Abombz!!

You're kidding right? With his dual catapults? Sure he was not on the level of anything Season 1... but compared to the other Armada crud... he was pretty nice.

I like Appleseed.... but gee, most of his work now a days is what I consider soft hentai. <_

Oh yeah.... on the topic. I doubt the Zentradi boycotted DYRL. Why? Because, 1- It was all true, 2- They were infatuated with human culture, 3- Because they could care less, just watching Minmei sing was enough for them. 4- Because, now, its simply a movie. I doubt they would boycot something so trivial as humans had recognized the merits of the Zentradi (i.e. putting them in high ranking positions in the Spacy).

Puke green? Are you color blind? I could care less about graphics.... when the games were well executed. Good execution was what was missing in the GG and its MS ports. <_< No it couldn't. I was so pissed at how fast it was eating through batteries (they are expensive here, you know) that I actually took the time to see how long it took to eat through 8 batteries. 2 hours, 8 minutes and 55 seconds. You cannont use the DC in this case because the GG graphics weren't much better. As for the DC... it lacked support, pure and simple. Price has nothing to do with varienty. The GB had it, the GG had not. In the long run... with the GG... you would have to spend much more then you did with a GB, and still end up with less variety games wise. While you could play original games on the GB, you were stuck with downgraded MS ports on the GG. The GB Color was still superior to the GB and the GG. If you doubt... try running the GBC only game son a GB. And why not? Because one thing Nintendo had that Sega did not.... knowledge of how things work. Thats why Sega is out of the console run and Nintendo is not. I did not. At least I didn't feel like I suddenly got color blind like I did playing the colorless Sega Genesis games. <_<

You are out of luck. Import games are expensive no matter were you look.

Errr... the graphics were better? The games were better? The console design was better?!?!?!?!! What are you smoking. Are you saying that an over heating, battery eating, blurry graphics, annoying games, make the Game Gear better then the Game Boy? You never really played a GB have you? The GB could run with 4 AA batteries for almost a day.... while the Game Gear could barely run on 8 for 2 hours. And don't give me that "I used an adapter!!" excuse.... a handheld that must be plugged into an outlet is not a handheld at all. If that is true... why the heck was the GG such a failure? What you call only.... was enough to kill, what you call, strong competition. Marginally better? A system that can run for days on 2 simply AA batteries is only marginally better? While the GG was struggling to handle Master System ports (a 8bit system by the way), the GBA can run SNES (a 16 bit console) games without breaking a sweat and still handle 3D graphics that neither the SNES or the GG could No... they were ran by Japanese. Ppl with small hands.... the same ppl that designed the award winning Game Boy, the best selling console to date, and even after having been outdated by years, was still selling strong. The same can't be said about the GG.

Lets analyse this, shall we? Sure... but then again, theres nothing saying it was a movie within a movie either. Untill then... no ammount of guessing will make something a fact. The fact is.... untill 1994, DYRL was simply a movie, it wasn't a movie within a movie, because the creators didn't say so. .... that no one had a clue what the status of DYRL was, continuity wise, untill 1994. You argument that Flashback proves everything, doesn;t make an ounce of sense. Flashback was simply a 30 minutes episode with every single Minmei song and clips from both DYRL and SDF Macross, and a footages showing the end of SDF Macross story, with Misa, Minmei and Hikaru leaving in the Megaroad. What does that mean? Absolutly nothing!! If Bandai suddenly decided to splice footage of MS Gundam and Gundam SEED while playing Utada Hiakru in the back and showing 30 seconds of never before seen footage of Amuro and Char, doesn't mean Gundam Seed is suddenly part of MS Gundam. As you know.... Seed is a retelling of MS Gundam, just as DYRL is a retelling of SDF Macross. One thing doesn't lead to the other. Why was Flashback included in the end of DYRL? Maybe because they figured charging $45 for 30 minutes of video clips was the biggest rip off anyone could ever come up with.

Yeah.... what have you come up with? Your word? Give me a break!! Unless you were directly involved in the production of SDF Macross and DYRL, and are aware of what exactly went on the minds of Kawamori and the ppl on Studio Nue.... your guess as good as ours, and your word isn't a fact.

So... what you are saying is that you are full of crap, and that we should take your word for it simply because you claim to have deciphered the supreme truth about DYRL in the Macross continuity, while, us, peons, are still oblivious to it? <_< This is an excuse for someone who can't find hard facts to prove his point.

I don't know... while robot mode is nice.... fighter mode isn't. I kind of liked Armada Starscream... it was one of the nicer ones.

You never know... they might have added that. Maybe you can even shoot at the viewport and watch it vent hundreds of tiny little ppl screaming at their certain deaths.

Yeah... well... at least 10 different ppl already claimed that in different ways... and yet, this thread is still alive. <_<

Abombz: I, EXO, ewilen and Lone Wolf have been trying to get some proof and translations together... it's just taking some time. Thanks to all who have posted proof in this thread, it has been a great help to show people what has been said "in the record" on this issue. I know... and I appreciate the effort. At least someone here is trying hard to prove something. But one cannot deny that before thelonewolf supplied the material, this was one heck of a pissing contest. <_<

Britai is a commander type Zentradi. not only is he taller and tougher, he is probably capable of keeping himself alive in space for a short while. He is like a Zentradi on steroids. As for money in Macross city.... some kind they probably used. I don't know in restaurants though, as the food was supplied by the army anyways.

I really like the VF9 in the back.

It is a great argument, just one dumb participant who is arguing with, well.. Everyone. I'm only saying its dumb because..... both sides have been repeating themselves for the past 2 pages or so. One side asks for proof while the other dodges the request. <_<

Since when has there been an Alien 3? And what's this "Resurection" you speak of? If only I had pics to burn your eyes!!

Not earth shaking news, but it's good to know that he's at least considering another Alien film. Sounds like he has been reading too many Alien comics... and thats not a bad thing. Perhaps this way we could bump Alien 3 and Resurection out of the continuity.

Bulls Eye!!

This is the dumbest argument I have seen in my entire life. This even beats the whole translation debacle that went on the debate thread a few months ago. <_

Did anyone else cry when they saw this shot? Look at the detail!! its indeed DYRL SDF 1!!

Gamespot has a similar report on SDF Macross.

Ah yes! Cel Shaded FPS fun. I have no clue what MS is thinking. <_<

If you are going to base your judgement on a system based on the majority of its games..... you might as well just make the PSX the worst console ever. The system had a 1 good game every 20 bad games.... thats a pretty ugly curve. Not only that... but in a few years every single PSX game is going to look ugly, simply because low res 3D games don't age gracefully. Many members have posted lists of games that not only hold up well against recent games, but many are being ported to current consoles. If you want a complete list of SNES games that are either comparable to PSX/PS2 games or surpass them.... I will gladly take the time to write a full list. We are not saying PSX games are not original... we are simply saying that, even being original... doesn't mean they stand the test of time well. And you consider this to be something good? BTW.... SNES RPGs were already there... without the need for the graphics Halo had a story? You are kidding right? Did your brain fry because of the repeated rooms? Half Life had a much better story then Halo. Jedi Knights had a much better story then Halo. Those games were either 2 or more years older then Halo, those 2 were the real revolution. Halos story, IMO, doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of Half Life. And Halo being fun is debatable. So you are saying that, this little turd was better then most SNES games? MGS 2 is a turd because you watched more then you played. Those early GB games had more game play and revolution then MSG2 in its entirety. AC04 will not be remembered by its story... it will be remembered because it was a fun and extremely well executed game. For a gamer.... your views are extremely messed up. You are putting originality over execution. It doesn't matter if a game has the most amazing story of all time.... if it doesn't play well... its not a good game. Its all about playing a game, not watching it. You are making yourself sound like a casual gamers.... who values flash over substance.

I guess I know what you mean. Well, actually I kind of like the mix, primarily because I really like the TV Max-1A, and consider it integral in bringing back some of the TV fight scenes... but it being mixed with the Red Millia is just wacky. I guess they tried to bring the best elements of both, retaining TV elements when appropriate or noteworthy and important to the scene (Max 1A, carrier arms)... and giving it a shot of DYRL (the actual model of the Valk/SDF-1). Not that bad of a choice... But at the very least, I would have expected some consistency *within* a particular scene. You know, like have Millia actually be green. There's lots of ways to do hybrids of both series for something that's still convincing. Of course there are ways to screw it up. -Al I was thinking about it.... maybe its a versus mode? Perhaps the versus mode in this game you get to chose the arena and the colors for your mecha.