Kelsain Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 (edited) I've noticed everybody here calling all the fighters of Macross "Valkyries" While I love this name for the mecha, is it really correct? I know that the VF stands for "Variable Fighter," VT stands for "Variable Trainer," & I admit I've been wondering about YF... But anyway, I always thought it was VF-1 - Valkyrie VF-4 - Lightning VF-9 - Cutlass VF-11 - Thunderbolt etc... Those were the craft's designations, and that you wouldn't call a VF-11 "Valkyrie" any more than you'd call an F-22 "Tomcat." Discuss... Edited February 11, 2005 by Kelsain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ido Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Is the vf-1 name but its also used as general vf name, you can see it clearly in Macross 7(fire valk, blazer valk, stealth valk....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 (edited) Yup, Ido's response hits the nail on the head. For a real-world equivalent, note that the names Monitor and Dreadnought refer to specific ships, while "monitor" and "dreadnought" refer to general types of ship. Example in a sentence, "HMS Hercules was a Colossus-class dreadnought completed in August, 1911." Edited February 11, 2005 by ewilen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 The VF-1 was the only real "Valkyrie", but it is used generically to designate all variable aircraft much as people use names like "Band-Aid", 'Q-Tip", and "Kleenex". Those are all brand names, not products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 The VF-1 was the only real "Valkyrie", but it is used generically to designate all variable aircraft much as people use names like "Band-Aid", 'Q-Tip", and "Kleenex". Those are all brand names, not products. I was thinking Xerox instead of copier. But it's all the same concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yman1437 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 as long as u don't call them veritech !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zentrandude Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 as long as u don't call them veritech !! i call my toliet veritech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 as long as u don't call them veritech !!    i call my toliet veritech. Mine slaps at me when I do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zentrandude Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 as long as u don't call them veritech !!    i call my toliet veritech. Mine slaps at me when I do that. that must hurt when you try to take a leak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 as long as u don't call them veritech !!    i call my toliet veritech. Mine slaps at me when I do that. that must hurt when you try to take a leak You have NO idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beto_21 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Pardon my mecha ignorance, but what does "Y" in YF-19 stands for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkPhoenix Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Pardon my mecha ignorance, but what does "Y" in YF-19 stands for? I'm not sure of its literal meaning, if there is one, but 'YF' designates a prototype aircraft, while 'VF' would mean it entered production. The YF-19 is in Macross Plus, where as the VF-19 is in Macross 7, where it had won the competition and entered mass production. Similarly there is the YF-21 and VF-22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beto_21 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Yeah, it makes sense, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 THe Y designation actually comes from the real worl d US tri-service designation system which the UN spacy seems to mostly have adopted. As it currently works the Y is tacked on before the actual type designation for prototypes of production craft (like YF-22, or YF-17). The Spacy must not be following the tri-service system exactly since they would properly call the VF-19 prototype YVF-19 (that and their penchant for using out of order letters like S for certain subtypes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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