505thAirborne

Good pix n all, but I hate to nitpick but you need to turn that super hikaru into a strike hikaru! You took a pix of the 1S doing the infamous last battle pose and yet there's no cannon on it! sad....

Maybe this is more of what you had in mind, I went and dug out my VF-1 Strike armor box and put the cannons on, plus the missile packs and sling!! Looks a bit more deadly now!!

I guess that Roy is a bit shocked by this flyby

That is a sick camo scheme on that SV-51 !!!! Excellent job Ghostkiller!! And Roy wasn't shocked, he was just impressed by the paint job!!

Thought I'd take a few striking pictures of my own!! Hikaru blasting away and Shin's VF-0A along with His helmet, Well actually its my old HGU series Navy flight helmet (real-not a prop) and repainted to look like Shins flight helmet from Macross Zero. Enjoy!!

Its been interesting to see the different opinions made and claimed here since I added this original post. I think the part that makes me scratch my head more than anything are the people who complain about either "Why do we need a documentary?" or "the answers are already there, what more do you need?". Above all, this is supposed to be a prequel, which means it should lead up to the original story. And remember guys, this is to the events of Macross DYRL, not the TV Series. If this was only about a secret operation, why not just call it "The Roy Fokker Chronicles".

But as was done in Macross Plus, I still say they should take the best parts of Macross Zero and add in about about 30 or so minutes of all new scenes and a real ending. Give an ending, do I dare say it.... Like how Gundam 0083 ended, great ending, All loose pieces all tied up.

Again, why sit and say, the series was so-so or yeah I guess, or my personal favorite, who cares I am all about the new series now. Why not go back and turn what was a masterpiece of art and design and obliviously rushed at times and probably budget cut series into probably the best macross series to date.

Long story short is that Anime is a business, and its about money. I will bet that if they revisited it and reworked it, made a series of improvements. People who have a negative opinion or just a lack of enthusiasm, would do a 180 on Macross Zero and see how great it is.

But its just my opinion....

I was among the supporters of the idea of everything being in 1/48 scale, but lots of people pissed and moaned that the YF-19 and YF-21 would be too big. Since the VF-0, YF-19, SV-51, and YF-21 are being done in 1/60 scale, with the VF-1s being redone in 1/60, just stick with 1/60. Imagine doing the MKII Monster in 1/48 though! It would be awesome huge!

And, yes, 505thAirborne, the new 1/60 scale VF-1s will be close to the same size as the old 1/60 scale valkyries, because they are in the same scale and they're supposed to be the same valkyrie. So even though the 1/60 VF-1 will be smaller than the VF-0, SV-51, YF-19, and YF-21, those valks are all normally larger than the VF-1 anyway.

Glad to know I am not alone on the 1/48 theory!! Well at least the new 1/60's should match up well with old ones!!

Maybe I missed it in another or part of this thread, But does this mean that the New 1/60 scale VF-1's will be the same size as the original Diecast version 1/60's from a few years ago?? Just that they will be as detailed (so they say) and transform much like the 1/48 series?

Maybe i am wrong, but it would have been cool just to make All the Valkyries from Macross Zero & Plus in 1/48. So what if they would have been big or huge... Would anyone really have complained, especially with the prices and issues. But thats just my opinion. Frankly a 1/48 scale VF-0A would have been awesome to match with my VF-1S & 1A!!

Lets just hope Yamato does a Low Vis. 1 and 2 seater models for the new 1/60's!!

Zoinks!! 11 SDF-1's !!! Is Bill Gates your relative?

Hey guys, Well here is my small collection of Macross toys and models!! Mostly Yamato, but there are some old school and Bandai's mixed in. Hopefully there will be more added, especially some more Macross Zero items. I have a VF-2SS I am working on, but thats to be seen later!! comments welcomed, To all pioneers, Enjoy!!

As for Macross II, If you are really a Macross fan and enjoy the Macross Universe for what it represents, Then macross II is as good as any of the other series. I agree that the Animation lacks at times, Especially Episode 6, that is the most rushed or under funded episode of the series. But the music is really good, the VF-2SS is one of the better designed Valkyries out there. The the story was so-so, I think someone else said it was more or less a continued DYRL story line... yeah, thats pretty much what it is.

But as for series like Macross 7 & M Zero, Macross 2 is just far better. Haruhiko Mikimoto is one of the greatest Anime designers out there imo and he did give us some great characters, Sylvie Gina and Ishtar are awesome!! Macross Zero wasn't even as good, The Animation on the fighters and mecha was amazing, but what if Mikimoto had done the designs, it would have been 10 times better, Plus a story that is so loose, it just never holds up. Macross 7 is ok, but still haven't found a good copy to sit down and watch all the way through... So I won't bash it.

I've been watching macross since I 1st though Robotech in 1985 was the original, then learned the real story. So for all those who want to bash Macross II, its your choice, but overall its just not that bad. Besides, if you have never even watched it, how can you have an opinion?? Not everything Kawamori is sacred. Personally with the new technologies out there, I would love to see this series as a remake with far better funding and direction, yet still having Mikimoto as the character designer.

MACROSS for Life!!

Yeah I got one for you. The SV-51 looks great with modelmasters "transgressor gray", mixed with a hint of black.

Awesome, thanks for the info, The VF-0A is a bit easier to figure out since it is simply borrowing the colors of a US Navy F-14 or F-18, But the SV-51 however... Now I know what to try. Take care man!!

Hi Every one, Well after years of only building 1/48 F-14, F-18 and MIG fighter planes, WWII aircraft too and even having alot of the Yamato Toy line, I decided to buy myself some of the Macross Zero model kits. I have the VF-0A w/Booster and the SV-51r w/booster kits.

Just wondered if any experienced veterans out there have any advice for the proper colors to use or any helpful hints on assembly, Its been about 10 years since I have worked with 1/72 scale kits. Mostly 1:48 and the occasional 1:32 scale for me. But with Yamato Zero toys costing a small fortune and parts breaking, I thought this might be safer!!

Thanks everyone, I'll keep ya posted as to how these are turning out, Heres a picture of what I usually make. I still haven't finished the S-3 Viking yet, but yes, it is decked out in UN SPACY markings like in Macross Zero. All my others are still boxed up, haven't finished unpacking yet.

Thats true, where is Max's VF-1S?? We need one YAMATO !!!!!

Actually Mac Zero has huge loose ends, and the loose end in SDFM was created by FB2012... If FB would not have been made for the sake of the fans, the story of SDFM would have ended at the finale of the series...

Now this is a Great comment Zinjo, Seriously it is.

And as well i will probably catch major hell for this comment, but here goes... One No more talk of Star Trek ok, this is about Macross. And two if you are like me, You grew up with Robotech and the 1984 Macross movie. In 1984 my brothers friend came back from Japan with a copy of DYRL, 6 months later Robotech released. the rest has been history. Now why do I bring up Robotech on a macross forum, simple. At the end of the Robotech New Generation, Scott Bernard flies off to find Admiral Rick Hunter (Hikaru Ichijo). But that was it, left you hanging for some 20 years. Just like Flashback 2012 did.

But now there is the Robotech Shadow Chronicles that is starting to answer alot of questions. And no offense as I am a bigger Macross fan than Robotech. But you do not hear Robotech fans complaining about the old characters coming back. In fact more movies are on the way and their Fan base has never been bigger. (whether you agree with their taste or Not)

I did not add this posting to say that all of Macross series are not good, or that only the Original series should be viewed or that the direction macross is bad. Just that it would be great to have One good real/serious movie, a 6 part OVA. about the Megaroad 01 fleet and what happened to them. Just some simple answers, a good story, adventures and probably a box of tissues at the end.... What the hell is wrong with that!? I like good story telling, Not bogus clues or subtle hints or a never ending mystery. Its been 20 years of questioning, So lets get Sherlock Holmes on this and solve it.

And if Macross Frontier is going to deal with all of this, and answer some questions. Then its a happy time for us all!!

Now for those of you only know Macross because of the toys or seeing 5 minutes of Macross Plus or something, and want to rip me a new one for this, Feel free. I just know that I have been supporting Macross since 1984 and only want to see the best for it.

Why are you guys still asking for the VF-2SS. Macross II valks are the uggliest valks ever!

The VF-2SS is an Awesome design and is one of the best out there, You just don't like it because Kawamori didn't design it.

Sorry but their are worse designs out there. The SV-51 is awesome as a fighter, but leaves much to be desired as a Battroid. Also Macross 7. I don't seem to hear anyone demanding Valkyries from that series.

How can you say this fighter pictured below is ugly????

But thats just my thought. Macross fan 1985-Present.

VF-4 LIGHTNING III !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VF-2SS !!!!!!!!!!!!

SDF-1 (LARGER SIZE than WAVE's version) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VF-0D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ZENTRADI BATTLE PODS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Done!!!!!!!

Will there ever, ever, ever be a Macross series where we see Hikaru and Misa again with the Megaroad/Frontier Fleet?

I know that Shoji Kawamori and has made sure never to bring them back, But with the constant change in character designs for macross, is it possible for a new company to buy up some copyrights and make a new series?

I know their is the new Macross Frontier series coming up, But I have to tell you the truth, I am a little worried already its gonna be a disappointment, But I have been wrong before... Hopefully I am wrong on this judgment.

What do you all think, should we have a planned series, Just one Big movie where the Hikaru, Misa, Minmei and the VF-4 are all seen again?

To all frontiers, lets hear what you think!!

Well heres some food for thought, If Yamato is a NO go for ever making these Fighters a reality. What other company out there could possibly pull it off. I would suggest Bandai but they seem to be more Model kits than anything. Their Macross 7 Valkyries are not much to behold... Fun to own, but only so-so. The Old school VF-1's are still the classic and my personal favorites.

I have the new WAVE 1/5000 SDF-1 Macross. I like it and its very well built, Maybe they (WAVE) ought to take a swing at the VF-4 & VF-2SS Valk's.? Also who is the company making the new MOSPEADA toys...maybe them?

What do you guys think? What say you Graham, How do we get the word out?

To answer you Ratchet, First Yamato put out the Original 1/60 Diecast VF-1 Valkyries, (Which I have almost all of those, Love the VT-1 and VE-1) Then they knocked us out with the larger 1/48 scale. (I only have a few of those...$$$$)

But for what ever reason when Yamato released the Macross Zero line of Toys, they were resized as 1/60 scale. But are the same size basically of the 1/48 scale.

So when you read everyone saying I'll take it in 1:60, Just think the 1/48 scale Valkyries.

I personally love the MACROSS DYRL SDF-1. But if WAVE does anymore projects. I hope to see a Larger TV version.

Don't be so sure my friends, How many times have we heard, Never, NO , don't think so, Not gonna happen.... the squeaky wheel gets the oil and if companies want to stay in business, they will answer to their base if they want to keep making money. Look at Wave and their new SDF-1, They said that was it. No more.... Ummm, Now they have a newer version coming out, Why because people asked for it. Besides, you think that Shoji Kawamori wouldn't mind a few extra bucks in his pocket. He's gotta get some royalties for all this stuff. After all he designed them. Well except for the Macross II Valk's.

When you roll over and accept instant defeat, you never get what you want.

Hey Pioneers, Just wondering...again. Do you all think if we bug Yamato enough they would consider making the VF-4 Lightning III (Flashback 2012) and the VF-2SS (Macross II) in new the 1/60 scale size. Variable in all 3 modes. I only have the VF-2SS in the Bandai model kit and it is an amazing Valkyrie design, probably one of my favorites. and the VF-4 only in drawings. Though the VF-4 Lightning III is only seen for a few minutes on the screen, it is such an under appreciated design that needs to come to life!!!!

I guess my point is this, If Yamato is bothering to make both Stealth, Woodland camo and 25th Anniversary Valk's, then why not make 2 Valkyries that actually exist in the macross time line and make us fans happy. Even though Macross II was not the best of series and most prefer to trash it based on the story, the Valkyrie designs were awesome. The VF-2JA was a really good mecha design too.

I guess only time will tell as well your opinions.

Dear MACROSS. HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!! Lets hope we can celebrate for another 25 years!!!

Well It looks like my posting definitely reached quite a few macross fans out there. Looks like everyone has their views as far as "well it wasn't my favorite, so what ever..." To more of my view point which is "lets go back and rework this puppy to its full potential" Either way Macross Zero as a whole is a good series, Could be better though. But lets face it, Anime in Japan is what Hollywood Movie making is here in the USA. When your funding gets dropped or cut, you make do with what you have. I always wondered why it was only 5 episodes long.

I just hope this new Macross series coming up is well funded, well written and a clear ending. So what ever your opinion is, Your entitled to it and please share it. We can only hope that MACROSS is here to stay for a very long time to come.

P.S. Haruhiko Mikimoto is still the best character designer out there, Hopefully Shoji K. and Him will patch things up and go to work again in the macross world.

Hi everyone, Just wondering if anyone else out there feels like I do, Some what lost after watching Macross Zero. Though the animation and action sequences are amazing and even the music is pretty good. I just felt the story was very rushed and like X-files, way to many questions left unanswered.

the same way that they took Macross Plus and made new footage, extra dialog for it to tie up the loose ends. I feel that they should take a swing and do the same for Macross Zero. And no more reusing or repeating the same scenes to save time. Would be nice to get a better background on Shin, Roy, A better view of the Macross when it crashed. Lets meets the newly formed UN Spacy and Anti-UN forces. Was that the same City-Ship under the sea as we saw in DYRL ??

I don't mean to ramble. But it would just be such a great piece of Anime with such potential, to be completed. Make it a full and satisfying Film, not something that got rushed into production. And yes, how about a recap ending, instead of just Shin flying off into the sunset. What happens to Roy afterwards (Yes I know the TV series and DYRL) Show the Anti UN surrender, Explain why the VF-0 Phoenix was replaced, What happens Mao. you know, start a story and end it.

Let be honest, enough requests and interest. Big West, Bandai and Yamato will see the $$$ signs.

What do you guys & gals think?