Aegis!

This topic is incredibly interesting although it´s awfully off-topic.

I still don´t understand the relationship between the F-14 being outdated and the VF-1 over production

Anyway , in regards to the VF-1 , even though most of us wanted this kind of quality toys for YEARS I still think the VF-1 is being prioritized over other valkyries while we could have plenty of variety , I mean , Macross isn´t just about the VF-1 , otherwise the sequels would be worthless and the franchise would be officially dead by now.

Not only Mao, Nora also mentionned it as being the AFOS head's !!! I am certain this thing is AFOS's head and I am more than certain that something BAD is going to happen to Mao thanks to the stupidity of the guys ontha Aska giving her the AFOS's blood!

It would be pretty damn cheap if Kawamori went with the ¨little girl goes bersek - controls giant mecha - protagonist/lover has to save the world and decide between sisters¨ crappy plot. If anything Mao´s blood transplant will only wake up the APHOs and it´ll try to defend the island , but I seriously doubt Mao will have any control over the damn thing.

Well even though I have 5 of them, I was thinking of getting 12 of them for a squadron. Not that I am complaining but all I gotta say is WOW

FIVE ? damn , no wonder there´re no Low vis left for us mere mortals

GIVE THEM TO MEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!!!

Joking

By all means you should keep them (except for that Low vis you suddenly want to sell to me ....sorry <_< ). This toys not only deserve the money you spent on them , they deserve your love cause at some point of your life , this babies have and will fill your heart with joy , not for you , but for the little kid inside of you that wanted these toys so much.

Remember , these toys are great , look a them , think of all the happy times you had with them.

All of them should stay in your life till you die ....except maybe for that filthy looking low vis you so eagerly want to sell

5) Lots of wing flapping by the SV-51s in battroid mode in this episode. What's the purpose? I don't think it can be to create additional lift. I know we discussed this before, but I forget what the consensus was.

The wing flapping. I think this is less a technical detail and more a stylistic one, making the SV's seem more bird like in their motions, thus emphasizing their link to the technology of these so called bird men.

Has it been established that these bird people(have they been given an official name? or are they still just the bird people?) and the zentradi are different? I tend to think they are. The SV being derived from these so called bird people technology, and the VF-0 from Zentradi tech. Remember from episode 2, how nora called the VF-0 a rip off of their design, but Ivanov said that sources pointed to it's design not being derived from the SV.

I think the flapping is for directing the air thrust from the fans on the back of the Battroid , that and the fact that the SV is able to fold it wings on its back.

The Variable fighter design (both of the Anti-UN and UN) originates from the overtechnology found on the ASS-1 (supervision army NOT exclusively Zentradi), the nations that formed the Anti-UN made their VF design for combat against other VFs from the begining so I´d assume the Anti-UN started their VF development before the UN once the UN proposed to build VFs but the UN didn´t manage to deploy their mass production VF in time for combat against the SVs.

They should have had at least 2 VF-0 in the air at all times. Neither where there any 'ready' VF-0 on deck for immediate launch.

The did have some VF-0s ready for launch after the Ghosts went into the sky (I think they´ll appear in the next Ep).

I'm beginning to get convinced that Mao and Sara are not really humans, but rather real Protoculture people. Prolly the last and only direct descendants of the colonization-group that visited the earth.

I'm beginning to suspect Mao as the one who will be fusing/controlling the completed AFOS. A very angry Mao bent on revenge since she does have feelings for Shin.

Kinda like an updated take on the Plus' theme of Myung and Sharon Apple.

Of course they´re humans , that´s what the protoculture came to develop on earth, humanoids. If the island remained isolated for hundreds if not thousands of years it would be pretty damn diffucult/impossible that the other islanders do not feature the same kind of genes. The only reason that the Sisters are the main focus of all this genetic mystery is because they´re the protagonists of the story and they made contact with Shin first , otherwise you would see someone else being the focus of the scientist´s investigation.

Stop assuming Mao had something to do with the AFOS´s reaction , that was due to Sara´s reaction to Shin and Mao´s kissing. Mao didn´t have anything to do with the AFOS glowing hence she doesn´t have any psychic conection with it. Sara was only able to connect with the AFOS because she was at fountain which seems to be part of the protoculture ruins (overtechnology -- AFOS ).

I finnally understand what the hell the islanders mean by ¨Kadun¨ , it´s simply ¨artifacts¨ , the guns and the APHOS itself are mentioned as Kaduns but they´re realted to different concepts i.e. guns are Kaduns of fire.

From what I've gathered, "Kadun" is basically their word for Demon. Sara's always talking about them as though they're supernatural things that can be invoked by curses and such.

yeah , I thought that too until I saw Ep.3.

Sara commonly uses this term for ¨evil¨ things or ¨spirits¨ but all of the things she refers to as Kaduns are artifacts (Radio, guns , AFOS). Look closely when she talks about kaduns in Ep.3

Ok , just finished watchiong Ep.3.

One word : AWESOME!

This is What I gathered from the fansub:

The shrine/fountain where Sara conducts the ritual for the bird-people is some kind of receptor that chanels energy for some unknown purpose as seen when the rocks with markings start to float (probably is what made the protoculture ship/turtle shell/Mayan island levitate as well ) notice the other normal rocks do not float at all , just the ones with markings , this stops happening when Sara looses her concentration (she herself is surprised of this spectacle ) and the central rock with the big mark stops ¨shinning¨.

Mao is in no way psychic ,in fact , the APHOS raction (glowing) is not directly related to either Shin or Mao´s presence (the ead just looks at them) , the APHOS´s head is obviously connected to the fountain and reacted to Sara´s emotion when she ¨sees¨ Mao and Shin kissing.

One other thing , I don´t think Mao will really have a role in the love traingle , I know everyone thinks she will because of the kiss and she certainly was exited about it but that wasn´t the reason she kissed him at all , she gave Shin some air so he could breath after losing his breath when looking at the APHOS reaction.

The scene when Sara remembers Aries/Roy mentor extracting a blood sample was quite intriguing , knowing that the proffesor had already been in Mayan and he developed the Protoculture theory (that resulted to be true) I wonder what happend to him afterwards and what he really discovered , also , how much of this does Roy know ? If anything , this chapter really leaves some good questions about the past.

I wasn´t expecting the APHOs head to be independent from its body and seeing it move underwater , worse yet I really wasn´t expecting the Anti-UN to find it or know of its existence. I mean , if it could move wherever it wanted why didn´t the APHOS re-connect to its body ? was it hiding from something ? Zentradis/supervision army maybe ?

I finnally understand what the hell the islanders mean by ¨Kadun¨ , it´s simply ¨artifacts¨ , the guns and the APHOS itself are mentioned as Kaduns but they´re realted to different concepts i.e. guns are Kaduns of fire.

I think that the APHOS is directly related to the evolutionary alteration on humans , all images of the bird people greatly resemble the APHOS , and both sisters refer to it as the ¨bird-man¨meaning it was part of a bigger group , such group is mentioned to be the responsible for the alterations of human evolution , so the APHOS is either a protoculture being or its and artifact used by the protoculture (as in: Zentrans for combat - APHOS for colonisation ).

The for those still wondering about the mechas attacking the shores of Mayan , they were Anti-UN amphibian Destroids not protoculture mechas or anything remotedly stupid like that.

The entrace of DD´s SV into the Asuka was simply spectacular as well as Roy´s , it was a shame he didn´t last as long as wewanted with the GBP-0. Yamato just ought to make a toy of this mechas.

At last Shin is in control of his VF , at least he learned something by himslef by looking at the flying fish. something really interesting was that part where Edgard tells Shin that the Zero was initially designed for limited space use so they coud also go underwater.

Just one little question that bothered me at the end :

Just how the heck did Nora get in the Destroid and who was shooting Shin in the jungle ? there weren´t any soldiers around as far as I know...I hope this time Edgar dies for good

Definitively neat.

the water surface mode looks really similar to the Neo Glaug and the four-legged mode is just too cool.

I suppose the AC commentaries will always pop out , but people have to realise M0 is a 2002 production and its designs are being made by the same guy who made AC designs a couple of years before M0 , how could he possibly change his style from when he made AC in such a short time if he hasn´t changed that much in 20 years ?

I´m amazed at the marvelous designs he´s made for M0 and I sincerely hope Yamato gets the license for M0 toys cause I´m eager to have some of these mechas

has anyone had any problem playing the fansub ? I´m getting a green screen with interfierence when I play it with DivX but when I play it in BSplayer there´s no problem with the video , only thing is the frame rate sucks and the subs are delayed by something like 6-7 secs <_<

damn , why does it have to happen to me now ...

damn , I´m getting a crappy conection , how do I go about for fixing this firewall thingy ? what should I do to get a better conection (I´m using the experimental version and I´m getting the yellow light ) ?

Thanks in advance ,

Ageis

Wow , I didn´t expect Kawamori to come up with such a beautiful design for an unmaned fighter , this beauty looks very very stylish and retro looking as well , very up-to-date (I said retro in regards to the time in which it´s tested in M0 but modern looking for 2003 standards) if I may say so.

dnload = 8 to 20 kbps

upload = 40 kbps

Still got 5 h to go on this and it's 1/4 done

you lucky .....

I´m still getting a crappy DL rate. hope it gets better later

damn , I´m getting 0 kB/s, WTH is going on ?

Edit: mate , I´m barely getting 5 kb/s and I´m on broadband , in contrast I´m uploading 15 kb/s , what can I do ?

Cool. Thanks F360, I'll Google it, and Aegis!, just Google it, I found it and got it in a flash.

problem is , I already have the AC3 filters (latest version) installed and I still get no audio

I´m still getting no sound (static noise only) and I already have the AC3 filters

Am I doing something wrong ?

Mmmmmm...I have a small problem here , I have the AC3 filtres but I´m getting no sound , just some static noise , I´m just using my PC speakers but I have no idea how to configure the AC3 filters.

What can I do ?

mmmmmmm...just 24 hours since it was released and they made a bootleg ? damn that´s quick , I wonder how good the quality is

I´ll possibly watch ep.3 first and then the other 2 when I´m finished with all the drooling

..................................................................................................OH mommy!!!.......I think I´m gonna faint ....

I´m speechless ....it´s so ....it´s....man it´s.....WOAH!

Missile Launching Destroid variant = Awesome

GBP= SWEEEEEEEEEET

APHOS = looks great , I just wonder where all this is going

I noticed that the SV-51 seems to have some sort of armour as well (look at the torso). Pretty neat IMO.

Just another comment : EAT YOUR FREAKING FINS NEMO !!!...ahem...I just liked the underwater scenes with the APHOS

This must be the PS2 Macross game book , the cover looks very nice but being based on the game I suppose it only contains tips and strategies about the game itself , so I don´t know how collectable it will become.

Very nice work indeed

Wonder if anyone is willing to make some VF-5000 for us fans

I personally don´t care what camouflage colour scheme they use as long as it´s decent and believable.

What attracted me to the Low-vis (long after it dissapeared from shops ) was the cool looking pilot and the lack of canon colour scheme , so if they re-release the LV I plead Yamato to make the same (or improved) pilot figure.

Here's a question I hope is not too far off topic: Being as today was Black Friday, I went and got me a DVD burner.

Which M Zero fansubs do I want to get to burn to DVD?

Mostly ANBU-AONE fasubs , they´re the best fansubs so far (that I know of )

Hey Graham have you recieved your copy already ?

Any comments ?

I totally agree with this. We fricking need more Low-viz. It´s a shame they only released a few of them , it deserves better.

I would happily buy one if they were available but right now that´s impossible