Bariaburu Faita
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On 8/14/2019 at 11:15 PM, Seto Kaiba said:
Personally, my view would be aligned with the fan theory that Macross II: Lovers Again is a popular in-universe work of dramatic fiction from the early 2040s.
That would explain (in-universe) why the OVA's soundtrack seems to be EVERYWHERE in Macross 7, from the repertoires of the other popular musicians in the 37th emigrant fleet to hit music on the Galaxy Network charts, why the Minmay Attack girl has a cameo in the series as an already-successful idol singer, and why the Macross 7 NUNS's attempt to put together its own Sound Force (the Jamming Birds) uses the same songs the military was promoting for its events in the OVA (e.g. Riding in your Valkyrie).
The UN Spacy of Macross II relies heavily on Zentradi warships the way the postwar Spacy did in the main Macross timeline, there are still Destroids, and the VF-2SS Valkyrie II is roughly on par with a VF-11 performance-wise (the military's current main fighter) even though it's more technologically advanced. My guess would be it was probably shot using real Zentradi ships, modified Regults, and VF-11's that were CGI'd to appear as VF-2SS's the way Basara's VF-19 was to be CGI'd into Hikaru's VF-1S for The Lynn Minmay Story.
2092, but yeah... it's a ways into the future yet.
(2091-2092 if you take Macross Chronicle's view, which adds up to a self-indulgent Gundam reference when you note this puts the conflict in year 0079 of the New Era calendar that was established in Flash Back 2012.)
Well, at the very least, Macross prime continuity Komilia and Macross 2036 Komilia are pretty much identical (thanks to Mikimoto-sensei).
He did sneak some other nods to Macross 2036 and its sequel Eternal Love Song into his other Macross works. The pilot suit in Macross 7 Trash is the same model from Eternal Love Song albeit tweaked slightly WRT the hard-armor segments, and Global's uniform in Macross the First includes the Valkyrie pilot's wings from Macross II among his decorations.
Yes, that would make sense. I also suggest that the same production company that produced Macross II made DYRL. And being part of a multi media corporation with a subsidiary that produced the Macross 2036 video games in-universe.
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2 minutes ago, Bolt said:
Doesn't Lovers Again take place in like 2089? -It hasn't happened yet
(but it will!
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What im theorizing is that its a fictional account, of a future event, made with knowledge gained from time travel
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On 8/11/2019 at 5:21 AM, Master Dex said:
Are we going back to what is canon again? Lol, this is always fun.
Unlike a lot of properties, in Macross what is canon is basically anything from a certain point of view. The only thing that was every strictly termed to be not part of the main universe is Macross II, and even that is not necessarily considered non canon. Seto can say more being the expert on M2, and all around well researched.
EDIT: And Seto got in before I finished writing, ever the poised one. Speaking of, will you be at SDcon again this year Seto? I plan to again, after all it's a pretty short trip for me anyway.
I offer my theory on the canon status of Macross II. I believe it is a piece of in universe fiction produced before 2059 and shown to the public at the Macross Museum. The curator of the museum was able to collect information from the distant past and near future to make his displays. Probably using some form of time travel similar to what was shown in the Macross 30 game. I speculate that he had little control over the people he was able to interview, some may be unreliable witnesses. And further errors may have occurred in production, as was seen in Macross Zero sequence from Frontier. So that the Macross 2 OVA we all saw does not accurately depict what actually happens in the prime timeline.
The other possibility is that drastic extinction level events alter the galaxy so much that humanity has to restart from earth and develop exactly as shown in the OVA. Tech is lost and alien races disappear.
What do you all think would allow Macross II to fit seamlessly into the prime canon timeline?
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On 4/10/2019 at 8:04 AM, blackconvoy_D01 said:
I have a window seat at work but I want to bring in a valkyrie to display on my desk, I know a white one would be a bad idea because of yellowing; but what about the darker ones like the YF-29B?
That is still a very expensive thing to subject to UV damage. I recommend smaller inexpensive things to display like the Bandai Macross mission gachapon.
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I live in Amagasaki, right next to Osaka, I would be delighted to show you around. PM if interested in a tour.
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I saw one for sale at Mandarake a few years back when I was broke and couldn't afford it.
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I was looking through the legacy page for bandai toys, and noticed that one was missing. Does anyone have it? Or information on where it was sold?
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Thanks everyone for clearing it up.
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29 minutes ago, JB0 said:
Out of continuity, it isn't an animation error. It is the CORRECTION of an animation error.
As I understand things, the episode was initially animated with the Valkyrie one-shotting a ship with a giant beam attack, Gamlin-style. But the VF-1 doesn't HAVE a giant beam attack.
They didn't have time to fully rework the scene before airing, so they drew a bunch of missiles onto the tail fins so it could feasibly take down the ship on its own WITHOUT a giant laser beam. Replace the beam layer in the shot with a missile-swarm layer, and the ship is dead without any canon-defying cannonfire.
In-continuty? Duck-tape mod. UN Spacey likes to pretend that never happened.
Thank you for the clarification. Do you have a source for that information?
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What is the history of this variant, Star Pro maybe? Animator error?
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9 hours ago, TehPW said:
It's doing fine.... assuming you're into the idea of actually connecting Mac-II into all this, LOL...
Well, according to the official timeline, Mac-II takes place a couple decades after Delta
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One of the few Southern Cross items I’ve seen for sale recently in Japan was a unofficial fan doujinshi and it only went for ¥210 in resale shop
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On 12/28/2017 at 1:01 AM, TehPW said:
Random thoughts/questions:
1) Is there a Japanese/Overseas version of the A:BA trailer?
2) What is the typical Japanese opinion of the upcoming 2018 film?
lots of comments about eyes too big
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12 hours ago, jvmacross said:
Yes, I believe that was a 3minute digest of one of the rehearsal runs that was used to promote the show.
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1 minute ago, jvmacross said:
The Star Wars Holiday Special of the Macross franchise?
Someone had to have captured it on video!
I could see everyone in the audience. no one had a video camera
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On 3/1/2016 at 1:35 PM, jvmacross said:
I was trying to post a link to something...anything from it....but they all seemed to have vanished...in terms of Macross media...it doesn't get any more niche than the Musicalture...
I went to see this, and also wanted a video recording. But it bombed so badly they have not released any supporting merchandise afterwards. The only additional material I have found is fan made doujinshi.
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Sure, but I work late on Friday so it has to be Saturday or Sunday
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The established pattern for Macross movies, since DYRL is to be a parallel world story. A chance to do things that were cut due to budget reasons(like multiple quarters in Frontier), and to streamline the story. And, for Bandai to demand a new more powerful Valkyrie to be made so they can have an exclusive license to sell it.
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On 3/26/2017 at 0:20 PM, Thom said:
Was zoned out on IMGUR when I came across this.
This is a fairly typical reaction, as far as I`ve seen. Several other news and variety shows have done similar man on the street interviews asking people what they thought about Scarlet Johansen playing the part of the Motoko Kusanagi. For young people not overly familiar with the source material, they are mostly positive in those interviews.
I work in a factory in Japan, so I have a lot of coworkers in the 30-40 year old range that are mecha and anime fans. I asked around, and the reactions were mostly positive. The one negative, was from an older fan, who followed the original manga. He was upset that it looked too much like the anime, both movie and series. He considers those to be unfaithful to the original manga. But he was fine with Scarlet Johansen playing the part of Motoko Kusanagi.
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like most things at Comic Market, it is self published by a fan, if putting some xerox copies in a ziploc bag could be called "publishing"
He goes by the circle name Company.
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Welcome to Japan, there is another Mandarake a couple stations north of Grand Chaos, on the Midosuji subway line at Umeda.
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From Comic Market 91 by Kurobousidan circle
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Here is an interesting item I found at the recent Comic Market 91. It is an expansion for a fan made table top pen and paper tank battle simulation called "Tankhunter". This expansion adds Mecha from Macross, but also borrows some units from Southern Cross and Megazone 23, but renames some them to fit in the Macross universe. The artwork is also borrowed from various Robotech sources.
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just curious, how much was the monster selling for at MWC?
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
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This lines up with what Kawamori has stated about the overall timeline, everything is an in-universe fictionalization of a in-universe event. So I amend my theory to say that the curator of the in-universe Macross Museum in 2059 had been already familiar with the future events when he was younger, and advised the production staff of what the general outline of the plot of Macross II should be in the 2040s. I think the general population believed it to be speculative fiction, until he revealed in 2059 that it actually will happen.