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I'm running IE and it's purple.... 327916[/snapback] Same here. But I have a possible answer: Since links turn up blue and then when activated, purple in IE, I'm thinking this isn't so much a button as a hyperlink, a suspicion that was fulfilled when I rolled over it and found a HTTP address popup in my status bar. Also, once I posted this new message, all the boxes in the thread turned blue again. BTW, I like the new background color.

You have said the forbidden words that we cannot hear!

You have to remember, Dean, that everything in that article was made up by the MMD's author (whose name escapes me -- has he ever gotten back to updating that site?) to try to place the Strike Valk in the mainline Macross/RT universe. None if it is Macross canon or even RT canon (which is IMHO, an oxymoron ) In the Macross shows, they never dealt with the Factory Satellite after, really the two episodes it was in, due to the fact that it was more than anything a McGuffin.

I always thought (ducking the inevetable flying objects) that G'N'R was highly overrated. I've heard soem of their stuff during their heyday, and they weren't that hot, IMHO.

I listen to a lot of old school stuff: Elvis Costello, The Police, Devo, Blondie, the Sex Pistols, the Clash, the Germs, and so on. I also love classical and medieval music, oddly enough. For those who are in LA, I do listen to Indie 103.1 also, and love Jonesy's Jukebox.

Geecie, check Rightstuf.com. They MAY still have a few copies of the full-movie dub (under the name "Macross") on VHS. Also look at Amazon.com as well. the full dub did come out to the US for a couple of years before HG pulled their "800-pound gorilla" act.

IIRC, the word "partisan" I'd always believed came from the Partisans, pro-Communist resistance fighters in Yugoslavia during World War Two, although they probably did pick up the name from the weapon...

I always thoght it was one of three reasons: 1. Most likely: It was dubbed, like some anime films of that era, for trans-Pacific flights for ANA and JAL. Later, they decided the dub was good enough for a domestic Japanese video release. 2. About as Likely: Toho dubbed it in the hopes of an international release that never came about, thereby they sold it as an intersting gimmicky release to the Japanese market, from whence it found its way to the States as COT*gasp*B. 3. Less likely: It was commissioned as an English teaching tool. I guess they could have, but it sticks in my mind that Superspace Fortress was released to the general public, rather than as a school-specific release. Not to say that schools COULDN'T have snapped up some copies to use as English teaching aids...

Now is not that time? Well, that's whats been upsetting me. It's not 'BOTH' sides turning this into a political opportunity. Sorry, but sometimes one side is more out of line than the other. It's not the Repbulican side crying racism (over a **&@ Hurricane!) or calling for this official and that official to resign. There's flame wars all over MW, over toys or over Robotech or over 'this show is awseome'/'that show is lame' and 'you suck!'/'no you suck!' Even the mods dive right into these scraps. So no, I don't think we need to shut this thread down. MW isn't all sweetness and niceness these days, so be it. Incidentally, even though I lean right, I think Hannity is a rude Jackass. Hell, I have a laundry list of complaints with Pres. Bush(and he won't meet with me! ). Just because I have philosphical leaning doesn't mean I'm a two dimensional partisan robot. 327021[/snapback] I guess you're right about that one point that the Republicans have not been harping on the hurricane. On that misstatement I apologize. But my complaint was a bit broader. It seems that lately, we have had lib v. conservative flareups on a couple of threads where they were neither needed, appropriate, logical nor constructive. Those RT v. Macross or weekly A1 v. Kieth M7 battles are fun to watch. Not all flame wars have to be shot down. I'm not against flame wars in general. However, I've always been of the opinion that the two things guaranteed to start real fights are politics and religion. I do not want to see MW turn into the Battlezone thread of RT.com. And, frankly, I also believe that politics is simply too important to be handled in such a cavilier manner as "Bush = Palpatine" or "you liberal pussy." We are talking about the future of our nation, dammit, not Macross 7 v. Macross Plus here, and it deserves a decorum it has sorely lacked for at least my entire lifetime, if not longer. I for one am sick of some fat slob with a camera getting up there and comparing our president to Hitler, and then hearing some two-bit commentator say that Joe McCarthy was a great American hero. They add NOTHING to an already debased and debauched political atmosphere. And, finally, I never accused anyone personally of being, as you put it, a "partisan robot." What I said is that, as I mentioned before, that there have been some people who, out of convictions or just because they want to raise some hell, have turned a couple non-political threads (such as the James Doohan thread) into political cockfights.

Can someone shut this thread down now? Just like the James Doohan thread, it's become just another place for the republicrats and dempublicans to go tearing each other apart. And to think I come here to escape the fact that, yes, there are people who exist called Sean Hannity and Michael Moore who pollute the public discourse with naked, uncompromising, partisan ideological sniping... Especailly on something like what is going on right now in the South. Those idiots from both parties want to shift the blame for this so their own party looks good come November 2006 and Nov. 2008. Right now, that posturing is not going to feed PERSON ONE. It happened. They farted up the early stages on every level. Now, it;s time to forge ahead and get the South rebuilt. There'll be plenty of time for the Optimates and Populares to try to use this to their political advantage. NOW IS NOT THAT TIME.

Levees notwithstanding, they had no plan for such an event that would have forced the evacuation of the city. I saw an AP photo of school buses that were flooded out and unusable -- rather than hole people up in the Superdome who couldn't leave, why didn't they use those school buses to get them out before Katrina hit? Where was the New Orleans Police? After 9/11, the NYPD worked double and triple-time. After Katrina, over two hundred NOPD officers laid down their badges and said "screw this," leaving the city to the looters until the National Guard and other law-enforcemetn elements had to come in, and foud it so dangerous that some looters were to be shot on sight. (They had looted guns as well as other goods.) Now, I don't begrudge the people who were taking food, water and appropriate clothing (note the word apropriate), but it does raise an important question: Given the position that New Orleans is in, and given that they knew that someday there would be a catastrophic hurricane, where were the stockpiles of disaster supplies? Where was the water and MREs? Where were the public officials to distribute it in the Superdome and Convention Center? I really believe that, although the Federal and State governments do share in a measure in the culpability for how Katrina's aftermath played out, the bulk of the blame must be placed upon the governments of the Orleans Parish and the government of New Orleans, who were almost criminally negligent, In my opinion.

LOL! Where did that Sid Vicious action figure come from?

OK, and the punchline is?

Unless someone took the velcro off their box...

Hope all of your loved ones are safe, Neptune. I've been watching the coverage of the aftermath on the news, and all those people who compared it to the Christmas tsunami in Asia are spot on. Stay safe, and my prayers go out to you, and yours, and to the city of New Orleans in general. and JBO: They'll rebuild. New Orleans has had to survive events like this before. They've survived hurricanes, floods, two wars, and pirate raids.

Star Blazers/Yamato I wouldn't classify as a "r*ped" (please, people, can't we use another word, huh?) show, because it was mostly cut only for objectionable content (and some minor time cuts), did not have other shows grafted on to it, and Leiji Matsumoto, Yoshinobu Nishizaki and the other members of the Japanese creative team were properly credited. For me a (what you said) anime would be like Robotech or Voltron, which were a ployglot of stand-alone shows shoehorned into a unified whole, with cuts made for little reason other than to help shoehorn the plots together, and with little or no credit given to the original creators. And no, 1BRD, that doesn't mean every single person down to the two ramen dilveryboys has to be credited, but at least the major creative team, whithout whom the US polyglots wouldn't exist.

And the other heartening part about it is that they aren't claiming anything outside of the TV series, DYRL? and Flashback.

Sorry to add embers to this thread again, but it looks like there's a slight difference of opinion between Tatsunoko's US and Japanese sites as to whether Macross is considered a Tatsunoko show -- It's not listed in the catalogue of shows on the official Japanese webpage, but it IS on the US offical web page. On the US page, however, they are nice enough to credit Studio Nue with the creation of the series. Here's Tatsunoko USA's page on Macross.

That one's funny, but I think they can be partially let off the hook--"men" means "noodle" in Japanes--what's so funny?

It's nice to see Macross getting some lovin' on non Macross sites. The review on Modeling Madness

First off, welcome to MW, Snooze. There's no actual conclusion to the series in that vein, although the OAV Flashback 2012 does show the launch of Misa's ship the Megaroad. The Marraige was supposed to be, IIRC, included in the TV series, but they hit a budget wall and had to wrap it up with that open-ended ending. There was a movie, but it was DYRL, a retelling of the TV series' events. Macross Zero IS a prequel, and happens roughly 2-2 1/2 years before the TV series (around 2007, IIRC.) Anyway, I hope that answers your questions, and remember, the "Newbie" thread is always there if you need to ask any others. Don't worry, they won;t bite...much Have a good one.

A couple MORE Macross Myths: 1. MYTH: Bruno Global is Russian. SOURCE: Robotech, which I guess wanted to pull a "Mr. Chekov" on us. REALITY: He's actually Italian. 2. MYTH: Japanese is the official language of the Macross Universe. SOURCE: The fact that Japanese is spoken on screen by the main characters. REALITY: It seems that given the available evidence (signage, the letter to Minmay offering her an audition, the dialogue of background characters in DYRL?) that the official language spoken by the characters in the universe itself is English, and that Japanese was spoken as a convinience to the Japanese-speaking audience. 3. MYTH: Bodolzaa cannot/will not leave his fortress ship. SOURCE: The fact that he is almost always on board it, coupled with the big ol' head in a jar Bodolzaa from DYRL. REALITY: Bodolzaa can leave his ship (for instance, he did board Britai's ship to interrogate Hikaru, Misa and Hayao, refusing to let them on his own ship).

You're probably right, Az...I just remember it sticking in my mind about the cancer bit... BTW, I'd like to find out how Exedol thought he was going to preserve his mind by going from merely butt-fugly to amazingly @#$%ing butt-fugly... And one more Macross Myth: MYTH: Minmay was 30 in Flashback 2012. SOURCE: Fan speculation, based on a number of test drawings made by the production staff, which did include Minmay at 30. (Myth cited originally in Egan Loo's "FAQs and Fallacies on Macross Compendium) REALITY: Although originally Kawamori declined to put a specific date to the OAV, he later did admit that it was in 2012, making Minmay at the oldest 20.

Exedol's form was explained. When he macronized himself, he altered his structure with a greater emphasis on his mental capabilities. 320404[/snapback] Wasn't he also worried about ther micronization/macronization process directly affecting his brain and memories, and IIRC even concerned about getting brain cancer form the process?

You seen my avatar? You want naked pics? I actually have some I could send to you, just ask the guys an Anime Punch. I am SEXXXAY!! HAHAHAHAAAAAAA. 319947[/snapback] Please, please, put your shirt and pants back on...I'll take your word for it...