YF-21 -> VF-22 which only had mostly minor changes to a select few parts, the VF-19F and others feature changes throughout the entire VF from head to toe, nose to tail. I think the only thing they could recycle would be the hands On the other hand, this would be a good opportunity for them to try to slim down the VF further. They also could milk a VF-19 mold a lot more than the YF-19 mold due to all the different variants. So I guess we'll have to see if Yamato wants to put the effort into creating a whole new 19. Though I'm not a big fan of the 19F and S with the clipped wings and lack of canards, I for one wouldn't mind getting a 19S with super packs.

Well, it kind of looks like the new part on the bay doors are clipped on or something so it's possible you could take them off and attach the gunpods in the same way the YF-21 does, but you wouldn't be able to put the covers back over them as there's no way it would fit over the gun pods. Also as mentioned in several posts throughout the thread, no, there won't be any FAST packs with the VF-22.

I don't know if there's really any data concerning the canopy specifically. But it doesn't really avoid having a heatshield as mini-heatshields pop out of who knows where to cover the dome and the viewports in battroid mode. I don't think there would have been any way for even yamato to come up with something to incorporate that as something integrated.

1. 2 guns 2. The guns are supposed to be that color for Gamlin's VF-22. A sort of grayish blue with a lighter color trim. I think the lighting makes the gun look lighter colored. 3. No fast packs were designed for the VF-22s. The integrated gun pod mount takes the place of the bay cover packs. The only possible thing they could probably include would be the sound boosters like the ones Milia snuck off with in her VF-22 to do a little solo singing.

That Roy scheme along with the shading done looks really tight. I hope Yamato seriously takes that scheme into consideration.