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How did it not work? If you check the thread to which you are referring, I never said anything else! Of course, you leave out the part where you PMed me and continued to press your point. Everyone can have opinions. . . but if your opinion is crazy, ill-informed, or illogical, chances are I will express my opinion about your opinion. If you can't handle it, maybe discussion forums aren't for you. H I think the problem is that you express your opinion until everyone else gives up on theirs. I mean I'm surprised I haven't seen you put up a chart. C'mon man. Lighten up. We got you were saying the first time you said it. Twice! Seriously Hurin. You debate against people as if your life depended on it. Quoting every segment of mine and other people's whole post is just sick. And about this... Look at the response you're getting and see if maybe you're the one that should move on to a different forum. Just chill dude. You win, you're smart, and you're an outright d1ckhead. Get a girlfriend.

What about the Hong Kong release of Mac0, they have subs don't they?? They are a region compatable with the US. No offense to anybody in HK, but a lot of their subtitled crap sucks. I bought several and it's really fortunate if you find a couple of them comprehensible. To stay on topic, I think if Macross plus was able to make it through to the US via Manga, I think given the popularity of Macross 0, we'll see it a couple of years down. Not anytime soon though. Oh and, HG BLOWS!

If it's in the realm of possibility, then it's possible. We've all seen MANY slim possiblities turn into realities in life so... I agree however, that the chances are slim (which I might add, is speculation as well until Yamato SAYS they won't make more). Not because Yamato will "keep it's word" as you so put it, but because Yamato has so much original main stream stuff to produce before they divert their resources to another custom. I also think that because it's a custom valk, if they do make another one, it'll be a different model (maybe even a whole new paint scheme all together). Getting back to the "keep it's word" phrase you mentioned however, I don't remember Yamato promising both sides of this arguement anything. For all we know, your assumptions may be more vulnerable than Hirohawa's. Yamato really (even in the long term) does not have much to lose if they were to re-issue the Low Vis. It's not like the people who bought the first low vis will cold turkey Yamato because of it. Heck, they might just buy more of em. Anyway, the main point is, I think both sides are about level and neutralize one another. AND ultimately, Yamato does it's own shi-et anyway... (which sadly, I'm used to now)

Do not trust to hope... It has forsaken these lands... Shi-et... Oh well then.

Daaayyaammmn Hurin... Talk about LONG... But yeah, anyway, here's my two cents: I honestly think it can swing in either direction. In response to Hurin's stance, Yamato IS a business-minded corporation and I myself, dropped all perceptions of them as a company that's anything (much) more than that. If the demand is high enough and enough people in the Land of the Rising Sun start beckoning, hey,... a "limited edition" isn't as limited as it originally was INTENDED to be. Companies have many strategies to go around "Limited Editions" and I don't think the low vis is as untouchable as you so passionately assume it to be. In response to Hirohawa's stance, Don't hold your breath (I can assume you aren't). NO F'ing DUH... C'mon now... Given it's present demand, and taking into consideration the observations I've made since it's debut, the Low Vis is considerably limited in production than the other 1/48's. The notorious demand it has now came AFTER people like you and I assumed it'd be around a while long enough for us to "think about it". I personally lost my chance because of this assumption and instead opting to wait until my wallet recovered from my 1/60 shopping spree. Oh well. I think our best chance at a low vis is with another valk model. 1S or 1J... ORRR.... if the HGUSA force field is lifted and everything is re-released here. Here's to HOPE~

Everything from the Max 1A and on has the improvements. There are minor changes after the Max such as easier opening front landing gears and the seats on the reissues have the curved pilot seat headrest. Cool. Not a reason in sight for me to resist now... sigh... 1/48 here I come.

I got one. It takes a bit of "breaking into" but once you figure out the way the toy is balanced, it get's pretty easy to transform. Contrary to what I've read here I think the slight loose-ness of the hips makes it easier for me to make adjustments. Again, you gotta get very familiar with how the thing is balanced. Great valk. IMHO it's superior to the Yf 19 in all modes with the exception of the battroid mode. Ya got the VF 11B FP's? That's one sweet yammie. The best of the Mac + series IMHO.

I'm also thinking of buying one myself and enter into the 1/48 line... I was under the impression that it featured upgrades that eliminated the various problems the first 1/48's had, no? Is the New VF-1J, low vis and the focker VF-1S the only ones with the improvements?

I'd personally get a VF -1S Hikaru. I guess because it's not available in other scales by YAMATO. I'm about yay(_) close to buying one myself. It'd also be my first 1/48. I've seen them personally and what worries me most is the possibility that I might wreak further havoc on my bank account and buy the whole 1/48 line all because of the hypnotic powers they possess. sigh.... what to do....

Though I agree that drawing comparisons with SW, ST & LOTR is stretching efforts in finding common comparable grounds, what's with all this "fanboy" bashing? As far as I'm concerned everyone in here in MW is a Fan or a.k.a. SCI-FI geek (in various degrees). The effort guys like you make in attempt to degrade others by calling them "fanboys" is simply juvenile.

Congrats on your first Yamato! I suggest you get the Super Max&Millia VF-1J's in BBTS before they run out. only $54 bucks! (though this has nothing to do with what you were asking, just thought I might mention)

Like the SV-51? Eh... the SV-51 is not as funky as the Gundam zero angel wings. I mean Gundam zero in it's DESIGN itself is aiite, but FEATHERY wings on a giant robot? That's emphasizing the title a teeny bit TOO MUCH. I hope with all sincerity that Macross 7 is as funky as it gets.

True to some extent. But I think I'll emphasize again that the size difference between the VF 1 & the VF 0 is not of "holy $hit!" proportions. I think technology now and technology in the Macross timeline is more than sufficient enough to compensate (in thrust) for the size difference between the two. Also, if you look at the Macross Plus generation fighters, they increased in size not decreased. For the Smaller size = Better storage on ships explanation, it's true but upon closer examination it also limits the individual valk's capacity to arm itself as well. Smaller size means less missiles. Also if you look at the current developmental progression of jets in the real world, everything is stored internally. Again, bringing in Mac +, both the yf 19 and yf 21 carry their missiles internally. Both valks are also larger in size. Given that you CANT pressure pack missiles, or manufacture them IN THE VALK itself, youre gonna need more space. Lastly, Mass and Size should not be confused with weight. It's definitely possible for a larger valk to weigh less than a smaller one. And even though it is heavier, I think designers always compensate the added weight with added thrust to make it speed-wise superior to it's predecessor. In all I think, SK could of done all of us continuity geeks a favor by making the VF-0 closer in design to the VF-1 than it is. Maybe making it even smaller than the VF 1. I dunno~ anyway, I think we're stressing this WAY too much.

Gundam Wing Zero's wings is an UPGRADE No? Anyway, Alternate universes/timelines? I dunno about that. Let's not get too out of hand. The last thing I want is for Macross to get all magical (excessive cheesy SCIFI) on me like Gundam. I think part of the appeal of Macross is it's generally continual, all related universe. I'd really hate to see it get too fruity like Gundam has gotten with some of it's ova's (though 08th MS team was cool). What makes us macross fans have the upperhand to gundam is that we have a more believable and tighter storyline. I'd seriously start crying if I started seeing Valks with angel wings and a goofy plot explaining why it's practical. Good God NO.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion just as everybody is entitled to disagree with one. Anyway, did Yamato EVER say they stopped making collectors items? Nope. Did yamato ever say that the 1/100's is the ONLY scale they'll ever make for Mac 0? Nope again. I agree with you guys on the 1/100 scale and the all pvc move. But you guys talk as if that's all that they'll ever make for Mac 0. Mac 0 is a brand spanking new series folks, I think it warrants just a teeny bit of patience. What I do think is testing my patience is the YF 19 FP. <_< Anyway, the more I look at it, I think yamato is striving for the following analogy: Yamato:Macross::Bandai:Gundam Plain and simple. Those of you who formed allegiances to a specific scale, myself included, lets stop talking like we're so different (also as if one is better than the other), we're all Macross collectors, whatever the scale.

I dunno about this. Smaller target: It's not exactly like shooting a target 300 meters away then at 500 yards away with a rifle. The difference in size between the VF-1 and the VF-0 would not benefit (at least notably) their pilots from evading incoming bogies and projectiles. However, differences in speed and stealth are. Better acceleration: C'mon... This is really false. The biggest factor that results in better acceleration is thrust. Again, we're not comparing a bullet to a F 22 (although theyre almost comparable). The SIZE difference between the VF-0 and the VF-1 hardly contributes to the acceleration. Given the same amount of THRUST, it's even likely that the VF-0 would fly faster because of it's superior aerodynamics. Maneuverability: Like you said, theres so many factors to this. But as an example with real world jets, a higher end Sukhoi maneuvers better than a much smaller F/A-18. So yeah, I think the only logical explanation is the one SK gave about the boarding on enemy ships. And to simply be realistic, the VF-1 was designed 20 years ago. Though it's understandable that people want continuity between the vf-1 and vf-0, I think we have to be a little more flexible rather than trying to fit a square block into a circular hole.

I'm a firm believer that no design is ever perfect. That being said, I'm still in accord with the vast majority of you guys in that the VF-1 should not be altered. As for Macross Zero, I kinda dont want to see the VF 1 in it. I do... but then I don't. However, since it is likely that it will make an appearance, I think the VF-1 design is flexible enough to refine but not drastically change. A bracketed curve here and there. Shoulder pads a bit more sleak. Just hope it's nothing drastic. The VF-1 is in good hands... I dont think we should worry too much.

It probably would. If you look at everything imported VS domestic version, it always ended up cheaper. If you really sit down and think about the price, it's really no joke. $180 for a 1/48 with fastpacks. That's the price of a PS2. As much as I LOVE Macross. It's a bit steep... The day Macross breaks the HGUSA barrier is the day of great jubilation for us state-side collectors.

I think Draykov was right to mention price. A gi joe Tomcat is no where in the same vicinity in price as a 1/48 VF-1. The size isn't the issue alone, it's the size/quality:price ratio that's the issue. If the 1/48 VF-1's were as cheap as GI Joe tomcats, I think there's no question that they'd sell a TON more...

Nice. Although I'm not quite sure if all 1/48 people are affluent enough to buy "tons of everything else in 1/48". Let us 1/60 and 1/48 people stop arguing and respect each other. Both of us are "Die hards". No one can tell me otherwise... I spent 1000's of dollars on this stuff. I just wish yamato was more consistent with their scales. Eliminating the 1/60 scale is almost a slap in the face for us 1/60 collectors. Yamato, Stop bunny hopping from scale to scale.

Ewilen you sound like a MW professor. Nice stats. I, too am a little iffy about the 1/100 line. Whether or not I buy it really depends heavily on what the quality:price ratio is. I totally understand Dampiel's arguement that consistency is important to a collector when it comes to scale. Which is why I initially cringed at the idea that Yamato was releasing yet another scale. But I think there has to be an equilibrium at some point between practicality and size. A Valk reaching in lengths of 40 cm or 15 1/2 inches I think, really leans over the ledge both in price and size. Is it possible? Sure. But personally, in that size the price to pay (both monetarily and size) starts to surpass the "cool factor". I think it's more important that we stress accuracy of the scales already introduced. To me, the ability to squeeze detail and quality into a smaller package is more impressive than creating a huge valk. Of course, it can't be TOO small... but regardless, I want to see yamato up the ante in quality while lowering price. If they can do it with the New 1/100's, and steadily increase the quality of the 1/72, 1/60 lines, I'll be happy.

Amen Aegis. Seriously. If yamato continues to make 1/48 it's MAIN line I really don't think a lot of us would be able to keep up (both in shelf size and price). 1/48's are cool no doubt, but for some of yous, it's almost getting fanatical.

Amen Aegis. Seriously. If yamato continues to make 1/48 it's MAIN line I really don't think a lot of us would be able to keep up (both in shelf size and price). 1/48's are cool no doubt, but for some of yous, it's almost getting fanatical.

Although the option will be nice, I don't think we're really missing out on anything. Yamato is tight lipped anyway, and whatever little info we get, Graham relays so... No for me. Atleast not until yamato can break through the HGUSA barrier. And as for the instructions... cmon guys... It's not rocket science... If you're really serious about the hobby, figuring things out is part of the appeal. Pictures speak a 1000 words.

I would LIKE a 1/60... but I guess the Mac 0 series will follow the Mac + series with the 1/72. Hey, all good for me. Bring Em On.