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Don't mean to sound like a broken record. But sometimes, you can't help but come back to the classics. There are times when everything just seems to fall into place: the proportions, the stance from just about any angle, whatever it may be; but the x-wing just stays right up there near the top for me. Sure, it's got practically NO rearward vision. But it's like the Spitfire of Space--it just looks the part. You can tell it's a thoroughbred, and it's meant to be a scrapper.

Other than campaigning a team for Ford in the original T/A series, I don't think Shelby had much to do with developing the Boss Mustangs(?) I think his plate was full between the racing programs for that, the GT40s, and of course the Cobras; not to mention building, marketing and sales for the Mustangs licensed under his own name. ed: IIRC, I think the Boss--and eventually the Mach I's--were Ford's way of bringing their performance programs more in-house and directly under their control. They in essence cannibalized sales from the Shelby models, and can be partly attributed to the (temporary) end of the association after the '70 model year.

One way I thought the BSG remake fell short of the original was in the design of the military ships. This advanced, spacefaring culture has a military with what, basically 1 capital ship design, 2 fighter designs, and 1 support vessel design? The Raptor was a pretty lame "successor" to the original Shuttle; while it (Shuttle) was not sexy, it was more practical and believable--in essence a big space-going truck, with a boxy design to accomodate people, supplies, whatever needs hauling. The Raptor, on the other hand, is less convincing as a support vessel; shouldn't have tried to make it a jack-of-all-trades (didn't they use it for elec warfare too?). It's like going from a deuce and a half, to a PT cruiser.

Now THAT was a disappointing film. Deserves a mention in the "worst sci-fi film ever" thread, too. Truly some of the most wretchedly ugly spaceship designs ever to grace a screen, big or small.

Never liked the Hammerhead from Space: A&B though. Showing them parked them next to F/A-18s on the tarmac early on in the series only made them look even more fake and toy-like. All I could think when I saw them was: okay, they're just engines and a cockpit--where the hell are the fuel, weapons, munitions, avionics and such gonna go? Coincidentally, hindsight and logical thinking apply the same obstacles to suspension-of-disbelief for the orig Colonial Vipers---but not nearly as much so. I suppose it's something that has to be conceded to the time/budget/material constraints placed on TV production.

I was wondering when the Cygnus would make an appearance. whether you like or hate the movie, it's a pretty recognizable and memorable design. Disappointing, though? I don't think it was so bad, for what amouts to a childrens' movie--it is a Disney movie, after all.

Okay, I didn't want to have to resort to such drastic measures. But you all leave me no choice (actually, more like: OMG--I can't believe I didn't remember this one sooner!) but to give this thread the coup de gras http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0w3FcVe9gc 2:25 - 2:45 = LOLOL!

No, wait--those were boobs! Good God, they even gave them nipples! Still, didn't have a thing on Sybil's--er, attributes. Let's face it. They don't do sexpots in movies like they used to. Nowadays the lack of restraint or decorum borders on vulgarity; nothing left up to the imagination. To a 10 or 12 year old boy, a woman's cleavage is like Neverland, or Far Far Away--it's the stuff of magic and wonder! Damned if you'd know what to do with them, but you can't wait until you grow up and figure it out!

Ha, he just didn't want to readily admit to remembering such bad cinema. and I always thought those were supposed to be boobs on that ship--I never got as far or complex as any "uterine" reference. LOL, I guess my youthful mind had not yet reached a sufficient level of perversion for all that, back in the day. ed: that movie's one redeeming quality was Sybil Danning in Space.

A little OT, but not worth an entire new thread... I have no clue as to what they're saying, but. Surprisingly, this is kinda awesome. http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81083960/ Oh sure, the helicopter hovering in front of the hero, and the guy jumping from the jeep were grade-A cheese. but the actual jeep crash into the helicopter was actually very well done. Wonder how they did that? Perhaps the 'copter was suspended from a high crane to keep it in place for the jeep to be jumped into, with cables/ramps/etc edited out? ed: oh yeah; after a re-watch, judging from the droop of the rotors, that's the most likely scenario for setting up that stunt. also note the absence of tail rotor. hmm, wonder how they prevented torque rotation?

Feh. 4-door coupe. Rubbish. Like the Chiken Little fable though--if you repeat it enough times, the sheeple will accept it en masse. Damn Mazda6, with a stretched nose, is what that is. Don't get me wrong--the nose job was a success; not a bad looking car, in spite of the "squinting" fascia.

Oh yeah, it's like the vast majority of the season 1 Starblazers/Yamato designs get an automatic "in" when it comes to a favorites/best list. Andromeda, Yamato and the like are a cool, romanticized homage to the early 20th cent era when "battlewagons" still reigned supreme, and the carrier had not yet ascended...

Yes, this would definitely give the pilot a great deal more info than the traditional HUD of old... Presumably, there are small "projectors" across the top of the console? (that's what I always figured)

Yup, I guess designs for TV/movies are more readily accepted by the audiences when they rely on "traditional" frames of reference, i.e. features like a distinct nose, tail, "wings" or control surfaces, and a distinguishable cockpit (ideally that affords the audience an identifiable view of the hero/villian at the controls). I like designs like the Morningstar it's uncanny how a video game design from the early 90's bears such strong resemblance to the real-world Mig 1.44 technology testbed of the mid-late 90's...

Trump card. Hah! But I suppose sentimentality keeps me coming back to the sprite-based designs from the Wing Commander games. They had much more character than the later polygon based vers. The stillborn WC: Pioneer fan-project showed they would have translated well to more modern rendering, as well. Old-school Colonial Viper. Yeah, baby. I'm surprised no eccentric fans have ever tried to build a full-scale replica. Apparently, the blueprints are readily available... And of course, Cosmo Tiger and Black Tiger...

okay, I went back and actually played that clip of Turkish Star Trek.... I ain't got the words. To describe. Just. How. AWFUL! THAT! WAS! Hell, the thread could have stopped right then and there with that one. WINNER! Got dayum, that was terrible! *captain exits 'elevator' (ya, right ) and goes to chair* That has to have been the most undignified and unmanly walk I've ever seen from a TV/movie commander, EVER. I wouldn't follow that guy to the f'ing ship's cafeteria, much less into the unknown/battle/wherever-the-fu*k-our-mission-says-we're-supposed-to-go. ed: hey, wait a minute! is that the same guy that was karate-chopping monsters in half in Turkish Star Wars?!

So, what does De Macross translate into in Canadian, eh?

Holy shite, they're really calling this thing De Macross?!? LOL, I thought those looked like table legs or something in the background. 's a godda*n toy! Note to startup supercar manufacturers: If you want people to take your proposition for a new exotic seriously, you might want to take your initial PR photos someplace OTHER than in the kitchen floor! Okay--now somebody has GOT to do a 'chop, with "001" stripes, a black/yellow crest (on the hood maybe?), and skulls-and-bones. Let the Photoshopping begin!!

I second that. LOL, that looks fun-kay! In my younger, more irresponsible days, I'm sure I would have said this is the kind of thing to get high and watch on a Saturday a'noon...

Yup, Ford is pretty much capitalizing on brand recognition, as the original Boss 302's are considered by many the "purest" and most successful of the high-perf Mustangs. The Bud Moore Trans Am cars are perhaps the most iconic and recognizable of the breed, in their familiar "school bus yellow" paint schemes. The most successful racing Mustang ever was an original Boss T/A car driven down under by Aussie racer Allan Moffat...101 wins out of 151 starts over 5 or so years.

There's a guy that was posting eps to youtube, "Toyman Productions," that was serializing both the 1897 and Orson Wells vers, using stop motion and (what else) toys. They're actually quite entertaining. It's always cool to see ingenuity working around a shoestring budget. And, given the constraints of the technology being used, he's still come closest of all to Wells' vision of the Martian heat ray in action, and what the walkers most probably looked like. It's neat to try to figure out what bits and pieces are used to fabricate the props for stuff like this. LOL, I think the top half of a "Leggs" container forms the hood for one of the walker designs! I remember as a kid, having to go into the store to get them for me mum on Sundays before church...

the visual effects for the Zorlon? aliens were impressive, but otherwise that movie blew chunks. Ah yes, 80's cheese at it's best.

Oh, hell yeah. Now I know I have GOT to get this DVD! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_rAfxtF8d4&feature=related This is one you possibly have to be high to watch properly, though...

Has anyone seen the Pendragon ver. of War of the Worlds? I've heard this film takes bad to epic proportions, and from the trailer I've seen on youtube, I'm apt to believe it. It appears to have a budget rivaling that of a rural-high-school play [honest to God, some of the actors are wearing what look like taped-on moustaches!]. I'm no masochist by any means; so I don't know why I've something of an urge to go out and find this on DVD, purchase large quantities of alcohol and attempt to watch it... Also, the Asylum ver of the same movie is truly, truly a front runner for this award--saw a snippet on SciFi channel, and I just couldn't endure. And I've always considered myself something of a B-movie connoisseur. I'd actually like to see a rendition faithful to Wells' original telling, truth be told. The Martian heat ray is much more terrifying in its original concept; but I can see how it would be difficult to translate to film.

BUUUUUUT! On a happier note... ROFL! That's fuggin neat!