Phalanx

I don't know Gaijin. It was just a mistake I made. Like I said, I just thought it was nerdy because we're learning something. A vast majority of the shows on their are educational and informal, but then again there's nothing wrong with learning something new.

I decided to start this topic when I was just taking a quick gander at a pic my favorite valk, the VF-2SS and I must confess, I really not fond of it's appearance in gerwalk mode, so this makes me wonder, do any of you guys really like the gerwalk modes of your favorite valks? I just a little anxious to know

Good point Graham. I just thought that it might be a little dorky because we are learning something which is nerdy(little redundant) but then again some of us including me are nerds. It's also worth noting and admiting that most of my knowledge on airplanes and helicopter come from the information on the shiw. Thanx for pointing that out

Hey guys, I just finished watching military aviation programming on the Military channel on digital cable; so this makes me wonder, do you guys watch it too? I only watch it if there's something about jets or helicopters but most of the time I don't watch it unless there's anything good on. I'm just curious

Hey guys, I was wondering this good quick question about the F-14 Tomcat. I don't know if somebody discussed this earlier but I wanted to know is possible for one perosn to fly the F-14 by himself? Can somebody please fill me in on this?

Thanks Knight 26. Youre right. paint takes too much time. I actually drew the faces of the characters back in November 2004 and decided to add my redsigned VF-1 as part of the drawings. I used to have more drawings of the characters that I was working back during summer of 2004 but they got destroyed when my dad's laptop I was doing the drawings in got infected with virus and he couldn't save my pictures. Damn I miss my old drawings

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Hey guys check out my character drawings from Macorss. Hope you like them P.S for all you guys still anxious to see my personal redesign of the VF-1, I'm finished with them, but I don't have a scanner to get my picture on to my computer so be patient O.K

Hey guys, you wanna see something that will blow your mind? I don't know you guys have mentioned this on the thread since there's too many pages to check but scope these pics out of the Chinese J-14 stealth fighter. I also don't know for sure if this fighter is real but if it is, China might be the second country to master stealth technology. http://bbsimages.military.china.com/1011/2005/11/16/820.jpg http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachmen...chmentid=104035 http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7241/hoax5ng.jpg http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread119514/pg1 http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50527 However, it does look like a stealthy version of the MIG-1.44

This VF is so sexy, and sleek. Anybody who thinks it's ugly needs a reality check. This fighter has an absolutley high fear factor which means that it looks as if it can kick some serious booty. The VF-2JA IMO, looks slightly boxy in Battroid mode but other than that, I like it as well. Also white drew carey, I agree with you saying that the Metal Siren is ugly. It has long and pointy nose and big ugly wings. IMO, it looks like a pointy dick with wings and jet engines and the head is the little ball sac riding along with the fighter.LOL

Yo Shin, have you played Jetfighter V and Jetfighter 2015 for the PC?

Well, since the VF-2SS Space Valkyrie 2 is my favorite VF, I don't mind living in the time period of M2 cause I get to pilot my favorite valkyrie.

OK, well then I'll continue working on them and hopefully you guys as well as others in the fanworks section will have alot of nice things to say about it.

Oh I see. If that's the case, when I start my own aerospace business, I'm gonna start taking designs of my favorite Russian aircraft and make my own under a new name. LOL

Well Extra Large Mumma, it was both of those things because he wasn't involved in the production of Macross 2 as it was also made without his consent. I don't mind buying a dozen of them if they're still out there, and start painting them in my own paint schemes just like that's popular among the VF-1. I really wish that Yamato would make a transformable toy line of the M2 valks.

Nice drawings as well White Drew Carey, you got some talent

Hey guys I have a question that some of you might not considered and I'm not sure if somebody already asked this question earlier in the thread because I didn't look through all those pages but since the Tu-160 Blackjack looks like the American B-1B Lancer, how come Rockwell didn't sue Tupolev Design Bureau o copyright infringement in terms of the design? That really was an enigma to me?

Yep guys, you guys have proved your points and I have regrets for ever even starting this topic. I was thinking far too selfishly about the expectations of a redesign. Now I feel DUMB (yes I just carried myself and I really don't care) I would like to thank all you guys , everylast one of you, for showing me the light when it comes to all of SK's VF-1 designs. I also learned a very valuable lesson from this thread and that is to never think selfishly for your demands and expectations of things like I did because it leads to confusing questions like the one you see on this thread. Peace out P.S. I take it that none of you are no longer interested in seeing my personal redesigns of the VF-1?

Sure you guys would think that I'm insulting SK's judgement of beautiful and ugly when it comes to the VF-1 and VF-0's design but seriously when you look at it these designs they do tend to look a little ugly on the overall. I know it and the whole world knows it. It just looks downright ugly. I mean why would SK design such a VF run-of-the mill looking fighter with out bothering to update its appearance to make it look more modern. I mean, if hypothetically, SK's VF-19 and VF-22 valks just so happened to look like crappy in terms of having an extremely outdated look to it in M+ and M7, wouldn't you think he has an unusual sense of style with his designs? Because this is the same type of discussion that I had with my other topic on the realtionship between American and Japanese SCI-FI ships, where I said that SCI-FI ships from American works tend to look "whack" compared to the ones that Japanese people make in their games. I already know that SK isn't American but his sense of style of with the VF-1 is on par with what I said in my other topic. But back to the topic at hand, When I looked back at the head of the VF-1SOL S, I realized that it look far too futuristic for standards but I realized that there was a perfect modernization of the VF-1's head all along and it was the VF-1AR, VF-1JR, VF-1SR from Macross 2036. That is a good example of what the redesigned VF-1 heads should look like. But, as far as the body for it goes for fighter mode and battroid mode, it still is alittle difficult to explain.

Yep Rocket Punch, you could pretty much say that but I'm that type of guy that likes things to look perfect. But when it comes to that VF-1SOL S battloid pic I snagged, you guys insisted that the VF-0 looks very close to the VF-1SOL and although it looks very close tthe VF-0's battloid mode, it still looks ugly to me in Fighter mode because the wings are longer than half of the main body and the wings are designed ugly. IMO, The VF-0D looks better than the VF-0 because it's clipped dog tooth delta wings make look better. But to go more into details on what makes the VF-0 ugly, it would be that the VF-0's nose is a little bulky IMO, despite the fact that SK said that the VF-0'S nose based ofF of the VF-19' and the wings like I said earlier, look ugly. So, heres the rundown for your understanding of my redesign of the VF-1: 90% understanding- Phalanx wants an Unofficial updated redesign of the VF-1 for model kit work as long as it doesn't replace the original official one. 10% misunderstanding-What or How exactly does Phalanx want it to look like.

I guess you're right UN MARINE. After all, it was the only example I could think of at the moment. I know that you and the others think that the original VF-1 Iis perfect and It's all good , but from my POV it's only 75% perfect in terms of it's capabiliteis. The other 25% comes from my personal redesign as it's body is more modern. It'll be 100% perfect to me with it's sleek, modern design and it's capabilities. But if you insist that perfect things don't need to be tampered with, I agree. In terms of all the other VF designs, They're absolutely perfect with sleek desgins and capabilities. Hope I didn't confuse you with this and I think I'll check that page out BTW for those VF paint schemes

Well IMO I believe that the japanese have a sense of style and creativity when it comes to their designs of space craft. But I also believe that some of their space ship designs in video games and anime are influenced by jet planes designs. Like the Vic Viper ship from Gradius; it just so happens to look like a jet than a spaceship IMO.

No macplus, I didn't draw any gundam realted pictures. Second everybody, My fault for saying that this is my thread, it belongs to the community. OK Sundown, IMHO the VF-0 still doesn't look much like a redesign of the VF-1 because in the fighter mode of the VF-0, it looks ugly. It looks like a even more crappy version of the VF-1 just larger. If I draw more pictures of my "redesigned" VF-1, in which I'm currently working on right now but I don't have a scanner just yet. So it'll be a while before my drawings show up on the thread. But you guys can hold out till then, can ya? I know it's still a little confusing to all of you but the pictures will hopefully clear up any confusion you have. In addition to that Sundown, I'm not saying that the original VF-1 should be replaced by the redesign. I don't mind the original official one staying since a vast majority of you guys are still very fond of it. I just want the unofficial redesign for modeling purposes. However, it's best if you compared the VF-1S is to the VF-0S, where the VF-0S has two head laser while the VF-1S has 4 head lasers. Not close, in terms of head details but if you notice the similarities between the standard VF-1S and the VF-1S SOL (refer to that screenshot several pages back), the battroid mode for the VF-1S SOL retains that wide U-shaped black and yellow stripe along it's chest plate like the original does. The VF-0S does not. See what I'm saying.

I apologize JB0 for overreacting out sheer anger and misunderstandings. But are you saying that the forum Admins are actually leaving my topic open due to teh fact that they found it interesting yet controversial because I think you maybe right. I wanted to this close this thread earlier but I think they left it open because they still want to hear other people opinion's. Also Rocket Punch, you do have to forgive me for having my arguments circular because this is my first time in a message board debating on issues. I've visited message boards across the internet with different topics but wasn't interested in giving my opinions. I don't have alot of experience in debating on issues in forums since this my first time to actually be a part of a thread but I hope that my arguments become more clear to you.

After a 5 hour hiatus from my thread I have decided to leave it open forever so that anybody can get all of their points out. I failed miserabley to get others to feel convinced that a UNOFFICIAL, very close in all details and design of the VF-1 for modeling purposes is what I wanted. It looks like everybody is still bashing on me for ever bringing up this topic of mine but that made me ask, how many of you like this controversial discussion and how many of you didn't? Also Noriko, what's an MGREXX? Second thanx Low Viz Lurker for making me feel good about myself where you said I was persistent not stupid. I was just mad at JB0 for calling me stupid, not because nobody else agreed with me. Funny because nobody still agrees with me after all these pages of posts; not even one person. But I'm still back in the game like a GI JOE( punchline from Mario's-you got what I need song). I feel that some of you are anxious to hear a response from me so I'm ready to keep on continuing my thread.