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Oh, Sweet zombie Jesus no. Most of the dub actors will come from ADV's stable, most likely...except for the actress who plays Minmay. She's apparently a Japanese singer of some note, Mari something or other... can't remember the last name for the life of me... As for "Upon the Shoulders of Giants" all I can think of is that what they mean is the Protoculture civilization that helped build the ASS-1/Macross in the first place are the "giants" (scientific, that is) whose shoulders the Overtechnology is built upon.

It is the same. I'll shut up now.

We (meaning me, as I shamefully got this megillah rolling by invoking the name) are that bad.

We're not angry, we're passionate, like all MacrossWorlders!

Bitching (respectfully) is the preferred route, but it may not do any good, depending on whether or not ADV/HG has access to Mikimoto's artwork.

I (gladly ) stand corrected on the artbox, then.

On Amazon.com, they have the artwork up for the first Macross DVD from ADV. It looks nice, but *DANGER, WILL ROBINSON* they didn't use Haruhiko Mikimoto's art for the DVDs, insteadt opting for what looks like *sigh* Tommy Yune, yet again. I'm still looking forward to it, but Sweet Evil Jesus, couldn't they have gone with some original Macross art? And while I don't mind the cover logo, they had best not change the title logo on the show. I say again to ADV -- do unto Macross like you did unto Gatchaman. Anyway, here are the pics:

We have a name and release date for the first disc: "Macross vol. 1: Upon the Shoulders of Giants". Interesting, and somewhat fitting, I guess... Release date, Jan. 10.

Things aren't always that easy, Skullsixx. Like it or not, businesses are very rarely intrested purely and solely in benefitting the fans. Their main concern is making a living/profit. If anime companies were interested in serving the fans' needs, for instance, Funimation would have looked the other way on grey-market imports from Kinokuniya of the FMA soundtrack, or 4Kids would have released an uncut One Piece. The fans' concerns are important (they thouroghly reject them at the company's peril) but cannot be paramount. A good in-depth example of this is the KITE controversy. For years, fans (I am not one) had clamored for an uncut version of the OAV. The problem was that Media Blasters felt they could not provide one because of a scene where one character is raping a young girl. This in my opinion, was a sensible and even applaudable decision. Under the law at the time, such depictions were legally perilous, and would have cost at the very least, millions in legal fees to Media Blasters to defend against obscenity charges at every level (Fed, state, city). At worst, it would have been the end of the company and a black eye to all anime distributors and the hobby in general. In that situation, they COULDN'T cater to the fans' desire, because it was potential fiscal suicide. As with the HG controversy, OTOH, I'm mellowing a bit to them. Only a bit, though. They seem to be no longer denying the very existence of Macross, Mospeada and Southern Cross and are not shoving Robotech only down our throats. I want my Yammies, and I can have them (paying through the nose, though), and I can see DYRL (although not on a R1 release yet or any time in the concievable future ). I still have issues with their business practices, but as long as we don't have RT.com lurkers coming over here and fighting to keep Robotech from somehow disappearing in favor of the original three shows, and so long as they don't try another round of C&D letters, I'm content now to conclude a truce with them.

That's gotta be a joke... Looks like the main robot from Metropolis.

I did. Arigato gozaimashita

My thoughts exactly! Is there no originality left in Hollywood??? Off the top of my head I can think of the following recycled titles... King Kong The Fog Cheaper by the Dozen Godzilla The Longest Yard The Amityville Horror The Bad News Bears Ocean's Eleven Night of the Living Dead Day of the Dead Throw in some more, there are plenty for sure...about 90% are crap. 344195[/snapback] Casablanca (remade as a TV movie and also indirectly as the craptastic Barb Wire) Psycho Cabinet of Dr. Cagliari Yojimbo (as "A Fistful of Dollars -- not bad, but a remake) Seven Samurai (as "The Magnificent Seven") The Front Page (As "His Girl Friday" and "The Front Page") The Ten Commandments (remade by the same director, no less) Cape Fear The Man Who Knew Too Much (Remake is actually more famous than the original) The Evil Dead (as "Evil Dead II" ) To Be or Not to Be The Lion in Winter Mutiny on the Bounty All Quiet on the Western Front 1984 The Italian Job Ocean's Eleven Kelly's Heroes (as "Three Kings") The Parent Trap Freaky Friday The Hound of the Baskervilles Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde Double Indemnity The Thomas Crown Affair The Omega Man (to be remade in 2007) Little Shop of Horrors The Shop Around the Corner (as "In the Good Old Summertime" and "You've Got Mail") Willard Here Comes Mr. Jordan (as "Heaven Can Wait") Dawn of the Dead Yours, Mine and Ours

"DRoyight et mon Dieu..." (example of treppenwitz, that...)

Maybe it's time to consider abolishing copyright protections just so that studios can't hold onto and "reinvent" popular and well-liked movies/TV series every few years when they get short of cash. This is getting ridiculous.

Just some that I'd like to throw out: Elvis Presley (Fer chrissakes, in all his movies, he basically played himself, who was overrated in real life) Hayden Christensen (He only gets cool points for being Darth Vader) Chris Farley (another one-note wonder) Pamela Anderson (Note to Pam: Your best assets aren't your acting chops) Almost any athlete, musician or pro-wrestler. BTW: Shatner's not a bad actor. He's just been given lightweight roles (usually) since Star Trek. He actually had some very meaty roles early in his career in "The Brothers Karamazov" opposite Yul Brenner and "Judgement at Nuremburg" with Spencer Tracy, Burt Lancaster, Marlene Deitrich and, oddly enough Werner Klemperer.

My response is who the @#* IS Michael Bradley?

Actually, I'm thinking probably no later than '79, since (as I mentioned) a handful of very late Lupin III part two eps were broadcast in '79 and '80 in Stereo.

That's kind of interesting...the way I'd heard it was that they had had some test screenings with the more somber "Spock dies. Period." ending, and that when they saw the intense fan reaction to the testers (people were apparently doubled over with grief leaving the test screenings), they hurriedly went back and reshot parts of the sequence to include the mind-meld with the arrangement being that if they went back and did part 3, Nimoy'd get to helm it as a means of luring him back.

I think that both Mari and Nimoy enjoyed their roles (and certainly didn't mind being paid for it) but that it was the fans and the incessant association with the roles that did it for them. Nimoy, IMHO, became the host of the "UFO, conspiracy, bizarre illogical s#!7" show "In Search Of" expressly to distance himself from Spock. (BTW, Shatner was classically trained -- got his start as an understudy to Christopher Plummer in the Royal Shakespeare Theatre -- while Nimoy was a character actor who got his start in B-movie serials like "Radar Men from the Moon" and TV shows like "Perry Mason." I don't think he was classically trained hough.) IIRC, Nimoy asked for a pile of money for ST1, a great death scene for ST2 and the director's chair for ST3. A funny thing happened on the way to ST4, though -- he began to like the character of Spock. Even named his early '90s autobiography "I AM Spock," a reference to another he had written in the late '70s titled "I'm Not Spock." The same thing with Mari, as well. She seems to have liked the experience of Macross (must have at least a little, else she wouldn't have jumpped at the chance to join ADV's dub cast) but was tired of being seen as NOTHING but Lynn Minmay. Someone who has a successful singing career with many acclaimed albums under her belt -- even to the point of being asked to score an old silent film, and yet is still seen only as the actress from a television show she did 20-some-odd years ago? It'd make anyone a little resentful. Shatner doesn't seem to care, on the other hand. He's almost like Adam West (Batman) and Bill Boyd (Hopalong Cassidy) in embracing the characters he's played -- although, thankfully he refrains from ever putting the old gold velour shirt on. He seems to be having a blast playing Denny Crane, and how many 70-something actors get a chance to thoroughly re-invent their careers with such a meaty role that doesn't include being a grandpa?

Panon, you may be thinking of the Trash situation, where Tokyopop got approval from HG and BW quashed it due to minor licensing issues (such as BW had the license, HG didn't.)

Hey dude, Michael Moore called, he wants his retartedness back. 340880[/snapback] Said he'd come and get it himself, buyt he's stuck in the bath tub again. 340915[/snapback] LOL!

Hate to disillusion you though, but "plain old crappy mono" was pretty much what most anime were broadcast in at that point. Stereo was reserved, even here in the US, for the big shows. If you're old enough to remember back that far, in the '80s on the big sitcoms and dramas, you might recall the nets had that little graphic annoucing the show was in stereo because it was a selling point. Lupin III (1977) had a total of nine or so episodes out of roughly 150 (IIRC) in stereo. the rest were in mono. IIRC, even Macross was a mono show. And NO show of '80s vintage would have been broadcast in 5.1 Surround, that was a late '90s-21st Century innovation. They also replace all of the music with that gawdawful Ulpio Minucci score, which is a crime against humanity. Now, granted, the Southern Cross score was the weakest of the three shows' scores, but it was still better than the Robotech music. Don't worry about it. Spend more time here, and you'll find we're all passed masters at ruffling each other's feathers. BTW, welcome to MW.

Where I work, the company installed iTunes on all the computers, so it gives us a not bad selection of radio channels. I've really gotten into the OTR (old-time radio show) channels and Japan-a Radio (which plays Jpop and anime music 24/7).

Let's not get too full of ourselves, lest our head competes with A1's in size :P

Except, "Mylene" isn't Chinese, AFAIK...