KingNor

i think another problem people have with the seemingly "advanced" stuff on the prototypes is how out of sync it is with the way real prototypes are made. i mean, when i see early f-14 prototypes, they didn't have tons of equptment for them, they're swing wings barely worked, and they didn't have vastly diffrent crap on them like tail gunners, or bunches of extra fins or swing wings that went all the way to be like forward swept wings. they basicly looked like crappy f-14s. so why the bizzare stuff on the proto valks and monsters? it would make sence if the original monster had arms something like the "gladiator/spartin" thing, that was later scrapped when they saw how limited the monster was in hand to hand. or what if instead of hands at all, it had tripod like extra legs something like what earth movers have and it simply planted them. then the designers realized the monster was stable enough on its own and added more guns. the claws show offer no reason for the change, it apparently has these big arms that seem to work good, why'd they take them off for the final version? and the vf-0... how is it it can carry an entire drone on its back when the "super valk" needed huge boosters to help it carry the little bit of extra armor it had. stuff like that just makes the serise stand way out of chronology. monsters were probably devouring too many of the expencive valkyries so they took the arms off to make the valks harder to catch maybe?

problem with the whole the big clown hands serve a functional purpose is that using the big clown hands means you can't use the arm guns... not very practical or utilitarian.... would make more sense to give the thing a whole other set of arms and grappling mechanisms if the designers were so concerned with having that thing have to hold on to something to fire. but then, let's also think about that idea as well... just because this thing has hands doesn't mean it can just hang on anywhere... it has to hang onto areas that are reinforced to accept the kinetic energy of having this thing pulling on it... which means, some cables would do the job just as well. But then what if the carrier was designed so that the monster could hold on to anything? same thing, some cables would work just as well. And, cables would allow the monster to fire its arm cannons at the same time. Second point about it just being a cartoon.. well sure... but even in a cartoon, to be believable, everything uses a certain logic. In the macross universe, the powers that be went to great lenghts to establish that design elements in macross exist for a reason and not just at the designer's pleasure. So valk's don't dress up like giant fish to fight in the ocean, destroids don't turn into giant motorcycle propeled dogs, etc. So when a big piece of military artillery suddenly has big fugly clown hands to grab hold of stuff.. it just smacks of silly. I personally don't think it makes sense, from a tactical standpoint... it's fugly, as it disrupts the balance of the design and is suddenly intricate and complicated on a design that is straightforward and direct. yes. exactly yes. everyone should read this post and remember it.

i dont' think i've ever actualy seen the monster walk around. it's always rolling on it's rollers.

i really really get pissed at thiese comments... nessessity is the mother of invention, the military NEEDED transforming planes, so it makes sence that the resorces went into the valkyries to FORCE them to work. the valkyries are a very well thought out design that fill a plot driven purpose, stuff like the claws on the MONSTER1 and the "less" advanced valks pulling more advanced manuvers is simple gawdy showyness to make the show "cool" and have no clear cut reason to be there. no amount of tie down straps would make a plane viable for hand to hand combat. given anime magic it makes sence to have transforming valks. there are a dozen things that make more sence than big robotic claws to help brace the monster: straps were mentioned, recoiling barrols would work, simply designing the center of gravity so the thing could fire properly, built in tripod legs (much simpler). i'm confident the only reason the monster has claws was so it would look neat, and then someone thought up.."i guess it could use them to brace itself" wow.. i went on a tirade.. back to sleep for me.. ZZzzzz

please tell me english isn't your first language. that said i'm a tad confused by what you're asking.. are you looking for specific images?

i just think it's funny they bothered to put the other convertable in the box trax was in. i bet you could have it fingerprinted

what is more likely: all the prototypes ended up with seperate collectors who all happen to be stingy to the point of allowing no photos. or that most of these prototypes don't exist/never existed, or are lost/destroyed now.

i think you'd besupprised how much affect a producer can have on a movie. they're the money afterall.

HEY i'm a monster fan through and through, i just don't like the claws at all. i kinda put it up there with bayonettes on gunpods. btw nanashi don't get discouraged you're site rocks. its one thing to jam a knife into a goey human torso, it's another to stab a jet. the mecha in macross (with the exception of that "gladiator/spartain" whatever) have always been about shooting at other machines, even the valks primarily fire weapons at targets rather than punch them. what ev. i'm having alot of fun taking jabs at this claw-monster.

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! out of how many movies? blackhawk down was actually good. but even in that he coudn't resist his trademark crazy colored sequence. (the green night time fight) Jerry B is to movies what Crap is to Horses.

ha! ha ha ha! ha edit.. actually thats not a bad idea.

RAAAAAH *MUNCH MUNCH MUNCH*

you know, the original monster looks almost exactly like this but with diffrent "gun" arms. i guess un-spacey felt the same way most of us do, because later itterations of the monster had no hands. very bizzare to add something like this. is it ever even used in mac - zero?

you've already made "decent" wings man, don't sell yourself short.

I'm sure there are Purists someplace, but i don't think it will ever reach the level of the mac/robo rivalry since as far as i know the transformers are an original show. in stuff like macross and golion there is a clear cut original that was kind of... um... i don't want to say "raped".. lets say, re-edited(a streach i know) into a new show. nothing will ever beat the 1/55 valk, it was a powerhouse of being released under diffrent names: valkyrie, veritech and jetfire, all before i was ten.

More than Akira or DBZ? Shows can be good and over-rated at the same time. Look at Naruto. i think NGE is too open for interpetation to be "rated" at all. i dont' tell people it's good, i tell them "i loved it." personally i think it's a good "break in" show for people looking to get into anime. it mocks/parodies alot of anime cliche's and offers ALOT to talk about. i've also found it to be more popular amongst people who don't usually like anime.

exactly how i see it.

what an idea. you guys can start by not going to these god awful movies. good luck finding an AvP or Catwoman ticket stub at my house. seriously, this whole "it looks like crap but i'll go see it cuz hally is hot/ because aliens and preds are cool/ because its akira" stuff needs to STOP right now! hollywood is ruining our cool stuff

screen grabs of the zendradi buggy?

what makes you think that date is inaccurate?

i don't remember that happening in the show. i used to love the turtles till i saw the comic it came from, then i thought the show was a disgrace.

this is so rad. I used to have a robotech rpg book and i just gobbled the pics up when i thumbed through it. ( could always tell which pics were from the original and which were added as supplements from a hired artist) anyway.. this thing always caught my eye. can't wait to see it fully built!

james bond jr was confuscing because he was JR but he called the real bond "uncle bond" because obviously james couldn't be married or have illigitimate kids. though honesly he must have dozens by now.

kidkorupt, solscud, i miss you guys. this is pretty funny stuff, that whatcha call it thing does look like it's macross influenced, especially the front. i'm a little baffled by its weird half transformation mode where it sits on it's control tower.

while i find white on black to be ugly as snot, it IS easyer on my eyes. as maddox said.. looking at a white screen is like staring at a lightbulb. a monitor ISN'T paper. i'm all for the light on dark look (it's just ugly) but i'm all for it.