mighty gorgon Posted November 9, 2003 Posted November 9, 2003 Hi, I'm new to MW forums. I've started doing a CG VF-4 (fighter only), as it seems the easiest Valk. I just finished the overall shape, and before going deeper in the detailing I wanted some comments. I am not completely convinced yet. I haven't found many references (After "mining" MW by and large), and most of them have some contradictions. I've used the Musayisa drawings, the only set that I've found complete for the 3 views, and in a decent resolution. I've also found that references in wing span do not match the length, so I used the length to scale the model. Atteched are the first renders (3 views) and a couple of perspective view. Please, any comment and especially references are greatly welcome!
mighty gorgon Posted November 9, 2003 Author Posted November 9, 2003 (edited) Ok, I am NEW to MW and I don't know how to upload images... second attempt (grunt) (I removed the links that do not work, please follow the leink below) Edited November 11, 2003 by mighty gorgon
mighty gorgon Posted November 9, 2003 Author Posted November 9, 2003 (edited) (same here...) Edited November 11, 2003 by mighty gorgon
mighty gorgon Posted November 9, 2003 Author Posted November 9, 2003 (edited) (and here... but the link to the images is working and in the next post) Edited November 11, 2003 by mighty gorgon
mighty gorgon Posted November 9, 2003 Author Posted November 9, 2003 just in case, the images can be seen at: http://www.geocities.com/bolax_the_ranger/lw2.html regds, and thnx Gorgon a.k.a. bolax
Beware of Blast Posted November 9, 2003 Posted November 9, 2003 (edited) I can see the pics by copying and pasting the link. Geocities' always like that over here. Nice work. You're on your way to become the MW's Lightning cult's new hero! Edited November 9, 2003 by Beware of Blast
Lightning Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 not bad, i think Vinnie would think its good for a start
Gerwalker Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 Very nice!! I think that the lineart from the Macross Designs book would help you a lot. And yes, Geocities links dont work well in the forums (I have a friend that didn't believe me when I told him about that but it is true!! )
Doktor Gonzo Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 Come to think of it, where IS Vinnie? Time for some new VF-4 goodliness, man!
mighty gorgon Posted November 10, 2003 Author Posted November 10, 2003 Gerwalker said: (I have a friend that didn't believe me when I told him about that but it is true!! )Â true... very true... tell your friend to check this thread...
mighty gorgon Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 (edited) Some additional details of the model, specifically the canopy area. Edited November 11, 2003 by mighty gorgon
mighty gorgon Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 Ok, now the model has proper outer wings.
mighty gorgon Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 Some initial detail in the engines... and some exhaust gases.
Lightning Posted November 15, 2003 Posted November 15, 2003 i hate to be a stickler about this, but the VF-4 has 4 engines, not just 2. there's 2 engines on top of the other two in your render
Vinnie Posted November 16, 2003 Posted November 16, 2003 What's more impressive is that you're doing it with Lightwave. I could not figure out that program for the life of me. If you want some perspective shots of my 3D VF-4 to help out with detail, let me know.
UN Spacy Posted November 16, 2003 Posted November 16, 2003 It looks GREAT so far mighty gorgon! I can't wait to see the updated pictures.
mighty gorgon Posted November 17, 2003 Author Posted November 17, 2003 Sorry folks, I've been on holidays last week. Just came back and started working on the bird again. Thnx all for the encouragment. Lightning 06 said: i hate to be a stickler about this, but the VF-4 has 4 engines, not just 2. there's 2 engines on top of the other two in your render You're right. I added them at an early stage of the mesh but, as you can see in the attached image, they did not look too good so I scrapped them. These engines will be back as soon as I get a decent tail boom. Vinnie said: What's more impressive is that you're doing it with Lightwave. I could not figure out that program for the life of me. If you want some perspective shots of my 3D VF-4 to help out with detail, let me know. Ha! ha! yes... Lightwave is intimidating at first. I tried it a couple of times without any success (I could not go much farther that a pen), until I got an excellent tutorial on WW2 planes and then LW started looking great. Check a couple of models at my homepage: http://www.geocities.com/mighty_gorgon2003/lw.htm And Vinnie, yes, I would like to see some perspective shot, especially of the tail boom. I am now working with and I cannot get the correct shape... I'll appreciate ANY help. Regds & thnx Gorgon (not Gordon)
mighty gorgon Posted November 17, 2003 Author Posted November 17, 2003 Ok, added the other 2 engines, corrected the nose AND redid the canopy. The tail boom... still wrong! Rendered as "plastic", instead of the previous shiny look. Enough for today... Regds, Gorgon
Vinnie Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 No joke, the tail boom and the nosecone were the items that took me the longest. Here's a couple shots of my WIP action with focus on the tailboom to let you see the design route I took. For me the best reference was the rear angle shot of the Battroid mode in the SKDW.
Vinnie Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 And a couple of a the WIP Battroid mode. I kind of took from everything and used the official Nue top and side schematic shots for general proportions (the front one was worthless except to add perspective). It's not there yet, but I'm workin'.
Doktor Gonzo Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 Jeez, Vinnie - Just looking at these shots makes me want to grab your shoulders and shake while screaming "FINISH!!! FINISH!!!!" Awesome stuff.
Vinnie Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 And this is the sketch from the Design Works
NoSuchFile Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 WOW! Simply WOW, can't say anything else then simply WOW! it's awsome, it's really going to look great when finished
mighty gorgon Posted November 19, 2003 Author Posted November 19, 2003 Awesome... simply awesome. And a BIG THANKS, these are the details I needed!!! Now, the problem is to build a decent VF4 model... well at least mine will NOT transform! Ok, back to the Modeller... Thnx again, Gorgon, the not so mighty
mighty gorgon Posted November 24, 2003 Author Posted November 24, 2003 Did some work on the engines. The influence of Vinnie's model is EVIDENT in the upper nozzles (Thnx, the "original" looked awful). Bye, Gorgon, the not so mighty
mighty gorgon Posted November 24, 2003 Author Posted November 24, 2003 ...Now, I have to add the guns and drill the intakes in the inner wing and the major components will be finished. And it will be the moment of detailing....
mighty gorgon Posted November 27, 2003 Author Posted November 27, 2003 Ok, have been doing some work lately: new missiles, inner wing intakes, some venier thrusters, etc. etc.
mighty gorgon Posted November 27, 2003 Author Posted November 27, 2003 Ah! and guns an the infamous tailboom...
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