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It's kinda funny... so many people in here refused to watch 7 because of the hgih-profile negative feedback, but that's part of why I went to the trouble of finding it. I wanted to have some sort of experience with it so I could judge it myself. And whadda ya know, I DIDN'T get hit with the urge to gouge my eyes out.

Because it didn't match the VF anymore. 368188[/snapback] Ah, but it does match her VF-11 (which unfortunately she doesn't have with her at this point in the series, but was quite awesome in the Top Gamlin short). 368476[/snapback] Touché. Clearly she should've kept 2 flightsuits, and worn the vintage-style one with the J and the modern one in the 11.

You don't attempt to have any sort of discussion. You attempt to turn it into a giant flamewar where anything other than "ZOMG MAC SEVEN AM TEH SUX LOLOL!11111" is responded to with mockery and personal insults by you and the goon squad. This thread makes an excellent example. There's not one shred of evidence to support your assertation that Mac7 fans beg the mods to lock threads. I know for a fact that I have NEVER requested any thread be locked. Ever. I've quit looking in threads after they'd been reduced to Anti-7 Team dick-measuring contests, contentless flaming, and general dumbassery, but that's the extent of it. You assert it because it lets you mock and deride 7 supporters while simultaneously absolving you of all responsibility for your childish, immature, and obnoxious antics.

Indeed. They have some absurdly twisted fetishes. Fortunately, this is just the funniest comic-book "adaptation" ever, and thus cool for raw suckitude.

I hate it all. I'm only hear to watch A1 and Keith go at it. Seriously... I LIKE most of it. With 5 being total apathy, 10 being perfection in animated form, and 0 being Robotech( )... SDF Macross = 8. One of my favorite animes, but wild variances in animation quality and some writing details keep it from a 9 or 10. DYRL = 7. As a standalone it's too incomplete. It's good, but not great. FB 2012 = ... Let's be serious, it's a freaking music video. If I MUST rate it, I give it a 4, largely due to the new animation sequences. I mildly dislike this one. Macross 2 = ... I haven't seen recently enough to rate. Macross Plus = 7 for the OVA, 9 for the movie. My rationale is detailed in other places, but to summarize: the OVA has some severe writing issues to the extent that it passes a reality suspension threshold set by transforming planes. But it's beautiful, and when I'm not screaming at the idiocy, I'm enjoying myself greatly. The movie lacks these holes, and is a far more enjoyable experience overall(dammit Manga, do a proper DVD release!) Macross 7 = ... let's say 6. Interesting concepts and characters, but a failed execution. I enjoyed it, but I'm not really interested in rewatching it. Macross Zero = We'll go for 6 again. I really can't say why, but this one rubbed me the wrong way. It's jaw-droppingly gorgeous, though. As with 7, I enjoyed it but don't really care to watch it again.

Yep, the M7 fans don't want to argue so they cry to the mods... Actually, I'd been typing up my counter-argument when the thread was locked. Mostly against Togo's absurd manipulation of statistics. But apparently not discussion of Macross 7, since you actively aattempt to disrupt it every time it comes up.

Depending on how exactly the hardware is designed, it could be VERY difficult to get the GBA link connection out. I've heard the logic is present on teh GBA hardware, so it might be possible to bring it out with a soldering iron. I wouldn't bet, though.

Because it didn't match the VF anymore.

It's a bit more ... impolite than Animeigo's version. Exact translations, however, are generally NOT a good idea. Some adaptation is required, or meaning gets lost. Notable example is common sayings. "Lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas" won't make any sense to a foreigner. They'll wonder what the heck you're talking about dogs and fleas for when they're busy griping about their dopehead buddy getting them arrested. Same applies in the other direction. Certain kinds of jokes, such as puns, are similarly bad.

Official statement from the hoary froating head. Hasn't been dealt with in any narrative that I'm aware of. It likely happened after one too many fan asked him "What happened next?!?!?!" He was always rather clear that he considered the story over after DYRL. He only came back because Big West did Macross 2 when he tried to let the franchise die, and redoing the whole Hikaru/Misa/Minmay triangle AGAIN was never going to happen. But people wouldn't accept "... and they all lived happily ever after" so he finally gave up and said "... and they all fell down a black hole and died" or some relative thereof.

He's not mentioned in Mac7. According to official continuity, in 2016 "Megaroad-01's communications cease near the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. (News about this ship are not publicized.)" http://macross.anime.net/story/chronology/2013/index.html That means that Hikaru, Misa, and Minmay are lost in space. They're presumed dead, but...

Looks like Windows Messenger. Which is just a stripped-down MSN Messenger that comes free with WinXP.

Hey, dressing like Spiderman is big *insurt currencyhere* REGARDLESS of the natino and time period.

Okay, that makes sense. Especially if MS was toying with the idea of putting pressure sensitivity in for another round at one point.They may not've known for sure if the buttons would be analog when they were rigging the input.

Try 5 years now. And the thing is... pressure-sensitive buttons were a bad idea when Sony decided to try it, and they aren't any better now. There's no real way to get accurate control out of them, so ALMOST no one used them. I AM baffled at why PGR3 wouldn't be using the analog triggers for gas and brakes, as they-re still present and actually work worth a damn.

Having watched it now... I don't know if I should be relieved or disappointed that it's a spoof translation and not an accurate one.

I heard there's some problems with that one. Something about it using the idiocy known as pressure-sensitive buttons, which the 360 lacks.

Someone subbed Sentai Spidey? ... WHY?

WTF? How the HELL is the recon pilot flying into an asteroid classified as "Misa being stubborn"? The stubbonr one in that scene was Hikaru, who disobeyed direct orders to abandon her and got himself and Kakizaki captured in the process. ... Hikaru disobeyed orders to abandon Misa a lot, come to think of it.

Oooh, just wait. 367309[/snapback] Exactly what I was thinking... *dons asbestos suit* I've got spares. First come, first serve.

He's 16 at start. I think he'd be 19 at the end. Maybe 18, depending on when his birthday lands(current timeline lists the Macross' launch in February, so 19 is mroe likely). And the assumption that he's actively trying to get laid is a fairly large one since, as you observed, he's a "nice guy."

Don't forget his other redeeming quality. His love for good booze. 367164[/snapback] Ah, right. How COULD I forget that part?

Oooookay then... Only part of that I even feel safe toching is Kamjin. He didn't really ahve a lot of character to develop. He was a loon, plain and simple. He defolded into aliied fleets and made bets on how many ships he'd hit, he shot his own men just for kicks, and the only redeeming quality he had was that he was good at killing.

Kaifun was always an interesting character. He was an anti war new wave hippy but he probably would have made a good combat pilot. Good reflexes, good coordination, etc. Its definitely against type. Ever notice how its only the fat old droopy chicks who protest that the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue is degrading to women. Its always humorous that the women protesting the hardest are the ones you'd least likely want to hump while sober. Kaifun being anti war is like Jessica Alba denouncing the SI Swimsuit issue in public. One of the nice things about the McKinney books, is Kaifun actually becomes a skilled combat pilot while shadowing Minmei and his view of the war and the military change. [Except Sentinels sucked regardless of who was writing it. I'm not sure about forcing him into it by killing his parents. Pretty out of character, as he'd've more likely blamed the UN forces for antagonizing the Zentradi. Besides, it didn't work the first time. Remember, the world thought South Ataria Island was destroyed by anti-UN actions, not an assault by alien forces and subsequent space fold accident. He could've joined the UN forces to smack down the anti-UN and avenge his parents. Interestingly, I think that WAS the backstory for Shin in MacZero, though. AntiUN killed his family, so he signed on for vengeance. But I thought Kaifun's character really went down the crapper in the post-war arc, so ANYTHING would have been an improvement. And actually, the fighter pilot wasn't too much of a stretch. Running through things... He was an idealist initially. He was sure that there was always a peaceful solution, and the military just made it easier to use force than work things out. He seemed to have been coming to grips with his excessive idealism towards the end. He didn't rant about how they shouldn't attack the zentradi fleet when news of the impending doom came through, just expressed his belief that they couldn't win. Heck, he even took part in the psych warfare aspect of the final battle. Kaifun actively participated in a military offensive. He seemed to have accepted that sometimes the other side doesn't really want to talk and you just have to shoot back. From there... as you noted, Kaifun was a skilled martial artist. While he hadn't taken it with the intent of fighting, it indicates he'd probably fit right in with more modern combat training. He might not quite have the military mindset, but the situation aboard the Macross was such that they'd take what they could get. Hikaru had more or less the same character development, he just never ran around protesting. But he got smacked into it beause he saw the devastation first-hand during the first transformation. Kaifun didn't really see it until Kamjin invaded the city much later, and that was immediatly before the war ended. Even then, he probably would've blamed the military if it hadn't been for the other things happening around then. There was Max and Millia's wedding with Global's big warm fuzzy speech, the zentradi defectors, Kamjin's attempt to mow down the defectors, and the negotiations with Britai's fleet(and Exedol's lessons on zentradi society and history). I suspect all that had a lot to do with Kaifun's acceptance of the need for at least defensive military actions. After the war, he was just throwing anti-military rhetoric out there to stir up trouble. And took up drinking. It was probably a response to the raw devastation the war had unleashed(it'd be hard to take that much damage in rationally), but it wasn't handled very well.

Just thinking, but... any attempt at moving in would be delayed a bit, as they were both rather laid back about the whole thing at first. And they had enough spikes of hope(the discovery of water being the first big one) that they sustained their optimism a lot longer than they had any right to. It took 'em a week or so(I'd have to watch to see how long) to decide that there wasn't an easy way out and a search party wasn't going to find them. Essentially they realized it was less like being lost on a ship and more like being stranded in a desert. That's when the situation would really start chipping away at their normal behaviors and ways of thinking. Towards the end, Minmay was in pretty bad shape. She was cracking FAST. Hikaru was holding up better, probably because his life as a stunt pilot left him remarkably aware of his mortality for someone his age, though he was also a bit more realistic. He'd been keeping track of their resources and efforts, and already noticed tehir rapidly dwindling options. Reality had settled in on him gradually and he'd had a chance to come to grips with it. Things hit Minmay all at once("Well, that didn't work, but we can still get out some other way. What? We can't? We've already used up all our options? And we're outta food?!?!?!?! I'M TOO YOUNG TO DIE!!!!!!"). His biggest mental burden was the cute girl trying to convince him to jump out an airlock. Had they been less positive about the entire situation in the first place, or been down there a little longer(given Minmay's state of mind, it may've not even been a day), things would've taken a MUCH diffrent turn.